Pruitts qb reasoning? (Lengthy)

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1vol8 said:
We gotta start learning to put 2and 2 together on this one guys. As we all know practices are closed to the media and public. There’s a reason for that. So we only know what they WANT us to know. We know what we’re being spoon fed and we except it as truth. Although personally we’ve all gotten to witness a spring game with all involved that’s mandatory and 1 full game of nothing but JG.

Throughout spring and fall camp we’ve heard one narrative from our coach that promised us the best guys would play and the media that reports within guidelines (you can chose for yourself if you believe every word of what no one seen as complete truth).
That narrative is “The back ups are inconsistent.” And you would think JG is flawless. Believe what you wish but you can’t convince me JG hasn’t thrown erratically in practice nor can you convince me he hasn’t thrown ints. We’ve seen it in games. About two weeks ago CJP was quoted saying “the backups need to stop throwing the ball to the other team.” A few days later Weinke was quoted saying “they haven’t thrown many.”🤔. At this point we’ve seen JG perform twice. Both times he was as inconsistent as you would think any qb in the SEC could be. All of the same issues we all seen from last season, on display, once again, TWICE already in 2019.

In the spring game JG was as one point 2-9. That’s inconsistent. He struggled throughout the game with accuracy and finished just over 50%. That’s inconsistent. His TD pass to Palmer in the back of the end zone was contested with a wide open JJ underneath. That’s inconsistent or arguably consistently as bad as last year. He held the ball too long. Inconsistent. Took sacks. Inconsistent. In fact the ONLY “consistency” we PERSONALLY SEEN was BM. He started 5-5. Could’ve been 7-7 if not for a bobble OOB by a TE. He opened the second half with a bad mistake but responded with proof of a bad memory and the most beautiful throw of the day to J.Lowe. His second int is debatable if Keyton could’ve made that play and my answer is yes. But given what we all personally seen that day I have to ask if you would bet your paychecks that the white team comes out on top if JG and BM were the only 2 qbs? I know I would hesitate after seeing that.

Which brings me to my conclusion. This is a coaching tactic that’s backfired a bit. CJP has been using the media and himself to keep the competition for #2 as competitive as possible. All it’s done is create a false distrust in our backups with the fan base after seeing JGs performance. In fact I’d say they may be better in a lot of areas. The difference is experience and experience alone. Not talent. I think CJP knows that BM is our best chance to win OFFENSIVELY. But he’s a defensive minded coach. JGs style of play allows the game to have to be won DEFENSIVELY. Why else would you look at the top of the depth chart and see JG over BM for BYU after GAST? Pruitt wants to win with defense. And after looking at all the circumstances that’s the opinion I’ve come up with.
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OMG 😂
 
#28
#28
Can we stop putting it all on the D? Yes they gave up 38 to Ga St but they were also out there constantly because our O couldn’t move the ball and give them a decent break. Granted they should have played better but with the nonstop rotations no players could get a rhythm or read on the other team. It also doesn’t help that we have a veteran QB that still played like it was his first ever college game.

This was a complete team loss, not just the D, not just the O not just ST, not even just the coaches, this was all of them combining to put on the crappiest crapfest they possibly could and sadly it didn’t look like any of them cared at all.
 
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I don't think it is nearly that complex. JG probably performs better in practice. He should. This is his 4th year in CFB. If Pruitt has any ulterior motive in that regard it is the fear that Bailey might take a second look if it appears Shrout or Maurer are establishing themselves as the starter.

The problem with JG isn't what he does in practice. It is his decisions when in the heat of battle. In part, he is so fearful of turnovers and "mistakes" that he won't take any chances. He won't try to lead receivers open. He takes the safest throw when a slightly more risky throw would produce more and keep drives going. The defensive strategy isn't going to change until JG makes MUCH better decisions which doesn't seem all that likely at this point OR he's replaced which also doesn't seem very likely.
 
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JG isn't very good in reads, reaction, or leadership but I suspect he's the best we have right now. He would be servicable if the team around him was decent. Mainly offensive and defensive lines. More than anything in the Ga St game, the coaching was atrocious.
 
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DonDiego said:
JG isn't very good in reads, reaction, or leadership but I suspect he's the best we have right now. He would be servicable if the team around him was decent. Mainly offensive and defensive lines. More than anything in the Ga St game, the coaching was atrocious.
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I've always thought he'd be a good game manager type on a good team but he doesn't really make anybody better.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think it is nearly that complex. JG probably performs better in practice. He should. This is his 4th year in CFB. If Pruitt has any ulterior motive in that regard it is the fear that Bailey might take a second look if it appears Shrout or Maurer are establishing themselves as the starter.

The problem with JG isn't what he does in practice. It is his decisions when in the heat of battle. In part, he is so fearful of turnovers and "mistakes" that he won't take any chances. He won't try to lead receivers open. He takes the safest throw when a slightly more risky throw would produce more and keep drives going. The defensive strategy isn't going to change until JG makes MUCH better decisions which doesn't seem all that likely at this point OR he's replaced which also doesn't seem very likely.
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I’ve thought about the Bailey thing as well. In fact I may or may not have been ridiculed for posting the exact same thought.
 
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It's real simple, this team/ program needs a spark. If that means bringing a freshman in at QB and giving the starter time to reevaluate what his goal is do it. Chaney seems to work well with freshman, if he's allowed to call his game.
 
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1vol8 said:
Its not about an argument for the back up. It’s about the false belief that our backups are even worse than what we’ve seen from JG. That’s simply not true.
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You don’t know it to not be true. You are just speculating.
 
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GAVol said:
So, an upper classman plays while freshmen sit. It's the way things work; especially at QB.
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Not really. JG is a cancer, but Maurer/Shrout have to win the spot. I'm guessing the staff would love nothing more than for one of those guys to beat out JG. Hopefully one of them do it sooner rather than later.
 
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k-town_king said:
It's simple. He is much better than the other two.

65% with 300 yards isn't getting a qb benched. Lmao
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He was 4/5 against GSU in prevent at the end of the game. This "great" performance was against a D that allowed 311 ypg passing last fall ranked 106 in the nation.

Their D strategy was pretty obvious. They played close to the LOS and dared UT to throw. Their calculation was that JG would get some yardage but that his decisions would stop drives. They did. You can persist in denial. That's your right. But unless he just suddenly "wakes up"... this is the same thing that's kept him from being effective in the past- DECISION MAKING. He was also responsible for at least 3 of the turnovers. Two of those were failures to read the D.

I mean seriously. How many years in college football does a QB need to have before knowing that a safety bailing out to cover an outside receiver post snap means a corner blitz is coming?

If the rest of UT's players were good enough for the QB to simply be a role player... maybe it would work. They aren't. They need someone who can manage the O AND make plays. Unless he suddenly wakes up... the O will not be effective as long as he's the starter.


PS- I know what playing one of the young QB's likely means. There would be mistakes. There would be a learning curve. It will likely result in losses.

It is a tough decision to make but JG doesn't seem to have improved. I really hoped he had.
 
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Volunt33rs said:
His t/o's and play easily costed 17 points conservatively, putting 17 points easily against us on pts off turnovers. and his awful play with 0 talent missing anything open cant throw over 5 yards staring receivers down getting sacked not calling audibles no pump fakes the list goes on and on and on and on and on,, caused 49+ points to not be scored, Dobbs would have put 60 on these kids. we aren't going to win with him throwing passes @ 3 yards too hard he's near retarded the defense is bad but they play worse when they see a circus clown as their QB playing like a middle schooler out there... may have been the worse QB performance in UT history if you take out OUTLIERS like petermens 2 games
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Hmmm you do realize JG was 7.8 Y/A right? You are comparing him to Dobbs? Using actual stats, how was his play terrible? Remember using stats, not your feelings.
 
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Yall want to put in either A, a three star true freshman, or B a three star RS freshman that had 25 ints as a high school senior because the qb had 300 yards and hit 65%?

We have some real dummies here. 🤣🤣🤣
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hmmm you do realize JG was 7.8 Y/A right? You are comparing him to Dobbs? Using actual stats, how was his play terrible? Remember using stats, not your feelings.
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60 QBR, 1 Real TD, 2 Turnovers by him.

Slides instead of running for 1st down -> GA state resumes possession and scores.

Delusional
 
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k-town_king said:
Yall want to put in either A, a three star true freshman, or B a three star RS freshman that had 25 ints as a high school senior because the qb had 300 yards and hit 65%?

We have some real dummies here. 🤣🤣🤣
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I’ll give you his numbers against the nations best 4-5* qbs of his class. Feel free to compare and get back to me and let me know if you still believe that’s all he is. AACE7AD3-B8C0-4520-8E17-FCF7CB46E744.jpeg
 
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