RDA IV: What's His Impact?

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DaddyChad said:
I think we're overestimating the impact he will have on offense. I do believe he will be a great player for us on special teams though. RDA and Berry will be hard to contend with as returners.
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saying the kid will touch the ball a couple times a game on offense is not "overestimating". Its just the truth.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Who was the third back last season? How much did play?
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Think that's the point...they would've liked to have Justin Pickett/Darrell Scott function seamlessly when Hurd and Lane were dinged up...they didn't. And it limited the offense. We'd like a steady diet of Hurd and Kamara, but there will be plenty of occasions (non-injury related) where both will be on the sideline. Great teams have the third and fourth backs that allow them to run base plays...that's our goal.
 
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butchna said:
Think that's the point...they would've liked to have Justin Pickett/Darrell Scott function seamlessly when Hurd and Lane were dinged up...they didn't. And it limited the offense. We'd like a steady diet of Hurd and Kamara, but there will be plenty of occasions (non-injury related) where both will be on the sideline. Great teams have the third and fourth backs that allow them to run base plays...that's our goal.
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And Kamara is much more talented than Lane.

I think Derrell Scott is more talented than RDA too.

To me, he's Devrin Young. Small, fast, plays in games where the team has a lead.

There's too much talent for RDA to play now.
 
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butchna said:
Think that's the point...they would've liked to have Justin Pickett/Darrell Scott function seamlessly when Hurd and Lane were dinged up...they didn't. And it limited the offense. We'd like a steady diet of Hurd and Kamara, but there will be plenty of occasions (non-injury related) where both will be on the sideline. Great teams have the third and fourth backs that allow them to run base plays...that's our goal.
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exactly. Some dont wanna hear that though. Even though its the truth.
 
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LotteryPick said:
And Kamara is much more talented than Lane.

I think Derrell Scott is more talented than RDA too.

To me, he's Devrin Young. Small, fast, plays in games where the team has a lead.

There's too much talent for RDA to play now.
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Name me a top program that only ran two running backs (important minutes wise) the ENTIRE season...doesn't happen. Bama primarily used Derrick Henry and TJ Yeldon but needed a significant amount of Kenyan Drake last year. I think you're hung up on the Devrin Young comparison...maybe Abernathy is closer to Warrick Dunn in ability? :dunno: Prolly not but there are plenty of players in college football history (Jacquizz Rodgers?) that buck your stereotype. I'm not even advocating him being the 3rd running back but it's extremely possible that he contributes more than the garbage time you're consigning him to...and it would be a good thing, so don't stock up on razor blades. :)
 
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butchna said:
Name me a top program that only ran two running backs (important minutes wise) the ENTIRE season...doesn't happen. Bama primarily used Derrick Henry and TJ Yeldon but needed a significant amount of Kenyan Drake last year. I think you're hung up on the Devrin Young comparison...maybe Abernathy is closer to Warrick Dunn in ability? :dunno: Prolly not but there are plenty of players in college football history (Jacquizz Rodgers?) that buck your stereotype. I'm not even advocating him being the 3rd running back but it's extremely possible that he contributes more than the garbage time you're consigning him to...and it would be a good thing, so don't stock up on razor blades. :)
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We did.

USC, Auburn, OSU, off the top of my head.

RDA is not at all similar to the RB's you named.

Kamara and Hurd will get 15+ each a game , Dobbs will get 10+ a game, Von and Pig will get touches.

Where does he fit?
 
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butchna said:
Name me a top program that only ran two running backs (important minutes wise) the ENTIRE season...doesn't happen. Bama primarily used Derrick Henry and TJ Yeldon but needed a significant amount of Kenyan Drake last year. I think you're hung up on the Devrin Young comparison...maybe Abernathy is closer to Warrick Dunn in ability? :dunno: Prolly not but there are plenty of players in college football history (Jacquizz Rodgers?) that buck your stereotype. I'm not even advocating him being the 3rd running back but it's extremely possible that he contributes more than the garbage time you're consigning him to...and it would be a good thing, so don't stock up on razor blades. :)
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exactly...

also LSU had 4 RBs last yr and they used every one of them. The more, the better.
 
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LotteryPick said:
We did.

USC, Auburn, OSU, off the top of my head.

RDA is not at all similar to the RB's you named.

Kamara and Hurd will get 15+ each a game , Dobbs will get 10+ a game, Von and Pig will get touches.

Where does he fit?
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40+ runs per game? oof. hope we get the tempo up so we can get north of 70 plays a game then.
 
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Garbage time and special teams. I see nothing wrong with that, would really hate to see one of our star players get hurt in one of those situations. If he can do more then great but size has to be a concern.

At any rate, glad he is on the team and if he contributes even more then kudos to the staff for getting him here.
 
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LotteryPick said:
We did.

USC, Auburn, OSU, off the top of my head.

RDA is not at all similar to the RB's you named.

Kamara and Hurd will get 15+ each a game , Dobbs will get 10+ a game, Von and Pig will get touches.

Where does he fit?
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Your opinion...he might be better than you think...can't be worse. :)
 
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LotteryPick said:
This is just a common case of VN overhyping a player because he's new.
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I'm not overhyping him at all...just a lot more flexible to his possibilities. Allows for pleasant surprises. Wholeheartedly endorse this approach. :)
 
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I would venture to say that the same ones on here who write that RDA will get little to no touches this season are the same ones who complain about the lack of depth at the RB position. Just sayin'.
 
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jakez4ut said:
40+ runs per game? oof. hope we get the tempo up so we can get north of 70 plays a game then.
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actually, that might not be far off as i go back and check.

in total, we averaged (incl bowl game) 80 plays a game.

primary QB's accounted for 35 pass attempts/game
primary RB's accounted for 23 rush attempts/game

Top 5 WR's accounted for 14 catches/game (that's just almost 3 catches a piece each!)

Hurd/Wolf accounted for 4 catches/game (2 each!)


bottom line, aside from the primary RB/QB (who touch the ball the most), there are another 22 plays per game that were rushes or reception opportunities from other players.

if our offensive efficiency and temp do improve this year, it might be reasonable to expect us to be north of 80 plays a game this year.

but looking at the rush attempts (dobbs (only 6 games), Hurd and Lane) that's roughly 75% of all the carries.

factor in another 6 games for Dobbs, and you're only looking about about another 6 chances per game where someone other than Dobbs, Lane, or Hurd carried the ball.

how does that fit in here, no idea, but use as you see fit.
 
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LotteryPick said:
This is just a common case of VN overhyping a player because he's new.
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or just one individual refusing to believe he will play when its clear he will. Nobody has said he will get the bulk or anything. thats not the case. But he will get a few touches each game.
 
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Just putting this out there. In 2012 (yes I know it was a few years ago) RDA IV averaged 5.3 yds per touch, and 12.2 per rec. That was also Butch Jones last year at Cincy. His 2013 campaign was under the offense of Tuberville. While I don't think he will be called out in the starting 11 on offense, to say that he is relegated to mop up duties is rediculous. His skill set is one for creating mismatches, not running out the clock. RDA should get in a few times a game, if for nothing else than to make the defense plan and account for him.
 
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