Racism

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McDad said:
I am happy to have a dialogue. But your opinion is set in concrete. Unlike others, i find no joy in argument. I much rather have conversations without confrontations here just like i do in my real life. So, go fight and enjoy yourself.
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Actually, I've done a 180 on this topic, and on many other issues. I would hardly say any of my opinions are concrete, though it's always wise to be guarded against close-mindedness.
 
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hog88 said:
Last paragraph is spot on!

If I did want to discuss race it wouldn't be with a dam barista. Especially at Starbucks, their coffe sucks.
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I find that most people of other ethnicities care little to discuss race. The few that do aren't interested in mutual sharing of perspectives but rather unilateral condemnations of others.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The war on drugs still creates significant racial injustice. The general racism of people around the US is insignificant, I agree. I would say the same thing about cops in general, too. The problem lies mostly in law.

If we stand for individualism in all things, that eliminates the war on drugs, the war on poverty, and whatever other legislation is holding the black community back. Individualism solves the significant problems.
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This should help you see how your argument is laughable, at best:

Drug enforcement is not racist | New York Post
 
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n_huffhines said:
Actually, I've done a 180 on this topic, and on many other issues. I would hardly say any of my opinions are concrete, though it's always wise to be guarded against close-mindedness.
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Congratulations. I hope the path you're on now is a good one.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The war on drugs still creates significant racial injustice. The general racism of people around the US is insignificant, I agree. I would say the same thing about cops in general, too. The problem lies mostly in law.

If we stand for individualism in all things, that eliminates the war on drugs, the war on poverty, and whatever other legislation is holding the black community back. Individualism solves the significant problems.
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Those really are conditional factors out of most people's control though. The conversation can be had without having to bring up things like this.

Now the biggest part of the conversation will be "what is holding the black community back?" Most likely answer?

Racism. Although undefined, that very likely will be the answer you'll get. And asking to specify that kind of answer? I'm not sure that the answers will be any more clear.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Those really are conditional factors out of most people's control though. The conversation can be had without having to bring up things like this.

Now the biggest part of the conversation will be "what is holding the black community back?" Most likely answer?

Racism. Although undefined, that very likely will be the answer you'll get. And asking to specify that kind of answer? I'm not sure that the answers will be any more clear.
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Good point. Poor personal choice holds more people back than any other factor (in usa)
 
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Grand Vol said:
Those really are conditional factors out of most people's control though. The conversation can be had without having to bring up things like this.

Now the biggest part of the conversation will be "what is holding the black community back?" Most likely answer?

Racism. Although undefined, that very likely will be the answer you'll get. And asking to specify that kind of answer? I'm not sure that the answers will be any more clear.
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But it doesn't matter to me if people can't properly verbalize what the root of the issue is. If we stand for individualism, and we eliminate the root of the problems, then the conversation is mostly over. Yeah, there will always be some extremist yapping, but that goes for every group.
 
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volprof said:
I think I'm going to go to Starbuck's today and have a conversation about race matters with my barista while s/he is serving up my Venti coffee.

And I'll let him or her know that I do like my coffee black.
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Hot, light, and sweet.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But it doesn't matter to me if people can't properly verbalize what the root of the issue is. If we stand for individualism, and we eliminate the root of the problems, then the conversation is mostly over. Yeah, there will always be some extremist yapping, but that goes for every group.
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How does individualism eliminate the root of racism?
 
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McDad said:
Disagree. Talk is cheap. It improves when we treat each other with respect, common courtesy, and appreciation.

When i am called a vulgar, racist name, I understand the language they use defines them more than it does me. And i appreciate that not everyone is like them.

There's probably 5-10% of the population that likes to keep the pot stirred. I sincerely believe the rest of us simply want to live our lives, raise our kids, and find happiness.
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Trouble maker.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Those really are conditional factors out of most people's control though. The conversation can be had without having to bring up things like this.

Now the biggest part of the conversation will be "what is holding the black community back?" Most likely answer?

Racism. Although undefined, that very likely will be the answer you'll get. And asking to specify that kind of answer? I'm not sure that the answers will be any more clear.
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even then its clearly not the case. because some people escape their situation. i read a story the other day about a guy that grew up in the hood made it into a prestigious school with a 4.0. obviously they can get out and improve their lives, but the constant crutch of 'the man getting me down' is the only thing keeping them from improving. are all their problems going to go away? no, but guess what, the rest of us deal with the same issues.
 
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McDad said:
How does individualism eliminate the root of racism?
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n_huffhines said:
Thank you for identifying which group you belong to. The last paragraph is a joke, right?

Serious question, do you want a better result, or you like the way things are because you see things as just, and you value justice as the result?
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So after we talk away racism we can talk away the gay. Both have as much chance of working.
 
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volprof said:
I think I'm going to go to Starbuck's today and have a conversation about race matters with my barista while s/he is serving up my Venti coffee.

And I'll let him or her know that I do like my coffee black.
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That is how I like my women!





















ground up and in the freezer.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But it doesn't matter to me if people can't properly verbalize what the root of the issue is. If we stand for individualism, and we eliminate the root of the problems, then the conversation is mostly over. Yeah, there will always be some extremist yapping, but that goes for every group.
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It's at the core of the problem though.

"Why is racism a problem?"

"Because."

"Because why?"

"The white man keeps me down."

"Why is that?"

"Cause racism."

Vicious circle here. You say that eliminating the drug war would help. I disagree. I think the problem is much deeper and people are conditioned to think a certain way. Individualism isn't going to help that.
 
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