QB job is Keller Chryst's to lose going into 2nd scrimmage

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sjt18 said:
My best guess is that JG didn't make good pre-snap reads. Maybe part of that was them limiting him. But he looked like someone who was trying to figure everything out after the snap. Again the best comparison contrast I can think of is Simms vs Bray a few years back. Simms was sacked repeatedly. Bray was hardly ever sacked behind the exact same OL with the same receivers.

Pre-snap reads is kind of a Sun Tzu deal. Know neither yourself nor your adversary... there's no hope. Know yourself but not your adversary... complete victory is unlikely. Know yourself and your adversary... victory is assured.

JG needs to have spent hours upon hours in the film room and in his playbook this summer. The playbook should be as familiar as the back of his hand. Recognizing defensive alignments and the problems/opportunities they present should be 2nd nature. Bray had a knack for looking at a D just before the snap and knowing what his best two options were going to be even if that wasn't the order of his check downs. If JG has gotten closer to that level then UT will be much better.

PS- Bray was doing this as a true Fr. We're hoping JG will master it in his 3rd year.
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I don't think a lot of college coaches even try to teach QB's to read defenses anymore. They put a good athlete on the field and then the basic direction is "Check with Us Pre-snap". The coach in the box reads the defense calls down to the field and they signal in the play. In a passing situation there's one "live" receiver and a check down. The QB throws the ball if the receiver is open. If not he looks at the check down if that's covered he either throws it away or tries to make a play with his legs. Kiffin pretty much said that was how he managed Alabama's QB's while he was the OC. That's pretty much how Jones managed Dobbs. That's why so few college QB's arrive in the NFL ready to play. Also the reason WR's don't hustle or run good routes. They're getting the play pre-snap play call too so if their numbers not called many times they're going 1/2 speed. Sure helps an aware safety know where the balls going - to the only guy running all out.

What JG really needs is pocket presence or a real sense of the pressure. Good QB's buy time by simply stepping up or away from the pressure by only taking a step or 2 and keeping their eyes down the field. Too often JG either left the pocket when he still had time, often stepping right into a rusher when the OL had a reasonable block or stood there like a statue and took a lick when a simple stutter step would have avoided the rusher. Part of a QB's job is keeping his OL between himself and a defender. You could put a barrel on the field and Dobbs and Baker Mayfield could keep an OL at bay for 10 seconds just stepping around the barrel. (Hyperbole to make a point) Anyway if JG can stay in the pocket upright long enough to deliver the ball either to the primary receiver, the check down, or by running or throwing the ball away and avoid a negative play he'll have made consequential progress over last year. He needs to do all that in 3 seconds or less.
 
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1974Vol said:
I don't think a lot of college coaches even try to teach QB's to read defenses anymore. They put a good athlete on the field and then the basic direction is "Check with Us Pre-snap". The coach in the box reads the defense calls down to the field and they signal in the play. In a passing situation there's one "live" receiver and a check down. The QB throws the ball if the receiver is open. If not he looks at the check down if that's covered he either throws it away or tries to make a play with his legs. Kiffin pretty much said that was how he managed Alabama's QB's while he was the OC. That's pretty much how Jones managed Dobbs. That's why so few college QB's arrive in the NFL ready to play. Also the reason WR's don't hustle or run good routes. They're getting the play pre-snap play call too so if their numbers not called many times they're going 1/2 speed. Sure helps an aware safety know where the balls going - to the only guy running all out.

What JG really needs is pocket presence or a real sense of the pressure. Good QB's buy time by simply stepping up or away from the pressure by only taking a step or 2 and keeping their eyes down the field. Too often JG either left the pocket when he still had time, often stepping right into a rusher when the OL had a reasonable block or stood there like a statue and took a lick when a simple stutter step would have avoided the rusher. Part of a QB's job is keeping his OL between himself and a defender. You could put a barrel on the field and Dobbs and Baker Mayfield could keep an OL at bay for 10 seconds just stepping around the barrel. (Hyperbole to make a point) Anyway if JG can stay in the pocket upright long enough to deliver the ball either to the primary receiver, the check down, or by running or throwing the ball away and avoid a negative play he'll have made consequential progress over last year. He needs to do all that in 3 seconds or less.
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I agree.. but this is an instinct that you cannot teach.. it comes natural.. I hope he gets it.. I really do but these issues are the same issues why I believe KC starts. He just seems more like a game manager which is what we need. someone mature to make good decisions..and move the ball downfield. If we start JG and he is the same JG as last year.. and KC takes over...It will be KC starting every game.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
DP what are your people saying about JG as far as improvement? Is he going to be a good QB or just better than his competition?
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He's improved mostly because he feels confident that he knows what he's doing. Last year was a trainwreck partially because Larry Scott knew how to call plays, but not design an offense that everyone was confident and comfortable in. That means a player will be more decisive with the football, which will alleviate the perception of holding the ball too long.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
He's improved mostly because he feels confident that he knows what he's doing. Last year was a trainwreck partially because Larry Scott knew how to call plays, but not design an offense that everyone was confident and comfortable in. That means a player will be more decisive with the football, which will alleviate the perception of holding the ball too long.
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Do you think Helton is the real deal?
 
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GrudenVol5th said:
Only thing I know is this...if JG starts and I see him hold on to the ball too long and get sacked, I want Pruitt to pull him before he can even hit the ground
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Guarantano will be vastly improved this season. When you look back at some of the sacks he took there was simply no one open to throw the ball to and the offensive line was terrible. When you have two quarterbacks that were both highly coveted recruits that struggle the way Dormady and jg did last year it tells you that the offense was garbage. Larry Scott had never called plays before or designed an offense and you could tell. Remember the 09 season after the clawfense, and how much better the same guys looked playing under kiffin in a system that everyone understood? Look for the same type of improvement this year.
 
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