Pruitt "obviously" in trouble

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cgrish said:
I rather keep Pruitt than either of them, neither are proven hc in sec
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Lol what? Urban Meyer wasn’t a “proven HC in the sec” when Florida hired him. Nick Saban wasn’t a “proven HC in the sec” when LSU hired him. Neither Mark Richt nor Kirby Smart were “proven HC’s in the sec” when Georgia hired them.
 
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VolMax said:
Suggesting that this might be the dumbest thing posted today is hilarious. Did you miss the posts about hiring Dabo or Urban?

You can't base the quality of the job on the current head coaches performance. If we had Jimbo, Kirby, or Dabo, we'd be up there, too. And you can't put it all on recruiting bases, otherwise, Florida or Texas schools would win the natty every year. When Fulmer worked, he owned GA and SC and did well in FL/CA.

Historic wins are a factor, as well as $, fan support and facilities.

If you're so sure of your statement, tell me how the following 5 are top 14 jobs.

If LSU is a top 14 job, how'd they wind up with Coach O (laughed at as an HC prior to last year)? Remember Saban quit 'em and they fired Miles.

A&M's all about Jimbo. What makes that a better job? The 12th man? The bonfire? I remember the disappointment when they joined the SEC (they were Texas' poor little sister that couldn't compete in the SWC).

Auburn is Alabama's poor little step-sister that was dumb enough to fire Little Bowden and Gus...who are they going to get better than Gus - he's the only SEC coach that's beat Saban 3 times? The most impressive thing about Auburn is that they aren't afraid to pay a buyout - which they'll regret doing this time.

Georgia is all about Kirby (like A&M). They weren't an elite job when Richt was there...nor Donnan before him (hired from Marshall).

Clemson's all about Dabo (what a surprise, huh?). The last time they were in a BCS bowl before Dabo was in '81 ('58 before that). No way you can call a job a top 14 job if they hired UTC's head coach in the last 30 years.

I look forward to your response...
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You aren’t leaving any room for a job to become a better job.

LSU is a better job today than it was when they hired Saban and Miles. They’ve won a Natty under 3 different HCs in my lifetime. That’s damn good. They are top 5. Easy.

Clemson is a better job today than when they hired Dabo. Georgia is better today than when they hired Richt. Auburn isn’t great job as long as Saban in at Bama, so I agree there.
 
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VolMax said:
Suggesting that this might be the dumbest thing posted today is hilarious. Did you miss the posts about hiring Dabo or Urban?

You can't base the quality of the job on the current head coaches performance. If we had Jimbo, Kirby, or Dabo, we'd be up there, too. And you can't put it all on recruiting bases, otherwise, Florida or Texas schools would win the natty every year. When Fulmer worked, he owned GA and SC and did well in FL/CA.

Historic wins are a factor, as well as $, fan support and facilities.

If you're so sure of your statement, tell me how the following 5 are top 14 jobs.

If LSU is a top 14 job, how'd they wind up with Coach O (laughed at as an HC prior to last year)? Remember Saban quit 'em and they fired Miles.

A&M's all about Jimbo. What makes that a better job? The 12th man? The bonfire? I remember the disappointment when they joined the SEC (they were Texas' poor little sister that couldn't compete in the SWC).

Auburn is Alabama's poor little step-sister that was dumb enough to fire Little Bowden and Gus...who are they going to get better than Gus - he's the only SEC coach that's beat Saban 3 times? The most impressive thing about Auburn is that they aren't afraid to pay a buyout - which they'll regret doing this time.

Georgia is all about Kirby (like A&M). They weren't an elite job when Richt was there...nor Donnan before him (hired from Marshall).

Clemson's all about Dabo (what a surprise, huh?). The last time they were in a BCS bowl before Dabo was in '81 ('58 before that). No way you can call a job a top 14 job if they hired UTC's head coach in the last 30 years.

I look forward to your response...
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LOL....so basically because they aren't Top 14 jobs because you can't fathom that they are?

Please tell me how LSU is a worse job than us when they've won 3 National titles since we last won ours? You can laugh at Coach O but he is way better than Pruitt apparently. Auburn isn't a Top 14 job because they're dumb?

Geezus dude....
 
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volfan_28 said:
You aren’t leaving any room for a job to become a better job.

LSU is a better job today than it was when they hired Saban and Miles. They’ve won a Natty under 3 different HCs in my lifetime. That’s damn good. They are top 5. Easy.

Clemson is a better job today than when they hired Dabo. Georgia is better today than when they hired Richt. Auburn isn’t great job as long as Saban in at Bama, so I agree there.
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That's why I'm saying this dude is basing everying on history, and not recent history. It ain't the 90s anymore.
 
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GoVols64 said:
Both of their rosters were competitive and ours were a bunch of three star champions of life. Not an apples to apples comparison. Doesn't excuse we are not getting better, agree with you there.

The roster is better and if JG was even average we would have been .500 on the year. Offense has looked better with HB and Shrout but one is a Frosh and the other has a cannon with questionable judgment. Both far better than JG. With a QB we are not in bad shape but still well behind UF and aTm.
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Yeah, but our defense does not have a clue regarding pass coverage...No one had the running back coming out in the flat and was wide open EVERY time. It seems our defensive philosophy is to tackle them somewhere on the field, but hopefully not in the end zone. Worst defense I have seen since Dooley's in 2012...
 
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VolMax said:
Suggesting that this might be the dumbest thing posted today is hilarious. Did you miss the posts about hiring Dabo or Urban?

You can't base the quality of the job on the current head coaches performance. If we had Jimbo, Kirby, or Dabo, we'd be up there, too. And you can't put it all on recruiting bases, otherwise, Florida or Texas schools would win the natty every year. When Fulmer worked, he owned GA and SC and did well in FL/CA.

Historic wins are a factor, as well as $, fan support and facilities.

If you're so sure of your statement, tell me how the following 5 are top 14 jobs.

If LSU is a top 14 job, how'd they wind up with Coach O (laughed at as an HC prior to last year)? Remember Saban quit 'em and they fired Miles.

A&M's all about Jimbo. What makes that a better job? The 12th man? The bonfire? I remember the disappointment when they joined the SEC (they were Texas' poor little sister that couldn't compete in the SWC).

Auburn is Alabama's poor little step-sister that was dumb enough to fire Little Bowden and Gus...who are they going to get better than Gus - he's the only SEC coach that's beat Saban 3 times? The most impressive thing about Auburn is that they aren't afraid to pay a buyout - which they'll regret doing this time.

Georgia is all about Kirby (like A&M). They weren't an elite job when Richt was there...nor Donnan before him (hired from Marshall).

Clemson's all about Dabo (what a surprise, huh?). The last time they were in a BCS bowl before Dabo was in '81 ('58 before that). No way you can call a job a top 14 job if they hired UTC's head coach in the last 30 years.

I look forward to your response...
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If you don’t think LSU, UGA, Auburn, and A&M are top 14 jobs, then I don’t know what to tell you. How about this, you list the top 14 coaching jobs in America.
 
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DonjoVol said:
We need a coach who has done the following:

1. Has won or has taken his team to the National Championship game.
2. Has beaten Bama.

That leaves only a handful of coaches. Les Miles, Malzahn, and Chizik are three of them. I think Les has seen his best days and Kansas is just a complete mess that he can't even win there right now. Chizik hasn't coached in awhile and probably has no desire anytime soon. That leaves Malzahn. We at least owe Malzahn the chance to interview for the job if it becomes open. And would be a realistic option for us.
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Urban has done both of those things...twice, but he isn't coming here
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Freeze isnt the #1 option to focus a search on. I’d rather swing for the fences trying to steal established coaches and have Freeze as a fallback.
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I'm all for hiring Freeze, but I agree with this line. Shoot for the moon - Meyer, Chris Petersen, Gary Patterson - make them say no.

IMO Freeze or Sark would be the next tier, but I think both could be had at a reasonable price.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
Right now, Tennessee is a top 50 job.

The potential coaches I would look at are Campbell, Chadwell, Malzahn and Napier.
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I think you’re short changing the facilities and support from the financial end. Top 15-20 minimum.

The ONLY reason we’re not higher (IMO) is because there’s apparently a long time cylinder misfiring under the hood that we just don’t seem to be able to fix. It’s not enough to keep the truck from firing or driving but it keeps it from towing anything over a yard trailer.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
You know---those STUPID sacks of excrement don't have a very good track record over the last 12 years of doing ANYTHING that has actually helped the program along--except for finally getting Fulmer in as AD.....
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That was their biggest mistake.
 
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volfan1631 said:
I don't think he'd leave for Bama
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Three reasons:
1 It’s his alma mater
2 They would make him by far the highest paid coach
3 to be considered the greatest you have to win Natty at more than one school
 
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vol.E said:
I think you’re short changing the facilities and support from the financial end. Top 15-20 minimum.

The ONLY reason we’re not higher (IMO) is because there’s apparently a long time cylinder misfiring under the hood that we just don’t seem to be able to fix. It’s not enough to keep the truck from firing or driving but it keeps it from towing anything over a yard trailer.
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Lack of maintenance at those quick serve gasoline stations for sure
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VolMax said:
How so?
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Is this serious? Facilities, in state talent, competent administration, the actual university is better than Tennessee, no self absorbed twitter fan base, competent media coverage, better college town, but more importantly a program that isn't a mess
 
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volsack said:
Urban has done both of those things...twice, but he isn't coming here
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Sure wish there was a Tennessee man that we could hire. The journey would be more meaningful and the victories sweeter. When you “buy” an Urban, winning it all would seem tainted to me.... like the Yankees buying a championship or winning a title but knowing you cheated to get there. I’m probably in the minority with this opinion....
 
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