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BruinVol said:
The 2020 class could be a mulligan class if the 19 class doesn't hit. That's why it's more important.


The 2020 class won't see a roster with returning starters all over it. That's simple but you are just trying to be an ass about that. The 20 class will see wide open compition for major roles regardless of the success of the 19 class.
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If you want to keep going to the tournament by getting guys ranked 150+ then you can't wait til 2020 to sign your starters for 2020-2021.
 
#6,579
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BigZiti09 said:
If you want to keep going to the tournament by getting guys ranked 150+ then you can't wait til 2020 to sign your starters for 2020-2021.
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I agree for sure. That puts all the pressure on 2020
If you want to keep the tourney trips going every year
 
#6,581
#6,581
The nerds do well with the 5 star guys. Hell we all could

After that they are just nerds behind the computer screen

No difference between Bone, Tyler Harris or JK Frazier.
 
#6,585
#6,585
BruinVol said:
None of us do outside of the 5 star guys
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Wrong.

Go to this link and read through..... (this is a specific post that I'm linking. It won't include the pic I want you to see if I quote it)

http://www.volnation.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=154750&d=1520622731

BigZiti09 said:
Yeah. This same stat gets thrown around every year at NFL draft time.

There's like 30 5* per year, 200 4* per year and about 500 3* per year. So of course there's more 3* guys getting drafted to the NFL.
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BigZiti09 said:
31 awards there. 21 were 5*, 4* or top 150 3*.

So majority (21) of the awards are given to top 150 players. 15 of them to top 70 players.

What is also interesting though is that Tennessee has 3 of 10 given to unranked guys. Two of which are just sophomores. Impressive.
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#6,588
#6,588
BigZiti09 said:
Wrong.

Go to this link and read through..... (this is a specific post that I'm linking. It won't include the pic I want you to see if I quote it)

Does Rick Barnes need to do a better job recruiting
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And again To can cherry pick rankings all you want. Like I said Earlier multiple services stoped ranking guys at 100. So how the hell are we going to intelligently talk about the difference between being ranked 90 and 110?
 
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BruinVol said:
And again To can cherry pick rankings all you want. Like I said Earlier multiple services stoped ranking guys at 100. So how the hell are we going to intelligently talk about the difference between being ranked 90 and 110?
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Because you are talking out of your ass and 247 and rivals both rank beyond 100, scout doesn't exist and nobody uses ESPN?
 
#6,590
#6,590
BigZiti09 said:
Because you are talking out of your ass and 247 and rivals both rank beyond 100, scout doesn't exist and nobody uses ESPN?
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Scout existed regarding the players we are discussing


For your success stats does Buddy Heild count as highly ranked or another miss by the nerds?
 
#6,591
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BruinVol said:
Scout existed regarding the players we are discussing


For your success stats does Buddy Held count as highly ranked or another miss by the nerds?
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Bruin - I don't know what in the hell you are getting at. Click the link and read the rankings.

Basketball rankings are 100% but it's not a coincidence that many guys are ranked.

Talking about scout.com is pointless because it doesn't exist any longer.

If you wanna drill down into the rankings there's not gonna be a huge difference in most of these guys across the services and the fact remains that guys in the top 150 are littering the All SEC player awards.

You are clueless about it. You think it's some hack behind a computer when the reality is that these kids play each other at AAU events and there's plenty of scouts and coaches there. Also not a coincidence that the same level of programs target the same kids.

Every now and then there's a Grant Williams who slips between the cracks. No doubt. Exception. Not the rule.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Bruin - I don't know what in the hell you are getting at. Click the link and read the rankings.

Basketball rankings are 100% but it's not a coincidence that many guys are ranked.

Talking about scout.com is pointless because it doesn't exist any longer.

If you wanna drill down into the rankings there's not gonna be a huge difference in most of these guys across the services and the fact remains that guys in the top 150 are littering the All SEC player awards.

You are clueless about it. You think it's some hack behind a computer when the reality is that these kids play each other at AAU events and there's plenty of scouts and coaches there. Also not a coincidence that the same level of programs target the same kids.

Every now and then there's a Grant Williams who slips between the cracks. No doubt. Exception. Not the rule.
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Heres the bottom line. Very few guys are ranked 100-150 uniformly by multiple services. You can argue they were successfully ranked when they have great levels of success guys like Hield and Williams fit that mold. Yes both were unrated and also ranked in the top 150 by others. You can argue both ways.


So while we see such discrepancies in ratings amongst the 100-200 range players why the hell even play attention to it?

I have been saying all along there is no different between a ranking of 80 and 120. None of it matters and if it does matter you can find a service that makes your argument work either side
 
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BruinVol said:
He's the bottom line. Very few guys are ranked 100-150 uniformly by multiple services. You can argue they were successfully ranked when they have great levels of success guys like Hield and Williams fit that mold. Yes both were unrated and also ranked in the top 150 by others. You can argue both ways.


So while we see such discrepancies in ratings amongst the 100-200 range players why the hell even play attention to it?

I have been saying all along there is no different between a ranking of 80 and 120. None of it matters and if it does matter you can find a service that makes your argument work either side
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After spending 2 hours showing that you have no clue about recruiting services you write this to explain them to me?

You're wrong.
 
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#6,597
Hield - #86 on Rivals, #113 on 247 Not really a huge difference.

Grant Williams - ranked outside the top 150 by both 247 and rivals (no difference at all)

Literally wrong about every point you try to make.
 
#6,598
#6,598
BigZiti09 said:
After spending 2 hours showing that you have no clue about recruiting services you write this to explain them to me?

You're wrong.
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Ok answer this and when to do tell your nerd recruiting ranking guys they suck at their job.



BruinVol said:
Hmmm


Pick your group:

Choice 1: kwe parker, mostella, Johnson, and Pons


Choice 2: Bowden, Schofield, williams and alexander
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#6,600
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BruinVol said:
Hmmm


Pick your group:

Choice 1: kwe parker, mostella, Johnson, and Pons


Choice 2: Bowden, Schofield, williams and alexander
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Cherry picking.

Why not just say Ramar Smith and Duke Crews vs Jujuan Smith and Grant Williams.

Again, nobody is saying the rankings are flawless.

Side note: Kwe Parker = unranked, Pons is just getting started and Mostella was available for a reason.
 
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