QB Justin Worley commitment

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volwarrior33 said:
Dooley lucked into Da'Rick Rogers, Raijon Neal, and Eddrick Loften then.
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Considering how many big time schools are going after these athletes a little luck is probably involved... Well lets hope it's luck and not a side contract.
 
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VolInMusicCity said:
Great point.

While I certainly try to keep Kiffin's girlfriends in check on this board when they try to convince us about how great the good ole days of 7-6 were it is time to move forward.

Everytime we get a new commit we don't need to start comparing and contrasting DD and LK's recruiting successes/failures etc. However, sadly, I am confident this will continue.
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I agree with parts of this. The point isn't to say what Dooley did in comparison to Kiffin. The point is to see what Dooley can do, and hope he fills the depth chart quickly.

And just because we don't blindly hate Kiffin doesn't mean we're sucking him off. We just understand that he did good things for UT, then was offered a job that more than doubled his salary.
 
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Why does every commit have to be evidence that Dooley is the right guy for the job or an upgrade from Kiffin? Why can't it just be a good pickup?

And FTR, I think this is a great one. Worley shouldn't and probably won't finish as a 3-star.
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PayingUTKTuition said:
NBC Sports - College Football - Inside the Irish

"Worley's the top quarterback on Notre Dame's board, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Irish either locked in Worley or took a pass on quarterbacks in this class all together. Regardless of how quarterback friendly an offense is, it's going to be tough to sign a national recruit when you've got a crowded depth chart like Notre Dame's. "
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I just have a hard time believing that he was the #1 QB on their board, yet Kelly couldn't find the time to meet with him over a 3 day period. Was it just bad timing on Worley's part...was Kelly out of town?
 
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crusse10 said:
I agree with parts of this. The point isn't to say what Dooley did in comparison to Kiffin. The point is to see what Dooley can do, and hope he fills the depth chart quickly.

And just because we don't blindly hate Kiffin doesn't mean we're sucking him off. We just understand that he did good things for UT, then was offered a job that more than doubled his salary.
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He would left even if they only matched his salary here. He was, is, and always will be a left coast guy. USC was his dream job. All the cards fell in the right place for him to leave. People that can't see that are quite ignorant...
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Then you would be completely wrong.

For example, many have been saying for a while that Mr. Obama is not fit to run the country and have continued to say it to this day, myself included. However, just because I believed from the beginning and as time goes on proves to be true in no way means I "want" him to fail. Because him failing is bad for everyone, to say that haters are excited because they were/are right and he is ruining this country is absurd.

Just because someone says negative things about Dooley and thinks he will fail doesn't mean they want him too so they say "I told you so," and be right. I would guess that less than 5% feel that way.
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The original statement doesn't say that haters want CDD to fail. It says the haters can't lose no matter what happens. If Dooley fails, the get to look "cool" and say "I told you so". If he succeeds they get the satisfaction of their team being successful.

I still say I agree with that statemnent.
 
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PrimeTime said:
Bray, but my point is Kiffin wouldn't have offered Bray if he got a guy like Chase Rettig. Kiffin just got lucky with Bray.
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Doubtful. He'd have still made a run at Bray. At that point we had Nick Stephens and Nick Lamaison on the depth chart. We needed more bodies regardless.
 
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HARTUPM said:
I dont think it will honestly. I mean... I think it's big, especailly for recruiting momentum, but I think the "star lovers" will wine about it and find something negative to say or comment on:crazy:. I for one am happy about Worley commiting. Better a little late than never, right? With losing Crompton, Coleman, and Stephens we need the dept at QB badly.
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crusse10 said:
Lather, rinse, repeat. Anyone Kiffin got was luck, but anyone Dooley gets is skill. Kiffin shot for the top and couldn't get them. He got us Bray, and we were excited. He left, and it turned into him getting lucky. Face the facts. Kiffin got us a great QB who can start this year.
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You didn't follow recruiting last year, so i'll excuse you. We missed on all our top QB targets. Luckily everyone already had their Qb when Bray's stock started to rise.
 
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VKAman said:
Why does every commit have to be evidence that Dooley is the right guy for the job or an upgrade from Kiffin? Why can't it just be a good pickup?

And FTR, I think this is a great one. Worley shouldn't and probably won't finish as a 3-star.
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Hubbs doesn't expect his ranking to change much if at all.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
He would left even if they only matched his salary here. He was, is, and always will be a left coast guy. USC was his dream job. All the cards fell in the right place for him to leave. People that can't see that are quite ignorant...
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Very true. It just sucks that the NCAA sanctions happened 1 year after he came to Knoxville. Pete's last year was gonna be the year before the NCAA made it rain on USC. Had the investigation not been completed until 2015, we'd have had 5+ years of Kiffin, then he'd have left for USC.
 
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crusse10 said:
I agree with parts of this. The point isn't to say what Dooley did in comparison to Kiffin. The point is to see what Dooley can do, and hope he fills the depth chart quickly.

And just because we don't blindly hate Kiffin doesn't mean we're sucking him off. We just understand that he did good things for UT, then was offered a job that more than doubled his salary.
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+1

he (Kiffin) gave us our swagger back... now i think with Dooley most of don't know to be excited, patient, or what.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
He would left even if they only matched his salary here. He was, is, and always will be a left coast guy. USC was his dream job. All the cards fell in the right place for him to leave. People that can't see that are quite ignorant...
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I wonder how he likes that dream job now?
 
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Volinnooga said:
The original statement doesn't say that haters want CDD to fail. It says the haters can't lose no matter what happens. If Dooley fails, the get to look "cool" and say "I told you so". If he succeeds they get the satisfaction of their team being successful.

I still say I agree with that statemnent.
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Implying that they would think they "looked cool" and would get joy out of saying, "I told you so," comes off as saying they want him to fail so they can do these things.

Wrong again.
 
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volwarrior33 said:
Obviously, but June is not the time you need to be accepting commitments from Andrew Power. Focus on difference makers and get as many as you can. If you can't do that, then you can accept the Andrew Powers, Gooches, Greg Clarks, Dontavis Sapps, etc.
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crusse10 said:
I agree with parts of this. The point isn't to say what Dooley did in comparison to Kiffin. The point is to see what Dooley can do, and hope he fills the depth chart quickly.

And just because we don't blindly hate Kiffin doesn't mean we're sucking him off. We just understand that he did good things for UT, then was offered a job that more than doubled his salary.
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Glad we can occasionally, somewhat, agree on something. :eek:k:

My feelings for Kiffin aren't blind. However, I certainly know that some peoples hate does blind their feelings on Kiffin. I think he could have got us in the right direction. As you and I have discussed before, we will just never know for sure because he did some good things (UGA comes to mind) and did some bad things (UCLA comes to mind). We will never know what might have been so to say things like "he would have won the SEC in the next 3 years" or "he would have won more titles than Phil" etc is just baseless, factless, and really a pointless conjecture.

But we can definitely agree that people need to stop bringing him up everytime DD gets a new commit or hires a new staff member or takes a walk down the street.
 
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