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March 18, 2025: Begin your day with the wonder of the presence of God--another day in which to carry out His wishes with everything that is within you. What a mighty God we serve! What opportunities before you to exhibit His love and mercy and to share His unfathomable bounty of love! John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
@DarthVol1

Your Pirates got a shot at playoffs this season? N.L. Central is up for grabs with the Brewers losing their best players either through FA or via trade. I believe it's a race between Cubs, Reds and Pirates if you guys can hit. The pitching should be top notch...
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Baseball is more fun with a good Cubbies team.
 
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SoilVol said:
"Here’s what ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler shared on the latest episode of The Dan Patrick Show about what he’s hearing on #CamWard & the #Titans

“From what I've gathered, Tennessee seems pretty comfortable with Cam Ward. Like there's some momentum there with other teams I've talked to league-wide that they feel like they're just going to sit there and take Ward. I know the interviews with Ward have gone well. They feel comfortable with the mistakes he’s made on the field. They feel like he's done a good job of explaining those mistakes & he can be coached and correct them, & he's got the obvious upside on top of that."

This is the EXACT SAME THING they said about drafting Will Levis! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣
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I mean....my question is, what mistakes has Cam Ward made on the field?

Only 6 games in his college career at the P4 level (3 years) did he throw under 60%
Never threw more than 2 INTs in a single game while playing in 38
Only 7 games did he not throw for at least 200 yards


Levis had an attempt in a total of 32 games in his 4 years at the P4 level

10 times he failed to hit 60%
Only 13 times did he throw for at least 200 yards
Threw more than 2 INTs in 2 games


One guy had a career full of mistakes on the field and the other is Cam Ward.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
@DarthVol1

Your Pirates got a shot at playoffs this season? N.L. Central is up for grabs with the Brewers losing their best players either through FA or via trade. I believe it's a race between Cubs, Reds and Pirates if you guys can hit. The pitching should be top notch...
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If they had gotten just a single upgraded bat for either 1st or LF, then I would think so. But their idea of an upgrade was Tommy Pham, who has batted .125 in spring training. They have a lot of 2 to 1 and 3 to 2 losses ahead. I am hoping they clean house after they fail again. It is 6th year of current regime. Just sad too. Best window of opportunity they have had in a decade and the cheap owner will piss it away.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Only Cam Ward has actually been an elite QB?

The Will Levis comparisons make zero sense. Because he flipped the ball a couple times?

Will Levis could barely complete a pass against CHATTANOOGA.
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Cam Ward is a physically gifted player with some bad mistakes on film.

By VN logic that makes him and all other 1st round QBs not named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck equivalent to Will Levis.

In my personal opinion, I think the conversation is too centered around his poor decision making at times, and we're not talking about stretches he has had with just poor accuracy. That's more of a concern to me.

Cant really judge it without knowing what kind of offers they could get for that pick. I think you take Cam Ward all day before you use the number one overall pick on Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. But in a perfect world we would taken one of the many stop gap QBs and traded back.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Cam Ward is a physically gifted player with some bad mistakes on film.

By VN logic that makes him and all other 1st round QBs not named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck equivalent to Will Levis.

In my personal opinion, I think the conversation is too centered around his poor decision making at times, and we're not talking about stretches he has had with just poor accuracy. That's more of a concern to me.

Cant really judge it without knowing what kind of offers they could get for that pick. I think you take Cam Ward all day before you use the number one overall pick on Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. But in a perfect world we would taken one of the many stop gap QBs and traded back.
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Our. My issue with Titans is continued snowball of bad decisions. Anyone who would draft Will Levis as a starter doesnt know football. They've had massive issues at WR, CB, OL etc. And they're slow.

I know its important to get FA help, but, their philosophy if drafting a top QB and cosching them is wasting picks, and time. Get the pieces in place. Get a horse at RB, get the OL solidified. Upgrade speed at WR. Then find your QB and pay them.

At least that's what id do. You've got a great product, stadium, and area.
 
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DarthVol1 said:
If they had gotten just a single upgraded bat for either 1st or LF, then I would think so. But their idea of an upgrade was Tommy Pham, who has batted .125 in spring training. They have a lot of 2 to 1 and 3 to 2 losses ahead. I am hoping they clean house after they fail again. It is 6th year of current regime. Just sad too. Best window of opportunity they have had in a decade and the cheap owner will piss it away.
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Especially when you have team control over that dynamic pitching staff for 3 or 4 more years together. Spending a dollar on a power hitter is worth the squeeze...
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I think Cam Ward can become a solid to good NFL QB...my biggest gripe is just that I don't think he's #1 overall talent. (I don't think any of the QBs are)

At best Cam Ward is Russell Wilson who went in the 3rd round.
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A real #1 overall QB is rare, imo. Maybe every 3-4 years, maybe longer.

Cam Ward drives a squatted Toyota Tundra. . .
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
A real #1 overall QB is rare, imo. Maybe every 3-4 years, maybe longer.

Cam Ward drives a squatted Toyota Tundra. . .
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Agreed.

2024 - Jayden Daniels (but still TBD, one year doesn't prove it imo) - went 2nd
2023 - CJ Stroud (still TBD, great first year, came down to earth this past season) - went 2nd
2022 - no one
2021 - Trevor Lawrence
2020 - Joe Burrow (Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurts pretty deep QB class)
2019 - Kyler Murray
2018 - Baker Mayfield (Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson)
2017 - Mitchell Trubisky - went 2nd (Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson
2016 - Jared Goff (Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott)
2015 - Jameis Winston (Marcus Mariota)


So really imo the last 10 years there's been a few. But a few you could argue weren't really ready to be #1 and needed time to develop.

Burrow & Mahomes both hit the ground running in their first years starting though. Most the rest it was a year or two before they hit their stride
 
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