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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
We signed Donovan Haslam (OL) three hours ago. Why post this is the real question?
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
You can't go into a season with 2 QBs. We've gotten some OL help and quite a few on D.

Did you do any research before posting?
 
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I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.

There is so much to justifiably disagree with here, but I’m just going to start with one simple question.

Think about all of the starters who went into the portal this year. Now if you had to guess, what percentage of those starters do you think are leaving because they’re in a “bad situation”?
 
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I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.
Best post I've read on this forum in a long, long time.........
 
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Someone is clueless and obviously has not been paying attention the last week. Go check one of the portal sites and you will see all the players UT has signed. They have now covered every need they had. The only thing they might need is another DT or 2. They are still working on a couple and had a UF guy on campus today. There is still time to keep adding players as needed. Don't believe they are finished.
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
QBs sometimes get injured.
 
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I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.
Spot on!!!!!!

Folks stop crying about what was inevitable and should have happened decades ago. Are you loyal to your job if there’s another company willing to pay you double? If not then shut it bc your a hypocrite.
 
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Some of these threads make me laugh, this topic has been beaten to death over and over. This is the way things are going to be now, absolutely nothing we can do about it.

Refer to @Hairy Vols reply for the answers in which you seek.

@Volanta has a valid point…no need to lie because I certainly would. So I can’t blame these younger guys for anything, if they believe it’s helping them, then by all means chase it. I’d say a majority of us, at some point in life have left a job for a salary increase of some sorts.

Anyways, Go Vols!
 
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This is NOT the death of college football, lol.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. College Football as we knew it just a decade ago is gone forever. Yes you can make cases where that is bad or good. Yes, those good Ol boys paid players under the table. But the unregulation of handing Pro Wanna BEs with money and NO regulations, NO guidelines, and they can walk anytime is NOT College Football. IT is a NFL Minor League. Now you BIG Money Alumni can dump it in as they want. How much do you think Indiana Alum Mark Cuban has kicked in!

As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow

BS..............how many thousand across the US have "declared". And by the by, what happens to the players that declare and dont get picked up?? If Tennessee were to win only 5-6 games next year, will the Fan Base laud those few that stayed, grind and grew??

THINGS ARENT WHAT THEY USED TO BE.....................AND PROBABLY NEVER WERE!
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!



😂😂😂
 
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WHY in the wide world of Sports do we have the impression that a QB is what is needed??
How bout an OL. QBs value goes down hill if he is on his back.
How bout an RB. Ground Yardage will make a QB look good. The Scheme becomes a little easier.
How bout a Defense........corners, LBs, etc. Yes, Defense does Win Championships..........can you say Al Wilson.

So if today UT Nilled the world famous recruit 15 Star Peyton Manning and passed on Tee Martin, we would be set?

Yes it does take A Team and a staff to Win Anything. The QB is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit and to be fair........too much discredit.
Tennessee 2026 Season will not be made by whoever the QB is.

And here is the Fun Part. It starts over again in 27, 28, and on and on. Welcome to the NFL College Minor League, all of this Bidding for the QB will be an annual thing!!
I agree this is so ridiculous Heupel recruited Gmac so just roll with him, he's a smart talented kid.
 
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I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.
Big difference in the coaches are that, if they leave before their contract is up they have a buyout clause that has to be paid. Up to now players are other schools are not paying anything if a player leaves before their contract is over. Imo if a player signs a 2 or 3 year nil contract there needs to be a clause that if they leave before then there would have to be a buyout of the contract. This would help out very much.
 
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I also don't feel like typing something to this effect again, on another thread. So I'm going to copy and past what I said to someone else below:


I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money. The money just stopped being hidden. Players have been chasing dollars since at least the first major TV deals, and honestly even before that. The NCAA only centralized TV control in 1951, and once the Supreme Court blew that model up in 1984 with NCAA v. Board of Regents, college football officially became a market driven sport. That case directly led to conferences negotiating their own TV deals, which is why the SEC alone distributed over 800 million dollars to its schools last year. That money explosion did not come from loyalty or tradition. It came from tv and profit..


The idea that players used to be loyal but suddenly became mercenaries ignores how one sided the system was for decades. Coaches could leave whenever they wanted. Schools could cut players, process rosters, or pull scholarships. Players, meanwhile, were trapped. The “loyalty” you are referencing is closer to the loyalty someone has when they are stuck in a cage. If a player transferred, they sat out a year. That year could cost them film, development, and sometimes their entire career. That was not loyalty. That was a prisoner.


Now players have agency. They can leave bad situations, broken promises, coaching changes, or depth charts that shift overnight. They do not have to waste one of their limited years just to protect a system that never protected them. The average college football career is around three years. The NFL window is even smaller. Forcing someone to sit out was not about character. It was about control.


And the idea that everyone is cashing out is just not true. The portal is huge, yes, but most players are not getting rich. The median NIL deal is around $1,500 a year. A few stars skew the numbers upward, but the majority are getting gas money, meals, or local endorsements. Even with thousands entering the portal, a large percentage do not end up in a better situation financially or competitively. This is not some gold rush where every starter gets paid. It is a handful of names at the top and a lot of regular guys trying to find the best place to play.


As for development and team bonds, those still exist. They are built in locker rooms, practices, and games, not by rules that punish movement. Tennessee still has players who stay, grind, and grow. The difference now is that staying is a choice, not a threat backed by NCAA punishment.


This is NOT the death of college football, lol. This sport has been an unregulated professional pipeline for decades. The only real change is that players finally get a small slice of the value they generate. If there is anger to be had, it should be aimed at the lack of structure and leadership at the NCAA and conference level, not at players for doing exactly what coaches, schools, conferences, and networks have always done.

I'm NGL brother I am so sick of these threads. Saying the same thing... over and over and over.
Great post! Most people seem to value their own liberty, but many do not value the liberty of others.
 
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Big difference in the coaches are that, if they leave before their contract is up they have a buyout clause that has to be paid. Up to now players are other schools are not paying anything if a player leaves before their contract is over. Imo if a player signs a 2 or 3 year nil contract there needs to be a clause that if they leave before then there would have to be a buyout of the contract. This would help out very much.
NIL contracts are not through the school like a coaching contract. They are through independent parties (I think, correct me if I am wrong please).
 
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I get why this makes you sad, but being upset about this is about the same as being upset when you find out Santa is not real. College football did not suddenly become about money.
This whole post says it all as well as I’ve seen it said. I don’t really have anything to add to it, so here’s a picture of Eric Dickerson’s gold Trans Am from SMU in 1979.
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