Recruiting Classes: Frost & Heupel

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Do with this information what you will. Personally, I like Heupel and am on board. If anything, these numbers disprove the claim that Heupel only won because he had Frost’s recruits, Heupel’s classes were as good if not better than Frost’s. One could posit that Heupel should’ve had better records during his tenure since he statistically had better classes; which is fair. However I think we would all agree that better recruiting classes don’t always equate to better records every year.
 
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Not sure why OP left it out, but Heupel's 2021 class at UCF had a rating of 0.8436.

Also some of the OP's numbers are wrong. 2018 was 0.8364 and that class had more to do with Frost than Heupel.

It's also a bit confusing to throw the ratings out there without context (e.g. rankings). Just meaningless numbers w/o the context.
 
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If Heupel is as good a recruiter as Frost, with the resources and brand Tennessee has, Heupel should have no problem here. Frost is pulling in top 25 classes at Nebraska, if Heupel is just as good, you would assume he could pull in top 25 classes at UT as well.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don’t see the point you’re trying to make?
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Do with this information what you will. Personally, I like Heupel and am on board. If anything, these numbers disprove the claim that Heupel only won because he had Frost’s recruits, Heupel’s classes were as good if not better Frost’s. One could posit that Heupel should’ve had better records during his tenure since he statistically had better classes; which is fair. However I think we would all agree that better recruiting classes don’t always equate to better records every year.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Not sure why OP left it out, but Heupel's 2021 class at UCF had a rating of 0.8436.

Also some of the OP's numbers are wrong. 2018 was 0.8364 and that class had more to do with Frost than Heupel.

It's also a bit confusing to throw the ratings out there without context (e.g. rankings). Just meaningless numbers w/o the context.
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You’re right, I should’ve added more context to the numbers. I accidentally left out the 2021 class because I’m an idiot.
 
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Keep in mind CJH was recruiting to UCF and the AAC, now he's recruiting for the big boys in a BIG BOY conference, which makes a huge difference! Playing on the biggest stage against the nation's toughest competition with a wide open offense . . . that's what he is recruiting to!!

GBO - beat Ole Miss!
 
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Jpcisco said:
If Heupel is as good a recruiter as Frost, with the resources and brand Tennessee has, Heupel should have no problem here. Frost is pulling in top 25 classes at Nebraska, if Heupel is just as good, you would assume he could pull in top 25 classes at UT as well.
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This group will not be happy with top 25 classes. They will want him fired the first time his recruiting class falls outside the top five.
 
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Jpcisco said:
If Heupel is as good a recruiter as Frost, with the resources and brand Tennessee has, Heupel should have no problem here. Frost is pulling in top 25 classes at Nebraska, if Heupel is just as good, you would assume he could pull in top 25 classes at UT as well.
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Top 25 isn't good enough to compete for championships in the SEC. Say you finish 10th , 5 or 6 sec teams pulled in more talent.
 
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Well, we can be pretty sure that they werent paying for players with that rating. :p but then Orlando is pretty easy to sell. Maybe that was also the point - but truth is EVERY major team pays for play, in one way or another. I just hope Heupel knows how to be more discrete/compliant while doing what is necessary or that rating will never break 85
 
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Jpcisco said:
If Heupel is as good a recruiter as Frost, with the resources and brand Tennessee has, Heupel should have no problem here. Frost is pulling in top 25 classes at Nebraska, if Heupel is just as good, you would assume he could pull in top 25 classes at UT as well.
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Good logic has no place on this board!!!! blue font of course

Go VOLS
 
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Jpcisco said:
If Heupel is as good a recruiter as Frost, with the resources and brand Tennessee has, Heupel should have no problem here. Frost is pulling in top 25 classes at Nebraska, if Heupel is just as good, you would assume he could pull in top 25 classes at UT as well.
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How many level 1 and level 2 violations did Frost walk into?
 
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Ratvol said:
Good logic has no place on this board!!!! blue font of course

Go VOLS
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Is that sound logic though? Normally it would be. However, Heupel is walking into a much,much worse situation than ANY HC IN TN history has had to deal with.
 
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