Racism

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The girl has some mental problems for sure. She lives in the greatest Nation on earth & doesn't even know that to be a FACT.
 
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Grand Vol said:
BS I could almost guarantee you this generation hasn't even seen a percent of what that generation went through. Not a one of them has ever been tools they can't use this bathroom or have to pick up their meal from the back door or they couldn't vote because the color of their skin. Sure they probably heard the stories, but the cries of racism they like to spew out pale in comparison.

That's the weakest augment I've ever seen you post. Even by your standards.
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It's only weak because it seems you didn't even read my post. Try again
 
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Grand Vol said:
I did read it. And is still a pathetic attempt at justification of something that cannot be justified.
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It's pathetic to believe that if someone's parents had been hosed down and attacked by dogs they might be a little distrustful of those same people? I never said it is always valid but dismissing it straight out is ignorant

As usual you're reading something that isn't there
 
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utvolpj said:
It's pathetic to believe that if someone's parents had been hosed down and attacked by dogs they might be a little distrustful of those same people?
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Those same people? Sure, they should distrust Bull Conner. By the way, I searched for "last time fire hose used against black people", came up as 1963. You think it has been more recent?
 
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McDad said:
Those same people? Sure, they should distrust Bull Conner. By the way, I searched for "last time fire hose used against black people", came up as 1963. You think it has been more recent?
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My parents were alive then and have vivid memories. I've heard many of the stories. Difference is they weren't the ones being sprayed or bitten.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's pathetic to believe that if someone's parents had been hosed down and attacked by dogs they might be a little distrustful of those same people? I never said it is always valid but dismissing it straight out is ignorant

As usual you're reading something that isn't there
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And it's pathetic on your part to assume that because someone heard the stories of racism from their grandparents that they can automatically assume the same rules apply today. Distrust is one thing. Automatically reaching for the race card any time something doesn't go their way or because they are told to by people like Al and Jesse are two entirely different situations.

Do I think that racism exists today? Sure. On ALL sides and not just from whites to blacks. Your statements are indicative of racism from the black to white angle. Because if I was to automatically assume a group of people are racist and automatically distrust said group based on the color of their skin as well as a preconceived notion, that makes it...?

Racism.

I would be willing to bet the individual listed in the OP has likely never been to another country. And likely has nothing to compare how "racist" we are in this nation as compared to others. And is straight talking out her ass trying to get publicity. (congrats, she achieved it) And when asked, couldn't tell you five things that have happened to her that have been "racist" that her grandparents wouldn't scoff and shake their head at. Yet she is content to drop that card at the perceived slights that are probably, I'd say close to certainly, in her mind alone.
 
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utvolpj said:
My parents were alive then and have vivid memories. I've heard many of the stories. Difference is they weren't the ones being sprayed or bitten.
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As were mine. The incident was shocking and images/accounts of it are uncomfortable to us. But that event isn't illustrative of the majority whites' attitudes then or now.
 
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McDad said:
As were mine. The incident was shocking and images/accounts of it are uncomfortable to us. But that event isn't illustrative of the majority whites' attitudes then or now.
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Neither was slavery but that doesn't diminish the impact.

I know I've quit going to a store or restaurant based on the way they've treated family and friends. Can't imagine what I'd do of they had tried to kill them. Heck, GWB invaded and destroyed an entire country because someone wanted to kill his dad
 
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No one outside of the NY Rap community even knew who she was until she started spouting this rhetoric, now she has a bunch of white conservatives talking about her.

Goal accomplished.
 
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utvolpj said:
Neither was slavery but that doesn't diminish the impact.
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Agreed. But I am not responsible nor am I culpable for the actions of a group of white people before I was born.
Should I distrust my Jewish brothers because their ancestors begged some Romans to crucify my savior?
Should women distrust men because they couldn't vote and we're only slightly more valued than property a century ago?
Maybe my Asians friends should carry a grudge because FDR put their gparents in internment camps?
As a person with Scotch - Irish heritage, I should be angry at white with English lineage for the hardships they placed on my "people"?
 
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joevol320 said:
she's hot. funny, I bet white middle America buys her albums and goes to her concert.
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.....that's what's funny about it all. They don't.

she's barely on the radar. She's gotten more notoriety for twitter beefs and her playboy spread than her actual rapping.
 
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McDad said:
Those same people? Sure, they should distrust Bull Conner. By the way, I searched for "last time fire hose used against black people", came up as 1963. You think it has been more recent?
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Everybody in the entire country has been getting "hosed" under Obama, especially the black community..
 
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Crew said:
.....that's what's funny about it all. They don't.

she's barely on the radar. She's gotten more notoriety for twitter beefs and her playboy spread than her actual rapping.
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this straight white male will be googling this later..
 
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YorkVol said:
No one outside of the NY Rap community even knew who she was until she started spouting this rhetoric, now she has a bunch of white conservatives talking about her.

Goal accomplished.
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so is she "underground" or mainstream now?
 
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I think I'm going to go to Starbuck's today and have a conversation about race matters with my barista while s/he is serving up my Venti coffee.

And I'll let him or her know that I do like my coffee black.
 
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volprof said:
I think I'm going to go to Starbuck's today and have a conversation about race matters with my barista while s/he is serving up my Venti coffee.

And I'll let him or her know that I do like my coffee black.
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Only color a person in food service cares about is green.
 
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utvolpj said:
Neither was slavery but that doesn't diminish the impact.

I know I've quit going to a store or restaurant based on the way they've treated family and friends. Can't imagine what I'd do of they had tried to kill them. Heck, GWB invaded and destroyed an entire country because someone wanted to kill his dad
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Is that according to The Daily Kos, The Huffington Post, or MSNBC?
 
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volprof said:
I generally admire the efforts Starbuck's takes in forging new forms of employee treatment and customer relations, but this sounds pretty goofy, in my opinion.
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Agreed, but good on them for making an effort.
 
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