Really thin at QB next year

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sjt18 said:
So how is it other programs have multiple 4/5* QB's on their rosters?

There are legitimate concerns in the program.... without conjuring up phantoms. Coached and managed properly.... all 3 stay.
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That's how Bama kept Barnett...oh wait.
 
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I can think of much worse worse problems than too much talent at the most important position. I can live with it.
 
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volmandu said:
I am not going to predict who wins the job next year. Whether it is JG, QD or Sheriron, chances are other two will transfer. No way 4-star guys stay here to be career back-up. What that leaves us with is one 4-star QB, Zack Jancek and some unheralded incoming freshman.

What are your thoughts ? Could two of them stay and only one transfer ? I think highly unlikely.

Do we get a JUCO guy or is there some big name freshman that we are pursuing ?

Could JJ come to rescue if needed ?
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Just so I'm clear... we were screwed when we didn't have any qualified QB's to take over a few years ago, and we're screwed next year ... because we have 3 seeimingly SEC qualified QB's on the roster for next year who may or may not transfer at some point.
 
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njvols said:
Just so I'm clear... we were screwed when we didn't have any qualified QB's to take over a few years ago, and we're screwed next year ... because we have 3 seeimingly SEC qualified QB's on the roster for next year who may or may not transfer at some point.
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Bipolarly amazing, isn't it?
 
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butchna said:
That's how Bama kept Barnett...oh wait.
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Coached and managed properly... the 3 currently on UT's roster stay. Jones returned understanding that his shot at starting was fairly slim. QD will be a Jr. So if he's not the starter then he'd have to wonder if his chances are better playing it out or starting over somewhere else.

Jones is very unlikely to name a starter in the spring unless it is QD and probably not then either. That means the week before the opening game, QD could find out that he isn't starting.

Would he quit then? If not, the only way he transfers is if he graduates and has a year left.
 
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sjt18 said:
. . .Jones is very unlikely to name a starter in the spring unless it is QD and probably not then either. That means the week before the opening game, QD could find out that he isn't starting.

Would he quit then? If not, the only way he transfers is if he graduates and has a year left.
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This.
 
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sjt18 said:
Coached and managed properly... the 3 currently on UT's roster stay. Jones returned understanding that his shot at starting was fairly slim. QD will be a Jr. So if he's not the starter then he'd have to wonder if his chances are better playing it out or starting over somewhere else.

Jones is very unlikely to name a starter in the spring unless it is QD and probably not then either. That means the week before the opening game, QD could find out that he isn't starting.

Would he quit then? If not, the only way he transfers is if he graduates and has a year left.
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He has a redshirt to play with. So :victory: years left at his next school. I disagree about Sheriron also. He returned because he genuinely thought he'd win out. If that gets quashed during Spring (and these kids get the gist of the pecking order...don't delude yourself) I think he moves on. If by "managing" you mean blatantly lie your ass off? It works only so far. Other programs lose talented also rans all the time. Somebody will bring up Ohio State. The only QB from their championship roster with legit NFL aspirations was Cardale Jones, and the other injuries worked a perfect storm for him. The others were system QBs in the perfect system for them. That's not what we have. JG, QD or SJ could frontline many programs...don't think the coaches can shield that knowledge from them.
 
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508mikey said:
Dont want Jancek -- his dad always hopes the Vols lose and posts derogatory about it on Twitter
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I was surprised Zach didn't transfer. But since he didn't, I am not going to lay the "sins" of the father on the son. It seems a hard enough situation for the young man without the opinions of judgmental jerks making it worse.
 
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TNnative said:
I was surprised Zach didn't transfer. But since he didn't, I am not going to lay the "sins" of the father on the son. It seems a hard enough situation for the young man without the opinions of judgmental jerks making it worse.
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I have heard he is a decent scout team QB and might make a decent grad asst coach for QBS-- if he is happy with that so be it -- still dont know why the dad hopes his team loses every though -- sour grapes I guess
 
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goooooovols said:
I think S. Jones is here to stay...
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I read S. Jones the same way. He's home, and knows it. He'll change job before he changes his colors. But IF one of the others transfer, I don't think Sheriron will change job, either. He'll be the #2 guy.

So I'm not worried about our depth. We'll have (I think) Guarantano (but maybe Dormady) starting, Jones backing him up, and Jancek as ostensible 3rd string so the '17 recruit(s) can red-shirt. So...4 or 5 in the stable, about the same as this year.
 
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Sherrion is a VFL in my book. transferring somewhere else doesn't always mean he's quitting on the team. its a simple business decision.
 
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Sheriron is a good soldier. If he doesn't win the starting nod, he'll transfer to a team he can play for knowing he gave it his best shot...jmo.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I read S. Jones the same way. He's home, and knows it. He'll change job before he changes his colors. But IF one of the others transfer, I don't think Sheriron will change job, either. He'll be the #2 guy.

So I'm not worried about our depth. We'll have (I think) Guarantano (but maybe Dormady) starting, Jones backing him up, and Jancek as ostensible 3rd string so the '17 recruit(s) can red-shirt. So...4 or 5 in the stable, about the same as this year.
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What happens if we dont sign a QB in 2017? One of JG, SJ or QD transfers? Seems like we would be kind of thin at that point. I guess there is always an outside shot JJ could play a little QB in an emergency situation.

My scenario is on the extreme side and by no means is meant to be taken like it has a high probability of happening. Just asked it for debate sake.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Should have been running a two QB rotation this year.
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With our offense it makes sense to hand it over to Dobbs. 2 QB rotation is only needed when there is no clear cut choice to put us in the beat position to win.

Go Vols!
 
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Chill girl... i was freaking out about this same thing a few weeks ago and was pointed to G-dog. Hes beast. Dobbs 2.0 upgrade. Hes got the arm active footwork in pocket he senses pressure. Steps up in pocket will take off. Hes dynamic. And hes probably going to backup qd.

Then i got to thinkin about worley, how many times he would never ever keep the ball. It drove us nuts. U only have to keep it and run w it once in a while to keep em honest. If qd can make good reads he is quick enough to make this option work.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
What happens if we dont sign a QB in 2017? One of JG, SJ or QD transfers? Seems like we would be kind of thin at that point. I guess there is always an outside shot JJ could play a little QB in an emergency situation.

My scenario is on the extreme side and by no means is meant to be taken like it has a high probability of happening. Just asked it for debate sake.
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Yep, BOT, you're right. If we didn't sign a QB in '17, and JG or QD transferred, we'd be dangerously thin. Absolutely.

Just not gonna worry about it unless all those conditions come into play. Mainly because I'd be surprised if we didn't recruit at least one (maybe two?) QBs in the '17 signing class. With that, we'd be okay even if a current member of the squad transferred out.
 
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RollerVol said:
we got all the arms and legs we need...JG stays, Jones stays...QD stays...no one is going to leave

GO VOLS...RUN THE TABLE!
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Agree plus we have Jancek just in case too & whoever we bring in for 2017 either Bubba Thompson or Urich. Plenty of QB's to do until 2018 & 2019 in which we need to consider getting a 4* or hopefully a 5* QB.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
What happens if we dont sign a QB in 2017? One of JG, SJ or QD transfers? Seems like we would be kind of thin at that point. I guess there is always an outside shot JJ could play a little QB in an emergency situation.

My scenario is on the extreme side and by no means is meant to be taken like it has a high probability of happening. Just asked it for debate sake.
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I think if JG wins the opening start, we lose BOTH Dormady and Jones. Shouldn't affect the decision...always pick the best...my concern is that he hasn't completed the last two seasons of high school football. He really needed this year break. We need to sign a promising 2017 signalcaller.
 
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butchna said:
I think if JG wins the opening start, we lose BOTH Dormady and Jones. Shouldn't affect the decision...always pick the best...my concern is that he hasn't completed the last two seasons of high school football. He really needed this year break. We need to sign a promising 2017 signalcaller.
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Why is it more important to find a better QB IN 2017 than in either 2018 or 2019? I feel it's way more important for 2018 or 2019 than 2017. That's just me but you said you think both Dormady & Jones is leaving if JG was to win the job.

I could see Dormady transferring but not Jones too. Jones would be the backup to JG plus we have Jancek as a just in case. We're going to sign either Bubba Thompson or Urich at QB for 2017 but in no way are they the future.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yep, BOT, you're right. If we didn't sign a QB in '17, and JG or QD transferred, we'd be dangerously thin. Absolutely.

Just not gonna worry about it unless all those conditions come into play. Mainly because I'd be surprised if we didn't recruit at least one (maybe two?) QBs in the '17 signing class. With that, we'd be okay even if a current member of the squad transferred out.
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So maybe take 2 QBs in 2017? That would be interesting. I wouldn't mind that. Get one that definitely competes for the starting job and another for depth. Then try and get a big time QB in 2018 or 2019. That could set up really nice.
 
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tonybologna said:
Why is it more important to find a better QB IN 2017 than in either 2018 or 2019? I feel it's way more important for 2018 or 2019 than 2017. That's just me but you said you think both Dormady & Jones is leaving if JG was to win the job.

I could see Dormady transferring but not Jones too. Jones would be the backup to JG plus we have Jancek as a just in case. We're going to sign either Bubba Thompson or Urich at QB for 2017 but in no way are they the future.
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Because I THINK that both would transfer in that situation. Definitely not HOPING for it, but if that happens, JG's backup is going to be more immediately critical than EVENTUAL options in 2018 and 2019. There are a lot of posters who seem to agree with you that Sheriron has abandoned any and all personal ambitions in favor of being a VFL. I personally feel that he has given himself every chance to start at QB for this team...and that's his preference. Failing to achieve that, he'll complete his dream elsewhere...jmo.
 
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