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It’s not that people don’t like defense. It’s that people like to see exciting basketball. If we had even a “ decent” offense to go with our defense, we would be a fun team to watch. Other than 2019 we haven’t really been fun to watch since Bruce Pearl was the coach. Just saying
Yet our offensive numbers are better than “decent” and better than LSU’s, the team half this board goes gah gah over, go figure.
 

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Being Top 35 in both has you ranked as like a Top 30 team on KenPom, being Top 5 in 1 and Top 50 in the other seems to have a team ranked higher (Purdue, LSU, Tennessee, Texas Tech).

Not getting to the line was a major issue, we’ve don’t a much better job of it the last 6 games and especially the last 2 games…not sure if it’s an outlier or not but seems to be better.
We have to be better than 299th nationally from the FT line if we are going to make that our bread and butter. Interestingly enough, though, #1-ranked Baylor is right behind us at 300th.
 
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We have to be better than 299th nationally from the FT line if we are going to make that our bread and butter. Interestingly enough, though, #1-ranked Baylor is right behind us at 300th.
Last 6 games we’ve averaged 22.16FTA, in conference play we’ve averaged 22.5FTA which ranks 5th in SEC…both would rank Top 10 nationally on average. Obviously that’s not a huge sample size but it’s a size we are getting to the line much more.
 

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Last 6 games we’ve averaged 22.16FTA, in conference play we’ve averaged 22.5FTA which ranks 5th in SEC…both would rank Top 10 nationally on average. Obviously that’s not a huge sample size but it’s a size we are getting to the line much more.
I'm talking about hitting them. We are 299th in FT shooting %. Getting to the line is great unless you're a terrible FT shooting team. If a more concerted effort to get to the line is our plan, we better improve our make percentage.
 
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I'm talking about hitting them. We are 299th in FT shooting %. Getting to the line is great unless you're a terrible FT shooting team. If a more concerted effort to get to the line is our plan, we better improve our make percentage.
In 6 of 15 games TN only took 10 or fewer free throws. Then spread those among 9 or 10 players and they’re not getting many reps. It is encouraging that the attempts have gone up with the better competition. Even when missing at a disturbingly higher than accrptable rate, there is the added benefit of fouls adding up on the opposing players. I hate the highly physical games when the refs let so much rough play go unchecked. Basketball is supposed to be more of a finesse game. TN’s roster isn’t built this year for highly physical play. Plus Barnes has a long bench if both sides are whistled a lot. For once, I hope the refs don’t swallow their whistles and TN adapts and takes advantage.
 
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I'm talking about hitting them. We are 299th in FT shooting %. Getting to the line is great unless you're a terrible FT shooting team. If a more concerted effort to get to the line is our plan, we better improve our make percentage.
Gotcha, and I’ve mentioned it multiple times…regardless of what offensive changes we make if we don’t start shouting better from all 3 levels we are going to struggle, idc who the coach is.
 

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In 6 of 15 games TN only took 10 or fewer free throws. Then spread those among 9 or 10 players and they’re not getting many reps. It is encouraging that the attempts have gone up with the better competition. Even when missing at a disturbingly higher than accrptable rate, there is the added benefit of fouls adding up on the opposing players. I hate the highly physical games when the refs let so much rough play go unchecked. Basketball is supposed to be more of a finesse game. TN’s roster isn’t built this year for highly physical play. Plus Barnes has a long bench if both sides are whistled a lot. For once, I hope the refs don’t swallow their whistles and TN adapts and takes advantage.
Yeah, there are some hidden benefits, like fouls adding up on certain opposing players. And I am happy to see our attempts going up. I do want to see us take advantage though, because going to the line is an empty possession if you miss. We don't have to be 80% as a team, but at least 70% is needed for a team who struggles scoring the ball when it's in play.
 
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Yeah, there are some hidden benefits, like fouls adding up on certain opposing players. And I am happy to see our attempts going up. I do want to see us take advantage though, because going to the line is an empty possession if you miss. We don't have to be 80% as a team, but at least 70% is needed for a team who struggles scoring the ball when it's in play.
I think the average gets better if they keep getting opportunities. It seems to be another mental block. Vescovi, Powell, Bailey, and Chandler are very good free throw shooters. Probably ZZZ as well. KC hit 2 of 2 last night and then missed two front ends. On the Basilio post game Romper Room/Garza Basketball Overtime last night, they said that KC made 44 consecutive free throws in high school,
 
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I think the average gets better if they keep getting opportunities. It seems to be another mental block. Vescovi, Powell, Bailey, and Chandler are very good free throw shooters. Probably ZZZ as well. KC hit 2 of 2 last night and then missed two front ends. On the Basilio post game Romper Room/Garza Basketball Overtime last night, they said that KC made 44 consecutive free throws in high school,
I hope it corrects itself. But 15 games into a 30 game season, I'm losing faith, not to mention patience with it.
 
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I hope it corrects itself. But 15 games into a 30 game season, I'm losing faith, not to mention patience with it.
I think it will. It’s a mental adjustment. There were fewer opportunities earlier AND when games are easily in hand with the Ws it’s a lot easier to knock them down. 10 for 10 versus TN Tech. 14/16 versus ETSU. However 80% plus versus UNC and Villanova. Although neither of those games were close.

Bailey might be one of the best to have shooting them in a high pressure, end of game scenarios. ZZZ seems like he might be a player with ice water in his veins. KC is an enigma. I bet he’ll really find his stroke. Vescovi will too. Uros is better than he showed last night. It’s be cool if JJJ, Fulk, and ORN hit 70%+.
 
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