Pruitt's players

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mudhen

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I am genuinely curious and not trying to be sarcastic here. How many of the starters are still Butch recruits?
 
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I understand what you are saying OP, but how many players does Mullen have that are McElwain?..........and they're the #9 team in the country. I have to think that good coaches (which we are apparently paying out the ying-yang for) find ways to win. I just cant believe that all of our players are that poor. If they've given up, you need to show them the door.
 
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Look man we've been hearing this since Fulmer was canned. Next guy needs time to get his players in place. Next guy,the current ones aren't buying into the system. Next guy, the current ones while they are 4's and 5's on paper they really aren't that good. Next guy, you cant go by the rankings, blah, blah, blah.

We have one of the best OC's in the bizz, a Heisman winning QB coach, a National Champion passing game coordinator.
It's beyond me how they can't devise an offense that can work with the current players ability to at least be competitive/ stay in the game.

We have a HC that is known as one of the best DC's in the bizz yet time after time the secondary get's touched and the LB's are running around like the clown car at the circus.

Again the team should at least look like they have played a game or two in their lifetimes.

I see one common denominator, the leader of the pack.

You have to hire the right guy to get the job done, apparently the powers that be have no idea how to do that.
 
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You people that want to put all the blame on one person or even one area of the team don't understand the issues that can pile up and create a dumpster fire. You also don't understand that the more issues there are and the deeper they stem it takes exponentially more time to fix. Is it a guarantee this administration and staff can fix it all? No, absolutely not. But they are getting paid large sums to do so and they have to be given the time to fix it all.

Btw, it's not just that we have Butch's players. It's the attitude of those players. They're not winners, meaning they're not used to winning. That means something. Also, cancer (I don't like the term but can't think of a better one) spreads when you have bad attitudes in the locker room. If your best friend has been passed over and is mad and making all kinds of claims then maybe you buy into that...and so on. It's called dissension and dissension is dangerous and very, very hard to fix. There's many more issues too. JG seemingly progressed a ton from last year from what the staff saw in camp, practice, etc. However, he's laid an egg (all mental). How do you fix that? I get replacing him but they you have more problems.

There's just too many problems to point fingers and hope it will be instantly fixed.
 
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Zues1 said:
We have one of the best OC's in the bizz, a Heisman winning QB coach, a National Champion passing game coordinator.
It's beyond me how they can't devise an offense that can work with the current players ability to at least be competitive/ stay in the game.
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Doesn't matter how good the game plan is, if you have a QB that can't execute, he's going to make them all look like idiots.
 
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mudhen said:
I am genuinely curious and not trying to be sarcastic here. How many of the starters are still Butch recruits?
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DEFENSE:
Warrior, Taylor, Bituli, Ignont, Shamburger, Blakely, Butler, Gooden (injured), Bennett, Bumphus, Reid

OFFENSE:
Palmer, Callaway, Chandler, JG, Pope, Brandon Johnson, Cimaglia, T. Smith, Locklear, Tatum, R. Johnson, Calbert, J. Johnson #58, Fant

Those, as far as I can tell, are the guys who play the most on the field.

We're still dominated by Lyle's guys....and truthfully--Lyle's guys are good enough at the skill positions--Chandler, JJ, Callaway, Palmer, and Johnson are good enough at WR...
The 2-deep on OL is dominated by Lyle's guys....but we started Morris at LT, Kennedy at C, and D. Wright at right guard--all 3 are CJP's guys with 2 being TRUE FR.
And for the most part--the FR have held their own so far.

THE glaring problem in the games is the starting QB...he just can't play the position and get the ball to our open WRs in space when the bullets are live.

Maurer didn't play that well Saturday--but he did give us a spark and moved our offense down the field for a FG. He did miss badly on a few throws down the sideline out of bounds.
But what is not being said is that Maurer didn't play WORSE than JG. Yes, he did throw into triple coverage---but JG misread what CJP called trap coverage and threw an INT there, too.

Play Maurer....with Shrout as the backup.

We're paying JABBA 1.5 million per year---if he is worth that money he ought to be able to find a way to get Maurer into plays that suit his strengths in the playbook.
 
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How many coaches were passed over that could take Butch's recruits and be 3-1 right now? He has a team and needs to use that to win games. Maybe it's not optimal or exactly what he wants but that's what a good coach does. SEC coaches who lose to Sunbelt teams don't have the luxury of running off players
 
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jerrync said:
Only if the players are willing to be coached!
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I agree. Not only that. Are they willing to put in the required work to improve? A coach can offer the information needed to improve. He can show you the way to improve. He can try and motivate you to improve. But, if you don't have pride in yourself and losing doesn't bother you then you are a loser! Plain and simple. You show me someone that doesn't mind losing and I will show you a loser. If I were coach Pruitt and I knew who those players were, they would not be on the field. I don't care if I had to play Freshmen and we were only one deep at some positions. I would play the walk ons before and would let a slacker were the Power T. It is past time to drop the hammer on those that don't put their heart and soul in to the program. There is NO MAGIC to improvement! It takes hard work and a deep desire to improve. You have to want it more than anyone else! GO VOLS!
 
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Zues1 said:
Look man we've been hearing this since Fulmer was canned. Next guy needs time to get his players in place. Next guy,the current ones aren't buying into the system. Next guy, the current ones while they are 4's and 5's on paper they really aren't that good. Next guy, you cant go by the rankings, blah, blah, blah.

We have one of the best OC's in the bizz, a Heisman winning QB coach, a National Champion passing game coordinator.
It's beyond me how they can't devise an offense that can work with the current players ability to at least be competitive/ stay in the game.

We have a HC that is known as one of the best DC's in the bizz yet time after time the secondary get's touched and the LB's are running around like the clown car at the circus.

Again the team should at least look like they have played a game or two in their lifetimes.

I see one common denominator, the leader of the pack.

You have to hire the right guy to get the job done, apparently the powers that be have no idea how to do that.
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Pruitt is HC, so yeah, he shoulders the blame. But I'm also convinced that a lot of our troubles rest on the QB position and the player filling that role. And yeah, we can blame that on Pruitt too, but we're in season with no obvious fixes. Playing inexperienced QBs is not normally the best option, but at this point, it may be the only option.
 
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The biggest problem I have is Pruitt keeps saying he plays the people that have the best week of practice. I have had teammates in the past that were great in practice but they choke in front of a crowd. Pruitt has had 4 games to asses game performance. If someone can't play a game up to their practice level, then they should not be starting. JMHO
 
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None of it matters. We need to find our own system. If we continue to try to emulate Bama we will continue to lose to them. We simply don’t have the university leadership that cares as much as they do down there.

We need to stop with the Bama coach recycle experiments and mid major car salesmen. Bring in a guy with a long proven history of winning at a high level. Look at coaching trees and success their coordinators have had elsewhere. Strong recruiting. It shouldn’t be this hard or take this long to rebuild at a place with the resources we have.
 
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Upperclassmen getting passed over by underclassmen creates dissension within the locker room. That will cause alliances and further divides throughout the team.
 
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MiramarVol said:
Upperclassmen getting passed over by underclassmen creates dissension within the locker room. That will cause alliances and further divides throughout the team.
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At least until the upperclassmen are gone. The risk of losing playing time should be obvious to players. Those who work the hardest, prepare the best, and perform the best will play regardless of their age. If there are players creating these “alliances” (as if it is some realty tv show), then they need to be shown the door. This season is a loss anyway, so let’s complete the transition away from the players who do not want to work hard or do not want to play for the current coaches.
 
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