Recruiting Discussion

[JohnMcA60]

Fight! Fight!

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Lavar Batts, a '17 guard from Team CP3 (NC), has cut his list down to Oklahoma, Clemson, Florida St, Nebraska, Georgia, Butler & VCU.


2017 List:

#19 Nick Richards
#47 Jermaine Samuels
#83 Abu Kigab
#88 Alex Reese
#103 Victor Uyaelunmo
#125 Isaiah Stokes
#127 Tyler Polley
#149 Michael Durr
#164 Raiquan Gary
#185 Ibrahim Doumbia
#204 Brandon Huffman
#254 Victor Enoh
NR Chase Johnson

 

[cwbytruckers]

A few post back I told him the exact same thing. Junk post from this dude! Nothing & I mean nothing we posted was negativity towards the basketball program.

My post was not directed at you individually. Sorry. It was directed towards being negative. If I misread your post to be negative I apologize. Butsome have taken more shots at Coach Barnes lack of recruiting more than a redneck takes a shot at the toilet after a night of drinking. Their are several on here that do nothing but take cheap shots every chance they get.

 

[tonybologna]

My post was not directed at you individually. Sorry. It was directed towards being negative. If I misread your post to be negative I apologize. Butsome have taken more shots at Coach Barnes lack of recruiting more than a redneck takes a shot at the toilet after a night of drinking. Their are several on here that do nothing but take cheap shots every chance they get.

You quoted my post so how was it not directed towards me? Mistake? Fair enough. I've done that before myself. Quoted the wrong person. It's all good!

 

[cwbytruckers]

You quoted my post so how was it not directed towards me? Mistake? Fair enough. I've done that before myself. Quoted the wrong person. It's all good!

You guys were talking about Tennessee has a ceiling just because Pearl is gone. That's what I meant by quoting your post. They are upgrading our facilities. They are constantly looking to improve. Everyone knows we will never be Kentucky with their history. But the best facilities isn't far fetched. And winning the SEC is yet to be seen in the future. To say we can never be higher than 2nd is being negative is all I meant.

 

[BruinVol]

You guys were talking about Tennessee has a ceiling just because Pearl is gone. That's what I meant by quoting your post. They are upgrading our facilities. They are constantly looking to improve. Everyone knows we will never be Kentucky with their history. But the best facilities isn't far fetched. And winning the SEC is yet to be seen in the future. To say we can never be higher than 2nd is being negative is all I meant.

Dear gracious if this program achieves being 2nd in the SEC on a year in and year out basis we all should all play naked twister at noon on Saturday on the courthouse steps


To say this program is 2nd in the SEC is a hell of a POSITIVE/OPTIMISTIC view point

I dang sure hope we get there

 

[Dallasbowlin]

Dear gracious if this program achieves being 2nd in the SEC on a year in and year out basis we all should all play naked twister at noon on Saturday on the courthouse steps


To say this program is 2nd in the SEC is a hell of a POSITIVE/OPTIMISTIC view point

I dang sure hope we get there

We could be #1 and there's no way I'm playing naked twister with guys lol

 

[tonybologna]

Dear gracious if this program achieves being 2nd in the SEC on a year in and year out basis we all should all play naked twister at noon on Saturday on the courthouse steps


To say this program is 2nd in the SEC is a hell of a POSITIVE/OPTIMISTIC view point

I dang sure hope we get there

Amen & I agree!

 

[calban]

My post was not directed at you individually. Sorry. It was directed towards being negative. If I misread your post to be negative I apologize. Butsome have taken more shots at Coach Barnes lack of recruiting more than a redneck takes a shot at the toilet after a night of drinking. Their are several on here that do nothing but take cheap shots every chance they get.

Why is it a cheap shot to point out that for a touted HOF shoe in, Barnes has done virtually nothing that a first year coach coming from AAU or high school couldn't have done in recruiting.
Wake up and smell the reality.
He needs to really come thru with 2 quality big guys in the 17 class or he's looking at a possible 3 sub 500 seasons in a row. Don't think that even happened under Houston.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Houston lost the last game of his 4th season 101-40. Houston went 5-22 in his 5th season. I don't think any UT coach past, present, or future will ever approach those depths.

 

[Stoerner's Fumble]

Dear gracious if this program achieves being 2nd in the SEC on a year in and year out basis we all should all play naked twister at noon on Saturday on the courthouse steps


To say this program is 2nd in the SEC is a hell of a POSITIVE/OPTIMISTIC view point

I dang sure hope we get there

You are boring and consistently negative. Betcha don't get invited to parties often.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Wade Houston - 5 years, zero NCAATs.

Kevin O'Neill - 3 years (all losing records), zero NCAATs.

Buzz Peterson - 4 years, Zero NCAATs.

Cuonzo Martin - 3 years, ONE NCAAT.

Donnie Tyndall - 1 year, zero NCAATs.

Five of the previous seven UT coaches -16 years and one NCAAT. Both of the UT coaches that took TN to the other NCAATs post Devoe were fired. TN is lucky to have a proven winning coach working on extinguishing this dumpster fire. An unproven coach would fail miserably in this situation.

Barnes isn't the problem. Barnes can be the solution. The loud critics don't want to admit it, but the program was in shambles and it will take a while to get it on solid ground as it was in the Mears and early Devoe years.

Critics also don't want to admit that despite the final record in 2015-16, the team was well coached. There wasn't an opponent (with the possible exception of Nebraska - 11 point loss) that TN was unable to compete with. The longest losing streak of four games with two of the most lopsided losses happened shortly after the best player had a season ending injury. Even after that roster disruption (plus two post players quiting/giving up mid season) TN was able to regroup and take two of three in the SECT. That probably has happened in less than half of all SECTs.

If TN exceeds expectation in 2016-17, that would have the biggest impact on landing the prized recruits. So I hope that the over/under for losses is around 20.

Barnes, or any coach, must overcome the cluster **** that has been TN Basketball for over 25 years before the coveted big man is going to sign... they have too many less risky options. If the 7 freshman newcomers show that they can play then the odds of grabbing a couple of highly rated recruits get considerably better. 4 and 5 stars weren't/aren't going to dive into the flaming dumpster.

 

[cncchris33]

It's true. Look at that atmosphere vs Texas. The Kansas game. We were on top of the world, and were the best atmosphere in the pearl era. The last time I saw anything close to that, was the last years uk game.

Noooo, it's not. You can say it a hundred times, a thousand even, and it won't make it true. You just have a youthful, myopic (not to mention extremely biased) perspective.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

2019 and 2020 are the critical signing classes.

2017 has two spots and any players that sign have 7 players in the class one year ahead of them. Not necessarily a great situation... especially for any recruit that isn't interested in taking a redshirt.

2018 potentially only has a single spot.

2019 should be where the staff should focus and devote their time and efforts. Three spots if nothing changes.

2020 is when the 7 will be replaced. A lot will happen in the next four years. Redshirts, attrition, JUCOs, and transfers... so it's difficult to predict what the needs will look like.

So with only three spots to fill in the next two years, plus the coaches being at a huge disadvantage of not having been developing relationships with the prized recruits for years, it makes sense to put a higher priority on developing what they already have on the roster now... the 10 freshmen and sophomores. When the 7 freshmen are upper classmen the coaches can devote a lot more of their efforts to recruiting.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Wade Houston - 5 years, zero NCAATs.

Kevin O'Neill - 3 years (all losing records), zero NCAATs.

Buzz Peterson - 4 years, Zero NCAATs.

Cuonzo Martin - 3 years, ONE NCAAT.

Donnie Tyndall - 1 year, zero NCAATs.

Five of the previous seven UT coaches -16 years and one NCAAT. Both of the UT coaches that took TN to the other NCAATs post Devoe were fired. TN is lucky to have a proven winning coach working on extinguishing this dumpster fire. An unproven coach would fail miserably in this situation.

Barnes isn't the problem. Barnes can be the solution. The loud critics don't want to admit it, but the program was in shambles and it will take a while to get it on solid ground as it was in the Mears and early Devoe years.

Critics also don't want to admit that despite the final record in 2015-16, the team was well coached. There wasn't an opponent (with the possible exception of Nebraska - 11 point loss) that TN was unable to compete with. The longest losing streak of four games with two of the most lopsided losses happened shortly after the best player had a season ending injury. Even after that roster disruption (plus two post players quiting/giving up mid season) TN was able to regroup and take two of three in the SECT. That probably has happened in less than half of all SECTs.

If TN exceeds expectation in 2016-17, that would have the biggest impact on landing the prized recruits. So I hope that the over/under for losses is around 20.

Barnes, or any coach, must overcome the cluster **** that has been TN Basketball for over 25 years before the coveted big man is going to sign... they have too many less risky options. If the 7 freshman newcomers show that they can play then the odds of grabbing a couple of highly rated recruits get considerably better. 4 and 5 stars weren't/aren't going to dive into the flaming dumpster.

Logic doesn't work in this forum unfortunately

 

[calban]

Logic doesn't work in this forum unfortunately

Where was all this logic and 4 year building plans when Martin was here.
He was crucified out the gate for early losses at places like Memphis. And he wasn't a HOF-er. He was a 3 year wonder.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Where was all this logic and 4 year building plans when Martin was here.
He was crucified out the gate for early losses at places like Memphis. And he wasn't a HOF-er. He was a 3 year wonder.

I was supportive of CCM and thought that the OL petition was idiotic then and now. I lost my respect for Cuonzo by his actions in his last month or two at UT.

 

[BigZiti09]

Where was all this logic and 4 year building plans when Martin was here.
He was crucified out the gate for early losses at places like Memphis. And he wasn't a HOF-er. He was a 3 year wonder.

Revisionist history a bit.

Cuonzo inherited a progam that had went to 6 straight NCAA tourneys. Even then there was plenty that were patient with him. I know I was. I remember him getting railed for losing to Austin Peay.

I wouldn't call him a wonder though. Many wondered how he got the job with that resume.

So far though, Rick Barnes has a sense of urgency on the recruiting trail that rivals a Cuonzo Martin sub .500 team's sense of urgency in mid January.

 

[Bring_Back_Dooley]

Wade Houston - 5 years, zero NCAATs.

Kevin O'Neill - 3 years (all losing records), zero NCAATs.

Buzz Peterson - 4 years, Zero NCAATs.

Cuonzo Martin - 3 years, ONE NCAAT.

Donnie Tyndall - 1 year, zero NCAATs.

Five of the previous seven UT coaches -16 years and one NCAAT. Both of the UT coaches that took TN to the other NCAATs post Devoe were fired. TN is lucky to have a proven winning coach working on extinguishing this dumpster fire. An unproven coach would fail miserably in this situation.

Barnes isn't the problem. Barnes can be the solution. The loud critics don't want to admit it, but the program was in shambles and it will take a while to get it on solid ground as it was in the Mears and early Devoe years.

Critics also don't want to admit that despite the final record in 2015-16, the team was well coached. There wasn't an opponent (with the possible exception of Nebraska - 11 point loss) that TN was unable to compete with. The longest losing streak of four games with two of the most lopsided losses happened shortly after the best player had a season ending injury. Even after that roster disruption (plus two post players quiting/giving up mid season) TN was able to regroup and take two of three in the SECT. That probably has happened in less than half of all SECTs.

If TN exceeds expectation in 2016-17, that would have the biggest impact on landing the prized recruits. So I hope that the over/under for losses is around 20.

Barnes, or any coach, must overcome the cluster **** that has been TN Basketball for over 25 years before the coveted big man is going to sign... they have too many less risky options. If the 7 freshman newcomers show that they can play then the odds of grabbing a couple of highly rated recruits get considerably better. 4 and 5 stars weren't/aren't going to dive into the flaming dumpster.

Great post. Good to see some common sense in a sea of histrionics.

 

[Dallasbowlin]

Wade Houston - 5 years, zero NCAATs.

Kevin O'Neill - 3 years (all losing records), zero NCAATs.

Buzz Peterson - 4 years, Zero NCAATs.

Cuonzo Martin - 3 years, ONE NCAAT.

Donnie Tyndall - 1 year, zero NCAATs.

Five of the previous seven UT coaches -16 years and one NCAAT. Both of the UT coaches that took TN to the other NCAATs post Devoe were fired. TN is lucky to have a proven winning coach working on extinguishing this dumpster fire. An unproven coach would fail miserably in this situation.

Barnes isn't the problem. Barnes can be the solution. The loud critics don't want to admit it, but the program was in shambles and it will take a while to get it on solid ground as it was in the Mears and early Devoe years.

Critics also don't want to admit that despite the final record in 2015-16, the team was well coached. There wasn't an opponent (with the possible exception of Nebraska - 11 point loss) that TN was unable to compete with. The longest losing streak of four games with two of the most lopsided losses happened shortly after the best player had a season ending injury. Even after that roster disruption (plus two post players quiting/giving up mid season) TN was able to regroup and take two of three in the SECT. That probably has happened in less than half of all SECTs.

If TN exceeds expectation in 2016-17, that would have the biggest impact on landing the prized recruits. So I hope that the over/under for losses is around 20.

Barnes, or any coach, must overcome the cluster **** that has been TN Basketball for over 25 years before the coveted big man is going to sign... they have too many less risky options. If the 7 freshman newcomers show that they can play then the odds of grabbing a couple of highly rated recruits get considerably better. 4 and 5 stars weren't/aren't going to dive into the flaming dumpster.

Did I just dream pearl was our coach? Why leave him out there?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Did I just dream pearl was our coach? Why leave him out there?

Watch 'chu talkin' 'bout? The chronic liar that inherited a really good group of players and filled up the dumpster with oily rags before getting fired? BTW, he wasn't just fired for serving up hot dogs and lying like a fool about it. It wasn't a question of was the program was going to blow up with Pearl in charge. It was a question of when.

 

[BurninOrange]

Victor Uyaelunmo to announce his top 7 this week via instagram.

 

[Lefteye]

Victor Uyaelunmo to announce his top 7 this week via instagram.

Burnin, you have info on GA kids from time to time, any idea why we didn't even make Lance Thomas' top 6 or whatever?

 

[volbeast33]

Where was all this logic and 4 year building plans when Martin was here.
He was crucified out the gate for early losses at places like Memphis. And he wasn't a HOF-er. He was a 3 year wonder.

It was the same for Martin.... Two or three defending the rest unhappy.....I don't think Barnes is the answer either. I am hopeful with his history though

 

[BurninOrange]

Burnin, you have info on GA kids from time to time, any idea why we didn't even make Lance Thomas' top 6 or whatever?

What I have heard is that it was about relationships and he just felt more comfortable with the other schools. Also it is about progress on the court and we were just so unproven that he wants to be on a team with the capability of going to the tourney and we are still a little bit away from that as of yet.