Pruitt's buyout

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#102
Toss BM or JT out there. JG just doesn’t have it. I don’t know what the issue is. Rewatched some of the game and paid a lot of attention to him. He can’t read coverages. Can’t read safeties. Doesn’t even look at wide open guys. It’s bad. I actually liked some of Chaney’s calls. Felt he was trying to build momentum, but JG just isn’t capable.

The defense is completely sh#t. So the offense has got to pick it up. They need a spark. JG isn’t it. I’m not sure BM or JT are either, but I KNOW JG isn’t it.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Why does this make any sense. Pruitt is not going anywhere. You know Bama fans wanted Saban fired after a couple years. Pruitt had alot to clean up. JG is not a SEC type quarterback. (He is a Butch Jones guy). I am glad you fans don't hire and fire football coaches.
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If I were in charge of the hire we wouldn’t have the last 3 clowns, and no Lane either.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Why does this make any sense. Pruitt is not going anywhere. You know Bama fans wanted Saban fired after a couple years. Pruitt had alot to clean up. JG is not a SEC type quarterback. (He is a Butch Jones guy). I am glad you fans don't hire and fire football coaches.
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Saban was 12-0 heading into the SECCG in year two. No Bama fan I know wanted him fired.
 
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JustinVol said:
he was handed an eh team at most. Bama has a long time down too.
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Shula's last season was 6-7. We beat them by 3 points....last time we beat them BTW. They didn't get blown out by anybody. Lost 2 games be 2 scores...Florida and LSU. They beat their cupcakes soundly, and their other losses could have gone either way. That was 2006. They were 10-2 with losses to LSU by 3 points and Auburn by 10 points in 2005.
 
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JustinVol said:
Two years seems a bit rounded up. Sure 60 players are his recruits. They all should be starters in year 2?
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I'm not calling you out or even disagreeing but in today's game freshmen are used heavily even on loaded teams. Lots of people like to reference Bama and Saban so here's a little fact. They played 13 freshmen Saturday and are still going to be elite this year. 5 were starters and boat raced Cut and shut down his offense. Granted 2 were linebackers that were pushed into the role cause of injuries but they played excellent. If we got elite talent like we think, I mean look at all the BOOMS in the threads and the recruiting forum, and this coaching staff is as great as it's been touted all off season in this forum then yes we should be competitive (not with Bama or Georgia tho). At the minimum win by a couple of touchdowns against Georgia State. Look at how many freshmen have played in the championship game the past few years. This isn't your grandpa's football anymore
 
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I think 2021 is Pruitt's make or break season.

By then he will have his own players in his system.
 
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5 million is nothing to a 150 million a year business. A previous poster said charles Anderson was at practice today. 5 million to him is like a hundred bucks to us. The buyout looks bad but in reality it is nothing for UT and its boosters.
 
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Booker512 said:
Toss BM or JT out there. JG just doesn’t have it. I don’t know what the issue is. Rewatched some of the game and paid a lot of attention to him. He can’t read coverages. Can’t read safeties. Doesn’t even look at wide open guys. It’s bad. I actually liked some of Chaney’s calls. Felt he was trying to build momentum, but JG just isn’t capable.

The defense is completely sh#t. So the offense has got to pick it up. They need a spark. JG isn’t it. I’m not sure BM or JT are either, but I KNOW JG isn’t it.
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The defining play for me is him running by a blocking Trey Smith, who is putting his life on the line, only to slide down and not fight for a first down....
 
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rusty11 said:
Bama never sucked you know. They always had plenty of talent. We suck and have very little and it seems the best players we have get injured. Bama has 3 best players for every position. One goes down, the other steps up. When our best go down, a true Freshman 3 star has to step up, and then he gets hurt and never develops to his potential. Vicious cycle we seem to be stuck in.
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True... But, it wasn't like that when Saban arrived there.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Why does this make any sense. Pruitt is not going anywhere. You know Bama fans wanted Saban fired after a couple years. Pruitt had alot to clean up. JG is not a SEC type quarterback. (He is a Butch Jones guy). I am glad you fans don't hire and fire football coaches.
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Preach on, brother.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
Stands at five (5) million as of now.

UT Vols football: Two formulas for buyout in Pruitt's deal

Butch Jones' buyout was a little over eight (8) million.

Breaking down Butch Jones' contract buyout

Derek Dooley's buyout was five (5) million with total coaching buyouts totalling over nine (9) Million

Tennessee makes final buyout payment to Derek Dooley

Phillip Fulmer's buyout was six (6) million.

Fulmer to step aside as Tennessee coach

Boys, all we are is a get rich scheme for coaches. And, I doubt we are going to be firing Pruitt until the end of (next) football season.
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If he loses eight or more games this year he'll stand a better chance of being appointed Tzar of Russia than he will coaching the Vols in 2020.
 
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I don’t think it’s the buyout. It’s YEAR 2. If they are to fire him, it has to be justified. Losing his first game of the year, albeit to a high school team, isn’t enough. Now, if they lose to BYU the same way and barely beat UTC, I think everyone would say he deserves to go. The administration has to win in the court of the public, other coaches and media, not the fans. At that point, it’d be obvious that the problem is much bigger than talent and that he’s lost the team. I believe he’s done or said something that has pissed off some players and there’s a culture war going on inside the locker room. We just don’t know which side is winning yet.
 
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MurphyVol said:
My bet is 3-9 gets him canned.
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Anything less than a bowl game will likely turn out the lights for Pruitt... unless he pulls off a miracle and lands a top ten recruiting class. If this season starts out 1-3 after the Florida game he might as well start updating his resume. Hard to believe where we are right now... this season AND in general.
 
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JustinVol said:
Gotcha. So we fire a coach that stunk, didn’t care, was a jerk, didn’t develop any players, or whatever numerous things he did or didn’t do. Then Pruitt comes in with hardly anytime to recruit anyone and play nearly the same players (minus the few that went up), and expect to turn the pile of trash into a Bama team. We’ve been trash for sometime. It’s not like he’s getting handed a winning team like Georgia. We haven’t had a solid season in a decade (or more). It ain’t going to be fixed in 1 year.
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How long have you been employed by the UTAD?

Auburn played for the national championship one year after winning three games for an entire season, and it was under first-year head coach Gus Malzahn.

Florida won ten games last year after winning only four the year prior to that...Guess what? Another first-year head coach (the one we should have hired).

Here are the coaches for Bama in the ten years prior to Saban - either you don't know that team's history or you're willfully misrepresenting it because they were in every bit as big of a hole as we are now when Saban took over, and he won twelve games in his second year there i.e. it didn't take him twenty years to fix it.

Mike Dubose - 51% winning percentage: lost 23 games in four years, including losses to Southern Miss and UCF in the same season
Dennis Franchione - 68% winning percentage, bolted after one year (Bama's Lane)
Mike Price - never coached a game because of a scandal (Bama's Schiano)
Mike Shula - 49% winning percentage: lost 24 games in four years
 
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This is the dumbest thread with the dumbest comments. No way Pruitt is going anywhere for at least 3 years. The microwave crowd is alive and well I see.
 
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Y’all remember last year when Dana Holgerson manhandled us? Remember when Derek Mason manhandled us? Barry Odom?

You know what those coaches all have in common? They’re not good coaches. You know why they manhandled us? Because their schools aren’t playing musical coaches every few years. They have a set system, they recruit for that system, they have stability.

Win or lose, Pruitt gets 5 years. Don’t even bother looking at his buyout. Stability is what we need to finally start healing for the long term.
 
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sona said:
Why do people expect the situation to improve if he is given X amount of years to learn on the job? You won't get any return on that, you will have only furthered lowered expectations and the outlook on an already dismal program.

What must be done eventually, should be done immediately. Send him back to bama. He has shown nothing that points towards a brighter future for the VOLS. He looks lost and uninterested.
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This X 1,000,000. We heard the exact same argument when Butch was driving the program further into the ditch than Dooley had left it - "we have to give him time to fix it." And we are incalculably worse off than if we had only had Butch for two years, or none.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
Y’all remember last year when Dana Holgerson manhandled us? Remember when Derek Mason manhandled us? Barry Odom?

You know what those coaches all have in common? They’re not good coaches. You know why they manhandled us? Because their schools aren’t playing musical coaches every few years. They have a set system, they recruit for that system, they have stability.

Win or lose, Pruitt gets 5 years. Don’t even bother looking at his buyout. Stability is what we need to finally start healing for the long term.
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Stability hasn’t got us anywhere.

You fire Pruitt now vs waiting 5 years from now to do it, you gain nothing.

That’s the problem with the last few HCs we hired. They were all here longer than they should have been.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
Stands at five (5) million as of now.

UT Vols football: Two formulas for buyout in Pruitt's deal

Butch Jones' buyout was a little over eight (8) million.

Breaking down Butch Jones' contract buyout

Derek Dooley's buyout was five (5) million with total coaching buyouts totalling over nine (9) Million

Tennessee makes final buyout payment to Derek Dooley

Phillip Fulmer's buyout was six (6) million.

Fulmer to step aside as Tennessee coach

Boys, all we are is a get rich scheme for coaches. And, I doubt we are going to be firing Pruitt until the end of (next) football season.
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Could be worse. South Carolina’s buyout for Muschamp is more than $18M! He isn’t going anywhere with a buyout like that no matter what happens this year.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
Y’all remember last year when Dana Holgerson manhandled us? Remember when Derek Mason manhandled us? Barry Odom?

You know what those coaches all have in common? They’re not good coaches. You know why they manhandled us? Because their schools aren’t playing musical coaches every few years. They have a set system, they recruit for that system, they have stability.

Win or lose, Pruitt gets 5 years. Don’t even bother looking at his buyout. Stability is what we need to finally start healing for the long term.
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I remember reading the same thing on here when Dooley was coach. How did that work out? Or when Botch was in his fifth year and the pumpers/AD employees were screaming that he would get three more years to turn it around?
 
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lifeisdeep said:
This X 1,000,000. We heard the exact same argument when Butch was driving the program further into the ditch than Dooley had left it - "we have to give him time to fix it." And we are incalculably worse off than if we had only had Butch for two years, or none.
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In Butch’s case, he was on the right path for the first 3 seasons.

2015 is when UT really overachieved and was ahead of the curve. His downfall was the second half of the 2016 season when the wheels game officially off. Butch was very popular coming out of the 2015 season and no one was really questioning him.

He had success early but couldn’t handle it and couldn’t keep up the recruiting either.
 
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