Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Devo182 said:
12% and I would be flipping the table over šŸ˜…šŸ¤£

This is a really big jump promotion. Major corporate exposure (we are a MNC corporation to give an idea of our size). I also think they can save on my replacement, as I'm on the higher end of my current role range I believe. This will be a part of my negotiation of course.

From what I'm hearing, internal candidates tend to get screwed over in promotions and their new salary. I'm going to have to bring a strong local market argument.

And if they want to deeply lowball me, I also know plenty of jobs elsewhere in my current role and area that pay just a bit less than this new position would offer. But I tend to be a loyal employee and would prefer to grow in a new role. But I'm not going to go in scared or take the job with a low offer either. I'll walk if that's how I'm valued by them. Because I know I can do better than the previous person. Even she said that. But I hope it doesn't come to that.
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I didnā€™t know you were talking about that big of a vertical jump you big-timer! Hope you get it!

Now you have really gotten me curious. I also work for a MNC; moved to DC suburbs for it. I have worked on government contracts for almost a decade and negotiate rates often. I have never seen anything over 20% given and that was due to a promotion. If you donā€™t mind keep us posted.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Pau was arguably better than Kobe in 2009-10 and his career numbers arenā€™t that far off Kobe in two fewer season.
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Are you intentionally lying or just completely uninformed? Here are the actual numbers behind your fallacious claims.

2009-10 Regular Season
Kobe: 27.0 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 5.0 APG (3rd in MVP voting, 1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-Defense)
Pau: 18.3 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 3.4 APG (3rd team All-NBA)


2009-10 Playoffs
Kobe: 29.2 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 5.5 APG (Finals MVP)
Pau: 19.6 PPG, 11.1 RPG, 3.5 APG

Career Totals
Kobe: 33,643 points, 7,047 rebounds, 6,306 assists
Pau: 20,894 points, 11,305 rebounds, 3,925 assists

Pau Gasol was not as good as Kobe at any point in his career and his career is nowhere close to Kobe. You must have misspoke cause this is maybe the most insane take I've ever heard someone make.
 
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Funny story about Skullbone. I was 16-17 years old, so around 74-75 my dad, my bother and I were deer hunting in the area. We walked out of the woods and could see the old country store so we walked in got a sandwich and something to drink. Leaned our deer rifles against the wall. Nobody noticed or said anything except ā€œseen anythingā€ different times, different world.
 
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Devo182 said:
Sorry all for all of the career talk, but a quick follow-up question for the moran braintrust:

Assuming there's some version of an interview/sitdown - how does that go? I'd assume it's something smelling like an interview, but far less formal and just...different. For those with experience, please share.
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I have seen it go both ways depending on the company culture and how well interviewers know the internal candidates. You'll have a better feel for those two things than any of us.

Regardless of the form of the interview, the substance will be about showing your skills (technical, managerial, leadership, personality) translate from here (present job) to there (promo job). Even if it's informal, that's what they want to take from it.
 
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SoilVol said:
Recent events made me realize Tennessee basketball's issues this season can be blamed on Biden's DEI initiatives. Had to give up Knecht for Lanier.


(Disclaimer: I make this joke at risk of it being taken too politically and making too much light of recent serious events. Everyone, regardless of political flavor, should at least chuckle at that I'd think... I thought it was decently clever.)
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I am not overly political but I did not find this funny. Lanier is playing his ass off. He just isnā€™t shooting well the last couple games. And not being DK is something almost every player can be guilty of
 
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SCvol333 said:
I am not overly political but I did not find this funny. Lanier is playing his ass off. He just isnā€™t shooting well the last couple games. And not being DK is something almost every player can be guilty of
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This is fair. It wasn't supposed to be overly critical of Lanier. Lanier is a baller and he's gonna make big plays for us the rest of this season. I believe it.

It was just a "blame everything on DEI" joke
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Are you intentionally lying or just completely uninformed? Here are the actual numbers behind your fallacious claims.

2009-10 Regular Season
Kobe: 27.0 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 5.0 APG (3rd in MVP voting, 1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-Defense)
Pau: 18.3 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 3.4 APG (3rd team All-NBA)


2009-10 Playoffs
Kobe: 29.2 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 5.5 APG (Finals MVP)
Pau: 19.6 PPG, 11.1 RPG, 3.5 APG

Career Totals
Kobe: 33,643 points, 7,047 rebounds, 6,306 assists
Pau: 20,894 points, 11,305 rebounds, 3,925 assists

Pau Gasol was not as good as Kobe at any point in his career and his career is nowhere close to Kobe. You must have misspoke cause this is maybe the most insane take I've ever heard someone make.
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There are other stats that exist. PER, win share, BPM. Several more. Pau shows up very well.

But you stick with the eye test.
 
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Devo182 said:
Sorry all for all of the career talk, but a quick follow-up question for the moran braintrust:

Assuming there's some version of an interview/sitdown - how does that go? I'd assume it's something smelling like an interview, but far less formal and just...different. For those with experience, please share.
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IMO Always treat it like an external interview. Every hiring manager is different but taking one too casually is not a great look. No need to over think it, but I'd dress appropriately too. When you make the event important it shows to the interviewer. All of this is subjective, but I've never heard negative feedback on a guy being over prepared. I have heard the alternative.

Prep for star format questions if you never have done those. They are more common now and trip some people up. Have real world scenarios mind of how you've exuded the skills you believe they are looking for.

One org I worked at if we passed on an internal candidate we still gave them a declination meeting with feedback on what to work on or the reason we went in another direction. That was actually pretty cool, but not many places do.
 
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volinexile17 said:
There are other stats that exist. PER, win share, BPM. Several more. Pau shows up very well.

But you stick with the eye test.
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When Player A averages 10 more points per game in the playoffs than Player B there is no debate about who had the better playoff run. Efficiency metrics are only valuable when the raw totals are comparable. But when one player has so much more volume than another then bringing up silly efficiency metrics makes no sense. This is like claiming DeAndre Jordan is a better scorer than Shaq because he has a higher FG%. It's a preposterous claim on its face.

Try telling any NBA player who played the Lakers in 2009-10 that Pau Gasol was better than Kobe. They would simply laugh at you. At least keep the arguments reasonable if you want to be taken seriously.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
When Player A averages 10 more points per game in the playoffs than Player B there is no debate about who had the better playoff run. Efficiency metrics are only valuable when the raw totals are comparable. But when one player has so much more volume than another then bringing up silly efficiency metrics makes no sense. This is like claiming DeAndre Jordan is a better scorer than Shaq because he has a higher FG%. It's a preposterous claim on its face.

Try telling any NBA player who played the Lakers in 2009-10 that Pau Gasol was better than Kobe. They would simply laugh at you. At least keep the arguments reasonable if you want to be taken seriously.
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Kobe had the ball 30% more. Of course he had more volume. He was also a guard. That was my original point. Dude monopolized the ball.

No one cares.

Done talking about it in the football thread.
 
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