Ranking the SEC coaches (Football)

#77
#77
VOLinthaATL said:
Again, you are correct...

Just pointing out that the playoff is the best way to do it however who's to say if they made it a 4 game playoff this year with the Rose Bowl and the UF and OSU game being the games, that if USC played Florida, USC may have won that game...that's all...

BTW...not trying to take anything away from Florida by any means...
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I like the way it is now, but I don't want to launch yet another playoff debate.
 
#82
#82
The one thing the BCS has unquestionably ruined is January 1. It used to be fantastic -- you got two TVs going next to each other and watched games all day and evening long, in one final college football blowout. Then you argued over who was #1. Now there's only one game at a time from mid-afternoon on, and they string the big bowls along for most of a week. Bah.
 
#84
#84
Vercingetorix said:
The one thing the BCS has unquestionably ruined is January 1. It used to be fantastic -- you got two TVs going next to each other and watched games all day and evening long, in one final college football blowout. Then you argued over who was #1. Now there's only one game at a time from mid-afternoon on, and they string the big bowls along for most of a week. Bah.
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More of a reason to drink beer during the week!
 
#89
#89
Are we talking about immediately recent history and the current day when ranking coaches, or simply what they've done overall in their career?

If it's the latter, then guys like Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno would be at the top of the list based on a ton of bowl wins, national championships, guys put into the NFL, etc. If the former, then guys like Spurrier would be downgraded based on not having SEC titles since....what, 1996? In addition, the feeble South Carolina offense is hardly conjuring up images of various UF quarterbacks.
 
#90
#90
Dont really feel like reading all the posts, but my list is this:

1: Spurrier
2: Richt
3: Tubberville
4: Saban
5: Meyer
6: Fulmer
7: Nutt
8: Johnson
9: Miles
10: Brooks
11: Orgeron
12: Croom

A case can be made for anyone in the top five to be moved up or down.
 
#91
#91
Dawson said:
Dont really feel like reading all the posts, but my list is this:

1: Spurrier
2: Richt
3: Tubberville
4: Saban
5: Meyer
6: Fulmer
7: Nutt
8: Johnson
9: Miles
10: Brooks
11: Orgeron
12: Croom

A case can be made for anyone in the top five to be moved up or down.
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Tuberville should never be considered one of the top 5 coaches in the SEC, much less higher than 3.
 
#92
#92
Vercingetorix said:
In basketball, I'd agree with you. But winning the so-called Mythical National Championship in football is way too reliant on a bunch of other things around the country breaking your way. LSU got to play Oklahoma instead of a pretty obviously better USC team. Auburn ran the table the next year but didn't even get to play in the game. Urban Meyer wouldn't have his title yet if USC had bothered to show up against UCLA this year. Heck, if UCLA and Kansas State hadn't both blown it on the last day of the season in 1998, it's possible the computers would have left us out of that title game too.

All a coach can do is have a great year, win the conference, and put his team in the BCS mix. But I don't see how Saban should be lauded that much more for LSU's 2003 season than, say, Tuberville should for Auburn's 2004.
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This is one of the better reasoned posts I've seen in awhile.
 
#93
#93
OMG.....Meyer is not in the same class as SOS.....no way no how. nor is he in the same class ol Phil. There are a lot of coaches that could have won the NC with the talent he had last year. Better talent? yeah. Better coach? ......NO WAY.
 
#94
#94
GAMECOCK said:
OMG.....Meyer is not in the same class as SOS.....no way no how. nor is he in the same class ol Phil. There are a lot of coaches that could have won the NC with the talent he had last year. Better talent? yeah. Better coach? ......NO WAY.
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He played a wide receiver at running back. It's not like that team was the '01 Hurricanes. They had plenty of talent, but there were problems at key positions that Meyer creatively worked around. He deserves credit.
 
#95
#95
kptvol said:
He played a wide receiver at running back. It's not like that team was the '01 Hurricanes. They had plenty of talent, but there were problems at key positions that Meyer creatively worked around. He deserves credit.
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How hard is it to make sure your best athlete gets the football?
 
#98
#98
1. Steve Spurrier-maybe i am biased but there is not a team in the nation that would not have him as their 1st choice if he was available.
2. Phillip Fulmer-this man can flat out coach. anytime you are at a school this long and have a winning percentage as high as his it demands respect.
3. Mark Richt-this guy has brought uga back to dominance the past 7 years or so.
4. Urban Meyer- i know he has won a national title and has florida back on top but lets see if he can mantain it like the coaches above him
5. Tommy Tuberville-dont care for the mans attitude but no doubt au is a great football program and they contend year after year for the sec title. got screwed 2 years ago.
6. Nick Saban-lets see if he can stay put for a little bit. i believe if he would have stayed at lswho they could have won maybe 1-2 more national titles
7. Houston Nutt-love houston nutt. unfortunately he has done some questionable things the past 2 years with recruits and its biting him on the ars
8. Bobby Johnson-when you can win and compete at Vandy then you can coach.
9. Les Miles- not sold on him whatsoever. sure they have the talent but they underachevied big time last year. lets see how he does with the majority of the guys his this year(his recruits)
10. Ed Orgeron-love the intensity but maybe he should have stayed at the other usc.
11. Rich Brooks- lucky to still have his job. uk is a basketball school and always will be. football will always come second to basketball and until that changes uk will always be a 5, 6 , 7 win program.
12. Sylvester Croom-well, hmmmm thats all i have to say about that.
 
#99
#99
cocknfire said:
1. Steve Spurrier-maybe i am biased but there is not a team in the nation that would not have him as their 1st choice if he was available.
2. Phillip Fulmer-this man can flat out coach. anytime you are at a school this long and have a winning percentage as high as his it demands respect.
3. Mark Richt-this guy has brought uga back to dominance the past 7 years or so.
4. Urban Meyer- i know he has won a national title and has florida back on top but lets see if he can mantain it like the coaches above him
5. Tommy Tuberville-dont care for the mans attitude but no doubt au is a great football program and they contend year after year for the sec title. got screwed 2 years ago.
6. Nick Saban-lets see if he can stay put for a little bit. i believe if he would have stayed at lswho they could have won maybe 1-2 more national titles
7. Houston Nutt-love houston nutt. unfortunately he has done some questionable things the past 2 years with recruits and its biting him on the ars
8. Bobby Johnson-when you can win and compete at Vandy then you can coach.
9. Les Miles- not sold on him whatsoever. sure they have the talent but they underachevied big time last year. lets see how he does with the majority of the guys his this year(his recruits)
10. Ed Orgeron-love the intensity but maybe he should have stayed at the other usc.
11. Rich Brooks- lucky to still have his job. uk is a basketball school and always will be. football will always come second to basketball and until that changes uk will always be a 5, 6 , 7 win program.
12. Sylvester Croom-well, hmmmm thats all i have to say about that.
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You can't honestly tell me Fulmer is above Meyer, Saban, Richt, or even Tuberville.
 
#100
#100
tvolsfan said:
You can't honestly tell me Fulmer is above Meyer, Saban, Richt, or even Tuberville.
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1. Nick Saban- I think he's easily the best coach in the group, but he's also right at the top of the list as a recruiter.
2. Steve Spurrier- what he did at Florida was excellent... if he can win an SEC title at South Carolina, put him at the top of the list.
3. Mark Richt- game-day coaching has been a bit questionable lately, but his preparation and recruiting are right at the top. Georgia will be a power as long as he is there.
4. Urban Meyer- everywhere he has gone, he has won, and should probably get used to it as long as he's in the talent pool that is the state of Florida.
5. Phil Fulmer- only his recruiting and '98 national title give him the nod over Tubberville. game-day coaching and decisions are very questionable and without Cutcliffe, the program went continually downhill. Hasn't even went to the BCS since '99.
6. Tommy Tubberville- continues to bring in top talent and always has his team ready to play. coaching decisions seem to be on the money every game, even with the riverboat gambler attitude.
7. Bobby Johnson- every year, has a team that shouldn't even be on the same field as other SEC teams competitive and every once in a while pulls an upset. Very good coach.
8. Les Miles- teams seem to be very undisciplined and he has a tendency to get lost in the games, but no questioning his record since he's been there.
9. Houston Nutt- not sure how much longer he'll be at Arkansas with the AD changes and controversy, but did what his team was capable of last year, and getting the type of RBs he has there is a credit to his recruiting.
10. Rich Brooks- had a great season last year with a mediocre team.. has to continue the upward trend to keep his job.
11. Sylvester Croom- has had nothing to work with since he's been in Starkville, and still found a way to win a couple games he shouldn't have. team was competitive last year despite record.
12. Ed Orgeron- easily the worst coach in the league.. team was above average last year and underachieved thanks to his poor coaching. good recruiter but horrible coach.
 
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