Wasn't he the #1 dual threat qb in his class??
I think it is hard to evaluate players when they are not coming from the South. Overall, I believe the competition is just not as good. So, maybe that is your answer. He had good coaches, good receivers, and inferior competition.
Just sharing what I think about our QBs, nobody need agree with me. As for JG as dual threat, what do you call this? Why haven't we seen it at the UT?
You could easily make a video of some plays at Tennessee that look just like these passes....late and underthrown but still completed passes. You can also identify that he has been staring down receivers before he got to TN and never stopped. As far as the running, most look like designed run plays and like other have said the defenses don’t look very fast.
I was just responding to the context of the JG we see on HS film vs what we’ve seen since he took his first snap at TN. I too am an optimist, most that are having a discussion on a Vols football forum mid February are. He is not the first to disappoint and he won’t be the last. Maybe we see a completely improved JG this year and he plays lights out or maybe we see him transfer in the spring....either way I think most here hope we don’t get a repeat of last seasons QB playI can what you mean. However, just lay the below down to me just being me.
I am someone who believes in my Vols. I believe even when I have no reason to believe in them. In Kiffin-Dooley-Jones era, I still believed we would win every game we played. I believed in the team and its individual players. And well, you know what? I still believe, and give not "dayum" if no one else does. I'll just keep on believing. Vols forever!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was just responding to the context of the JG we see on HS film vs what we’ve seen since he took his first snap at TN. I too am an optimist, most that are having a discussion on a Vols football forum mid February are. He is not the first to disappoint and he won’t be the last. Maybe we see a completely improved JG this year and he plays lights out or maybe we see him transfer in the spring....either way I think most here hope we don’t get a repeat of last seasons QB play
Can't disagree on that line of reasoning. Just put me down as one of those folks who still believe JG will breakout though this is his last chance. I don't give up on my Vols as easily as some. Despite all I've said, I harbor a sneaking suspicion we also will be seeing Hill producing on the field to our delight.
I think Bailey was a "take" for obvious reasons...I think Pruitt desires to run traditional offense, dominant run, with better passing execution. I think Pruitt took Holiday because he's seeing how the NFL game is changing with guys like Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray, and covering his bases with him to be able to pivot and give him options with a running QB, if our OL truly turns out to be dominant. Our optimal situation is for JG to play better. If he doesn't, that means we're probably going to lose a game or two in the process of figuring out who the next man up is. One would think another full year under Chaney is a good thing, but can't say JG progressed last year towards consistency needed to 100% be "the guy".I'm neither a well-informed football scout nor a qualified QB evaluator. I'm just a smuck who thinks he knows more than he does and admits he doesn't.
Just the same, mulling over the game highlights of our two freshmen QBs I'm concluding that:
Harrison Bailey will be more like a Casey Clausen version QB. Very few have the sheer ball brilliance of Peyton Manning but he should be one heck of a QB just the same. Perhaps even a Brett Favre type gunslinger.
Jimmy Holiday, if he does play QB is more in the mold of Joshua Dobbs but has a predisposed tendency to run than passing the ball. Or a Lynn Bowden but a far better passer.
Either one will make the Vols an exciting team to watch. Now, going even farther out on a limb, I think JG will be better under the continued tutelage of Chaney. BUT he will win more games for what is surely an odd and hard to accept take for most of you. I insist that for whatever reason, from the get-go, JG, a dual-threat QB was discouraged from running. It seems that shackle is now lifted and we'll see a version of him thus far unseen and it will translate into wins.
Now, before jumping down my throat, remember my first sentence above. Beyond that, well just:
I think Bailey was a "take" for obvious reasons...I think Pruitt desires to run traditional offense, dominant run, with better passing execution. I think Pruitt took Holiday because he's seeing how the NFL game is changing with guys like Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray, and covering his bases with him to be able to pivot and give him options with a running QB, if our OL truly turns out to be dominant. Our optimal situation is for JG to play better. If he doesn't, that means we're probably going to lose a game or two in the process of figuring out who the next man up is. One would think another full year under Chaney is a good thing, but can't say JG progressed last year towards consistency needed to 100% be "the guy".
I think by midseason there could be a two platoon quarterback system going with Jarrett Guarantano and Harrison BaileyHigh School is over …….SEC is more competition than all high school teams he played against combined , not going to try prop JG up with HS video, I want see a true
QB competition everyone get chance win job and not given to someone b/c he 's 5th yr sr...……….
We don't know that as we've yet to see it. However, I think we might have seen what's possible during the USCjr and Gator Bowl games. With JG it's less about being elusive than picking up yardage instead of a sack. To really know about his running we may need to look at video of him prior to coming to Tennessee.