QB controversy in the making?

#159
#159
JabberWocky said:
Maybe you don't know how to read... Maybe you're special.. i dunno. Show me where I've said Simms was better.

I've said Simms is "as good".. which is probably true but can't be backed up by any facts because that is my opinion. Nobody (no matter how big your e-peen is) knows who's better until Bray faces the same type D's that Simms faced.

The only thing I've ever said is that Simms is not ANYWHERE near as good as the majority of this board seems to blindly believe.
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I agree Simms is no good. Thank you for confirming this.
 
#160
#160
JabberWocky said:
I've said Simms is "as good".. which is probably true but can't be backed up by any facts because that is my opinion. Nobody (no matter how big your e-peen is) knows who's better until Bray faces the same type D's that Simms faced.

The only thing I've ever said is that Simms is not ANYWHERE near as good as the majority of this board seems to blindly believe.
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You meant Bray in that last paragraph right?

No. We know that Bray has more talent but not that he is better now or ever will be. What we can say pretty comfortably is that Simms isn't very good.
 
#161
#161
hohenfelsvol said:
Most popular player on teams who struggle is the backup QB.
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Yeah I seem to remember quite a few crompton fans when ainge had bad games. Wonder where they all went cromptons junior and senior years.
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#162
#162
parkay32 said:
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Did you say that last year when he was winning games
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My opinion is TB will be a decent QB and the best UT has now but you can't look at last years games to prove anything. Fact is TB played against inferior competition with Simms being thrown to the wolves against the better teams. You could be the best QB on the team and get beat by Fla, Usce, Ga and Bama and be the worst QB on the team and beat Vandy, Ky and the rest of the cream puffs that TB played against. We'll see how good TB is when he has to play against the teams in the 1st half of next years schedule not the creampuffs on the 2nd half of the schedule.
 
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#163
Didn't TB look good against USCe and UG? Didn't USCe win the east. Yes the first half of the season will tell a lot. I trust the coaches and they trust TB,
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#164
#164
I predicted the Worley Wagon would be Wollin' by Game 4. I didn't expect it to get the horses saddled up after the O&W game!

Bray has A LOT to prove this year. How he handles that pressure will determine what kind of future QB he will turn out to be. And he needs his sophomore receivers to step up just as much.
 
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#165
Tnrdgerunr said:
My opinion is TB will be a decent QB and the best UT has now but you can't look at last years games to prove anything. Fact is TB played against inferior competition with Simms being thrown to the wolves against the better teams. You could be the best QB on the team and get beat by Fla, Usce, Ga and Bama and be the worst QB on the team and beat Vandy, Ky and the rest of the cream puffs that TB played against. We'll see how good TB is when he has to play against the teams in the 1st half of next years schedule not the creampuffs on the 2nd half of the schedule.
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I've been a little concerned about the same things. But, I also believe he can do it if he realizes he's not made it yet and he needs to work hard. Just like in the spring game he worked his mouth more before the game than his arm. However, what he endured during and after the game may motivate him to work and study harder than ever.......Let's hope so.....:crossfingers:
 
#166
#166
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
You keep telling yourself that about the SEC.


If you guys combined all the talent off the various teams in the SEC you could then play with the 2nd string at USC.
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Just wondering where USC has been while the SEC has won the last five National Championships. Before you say they won it in 2004, lets not forget that an undefeated Auburn team was left out of that title game and since that point USC has been stripped of two of its wins from that season, therefore leaving Auburn as the only undefeated team from the 2004 season. Ok, they were in the 2005 NC game, too? Not only did they lose to Texas in the NC game, they were stripped of all the wins from 2005 making that a joke, too. Go ahead and roll you another one.
 
#167
#167
manfromtn said:
Just wondering where USC has been while the SEC has won the last five National Championships. Before you say they won it in 2004, lets not forget that an undefeated Auburn team was left out of that title game and since that point USC has been stripped of two of its wins from that season, therefore leaving Auburn as the only undefeated team from the 2004 season. Ok, they were in the 2005 NC game, too? Not only did they lose to Texas in the NC game, they were stripped of all the wins from 2005 making that a joke, too. Go ahead and roll you another one.
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THIS.....:thumbsup:
 
#168
#168
utgibbs said:
Bray has A LOT to prove this year. How he handles that pressure will determine what kind of future QB he will turn out to be. And he needs his sophomore receivers to step up just as much.
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I agree. He showed glimpses last year. Its obvious he has legit talent but if I'm a fan I would be worried about his mindset, focus and dedication to become the very best QB he possibly can.

People expecting him to make a Peyton type of freshman to sophomore jump are nuts IMO. It's just not a realistic expectation, at least for me.

They come across as complete opposites as far as their work ethic on and off the field goes.
 
#170
#170
Talked to the weight training coach and he is very happy with Tyler and he was student athlete of the month last month so he seems to be working hard
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#171
#171
kohlrums said:
What else are they going to say-he sucks?

Some people want him benched now, others throw out 5/30 as meaningless.

5/30 is 5/30, wind or no wind. It wasn't pretty. Should there be an open competition-probably not. But, I think some more pressure needs to be added to Bray on what he needs to do in order to get better. And the best defense he faced last year was UNC, and he threw 3 picks. On the other hand-the fact that Worley looked the part can only be seen as good, because if Bray struggles then at least there is someone there with talent to go in.
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Agree with you.
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#172
#172
manfromtn said:
Just wondering where USC has been while the SEC has won the last five National Championships. Before you say they won it in 2004, lets not forget that an undefeated Auburn team was left out of that title game and since that point USC has been stripped of two of its wins from that season, therefore leaving Auburn as the only undefeated team from the 2004 season. Ok, they were in the 2005 NC game, too? Not only did they lose to Texas in the NC game, they were stripped of all the wins from 2005 making that a joke, too. Go ahead and roll you another one.
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Why are you humoring this guy with a response?

The ignore feature is your friend.
 
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#174
Montrell Hardy said:
People expecting him to make a Peyton type of freshman to sophomore jump are nuts IMO. It's just not a realistic expectation, at least for me.
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Stop it with the Peyton already. He's probably the best NFL quarterback ever. But he was barely in the top 30 all-time of college quarterbacks.

I'm expecting much much more out of Bray, like beating Florida.
 
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