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bleedingTNorange said:
Typical bruin, can't be more than one factor, has to be the simplest of simple for him to grasp it, sad really.
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One or the other had to be the final straw for not recruiting. It's simple

Either shady handler or talent

IMO it was talent

Either way adding Adu to this class wouldn't have made it a splash. So the "clean" approach isn't hurting Barnes unless there are other big names we have missed out on because of him steering clear of the dirt
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Ok Bruin, you win, it had to be one or the other, no way it was a combination of the 2, that would just be too complex.
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Here you go

The kid was a borderline prospect that the staff decided it wasn't worth the "dirty" fight.

That work??


Either way he wasn't a recruiting splash anyway
 
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BruinVol said:
Either way he wasn't a recruiting splash anyway
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I don't disagree with that at all, but that's what cracks me up, per Dallas he would've been a wow get along with Blackwell. So if those guys committed in April while they were both top 50 recruits, would they have been splashes? But then the splash would've been nullified in the updated rankings, is that what you're saying?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don't disagree with that at all, but that's what cracks me up, per Dallas he would've been a wow get along with Blackwell. So if those guys committed in April while they were both top 50 recruits, would they have been splashes? But then the splash would've been nullified in the updated rankings, is that what you're saying?
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Adu and Blackwell would have raised this class a letter grade for me. From a D/C to a C/B depending on what happens with our other spots.

One without the other would take it from a C to a C+ for me

I think we are going to end up with a C but if we lose fulkerson and Williams it could be worse IMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don't disagree with that at all, but that's what cracks me up, per Dallas he would've been a wow get along with Blackwell. So if those guys committed in April while they were both top 50 recruits, would they have been splashes? But then the splash would've been nullified in the updated rankings, is that what you're saying?
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Better than what we're recruiting now.
 
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BruinVol said:
Adu and Blackwell would have raised this class a letter grade for me. From a D/C to a C/B depending on what happens with our other spots.

One without the other would take it from a C to a C+ for me

I think we are going to end up with a C but if we lose fulkerson and Williams it could be worse IMO
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Right, except that's not what I asked, at all lol. I didn't ask for your letter grade, I was talking about at what point would those guys be splash recruits/not splash recruits? On that topic, what exactly constitutes a splash recruit? Top 100 on date committed? Top 100 on date signed?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Right, except that's not what I asked, at all lol. I didn't ask for your letter grade, I was talking about at what point would those guys be splash recruits/not splash recruits? On that topic, what exactly constitutes a splash recruit? Top 100 on date committed? Top 100 on date signed?
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Yes the luster would ware off for sure if the ratings fell that much
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
What if a guy is not top 100 when he commits, but rises to top 100 when he signs, does he now become a splash recruit?
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PR wise yes but in reality no.


Swap those read it wrong

Edites: reality yes it would be a splash but PR wise no it wouldn't be
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Because I happen to know first hand of a violation he's already committed to land a prospect, so if the talk was had then he's gonna be out of a job pretty soon if he's under minding Jacobs that quick. Again, did Jacobs give him a talk, oh I'm sure, did he include in that talk that if he doesn't get caught I don't really care what you do, I think to some extent that's also true, what does auburn basketball have to lose??

Again, agree to disagree but I think Hart's talk to Barnes was much more serious than the one most AD's give out, but that's just my interpretation of it. I don't think you'd have seen the staff drop Ado quite like they did, same for Romello White, and all of a sudden be targeting well brought up kids, or kids with Ivy League offers, if that wasn't the case.
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I'm calling BS on your having first hand knowledge on this. If you did you would have called the NCAA pronto if nothing else but your disdain for Pearl.
 
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BruinVol said:
Sorry bad post on my part

If fulkerson commits now it will be far from a splash. If he ends up on the top 100 in reality it should have been a big splash.

PR wise the public will only remember his current ranking at commitment IMO
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Gotcha, seems we agree, so then you see how silly this "big splash" or "wow recruit" talk is?
 
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wtorange said:
I'm calling BS on your having first hand knowledge on this. If you did you would have called the NCAA pronto if nothing else but your disdain for Pearl.
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The funny part of this is you thinking I dislike Pearl, that's not true at all. I'm in the age group that see Pearl as the reason Tennessee ever became relevant, or why there is Pratt Pavillion or TBA is compared to a NBA arena, I hate what Pearl did and that that's who he was, but I am very appreciative for the Pearl years.
 
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BruinVol said:
Really all the hype about recruiting is all silly unless they are top 10 overall recruits.
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If I understand your statement, i really disagree. Tennessee is in its sixth year of bottom half to bottom third of the conference and out of the top 30 in the nation recruiting. It's not coincidence that the roster has grown weaker as the remnants of that 2008-2010 recruiting classes moved on. There isn't a 100 pct correspondence, but there is high correlation between recruiting top classes and success in any sport. Unless Tennessee starts supplementing the three stars with some "splash" or "wow" recruits, it won't compete for NCAA berths much less conference championships.
 
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germanicus said:
If I understand your statement, i really disagree. Tennessee is in its sixth year of bottom half to bottom third of the conference and out of the top 30 in the nation recruiting. It's not coincidence that the roster has grown weaker as the remnants of that 2008-2010 recruiting classes moved on. There isn't a 100 pct correspondence, but there is high correlation between recruiting top classes and success in any sport. Unless Tennessee starts supplementing the three stars with some "splash" or "wow" recruits, it won't compete for NCAA berths much less conference championships.
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I understand what you saying and I certainly follow recruiting but IMO programs that aren't able to recruit the 5star talents are made with great X/O coaching.

IMO there isn't a big reason to get bent out of shape if your team finished ranked 20th or if it's finished 40th in the recruiting team rankings. Not much difference at all if the coach is worth his salt.

Jmo
 
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