Pruitt "obviously" in trouble

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lilesrt said:
As long as this leads to a coaching change I could care less what happens. Jeremy Pruitt is toxic.
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If Pruitt is tossed due to recruiting issues, that will eliminate possibility of hiring Freeze. The optics would be too much for SEC to allow, not to mention the irony
 
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LTVol said:
If Pruitt is tossed due to recruiting issues, that will eliminate possibility of hiring Freeze. The optics would be too much for SEC to allow, not to mention the irony
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Yes. There are other coaches available.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Sigh-Fulmer will not make the final decision or possibly any decision at all on a new coach. In fact who knows what Fulmer’s status will be after this fiasco.
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Most fans thought Pruitt was a solid hire (I'm not one of them). Now most think Fulmer is not capable of making a good hire. He made a bad one. So have a lot of other good ADs. I would rather have Fulmer making the hire than some administrative egghead who doesn't know squat about football and without the NADS to stand up to the academic eggheads who would like to see nothing more than the football program continue to decline.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Most fans thought Pruitt was a solid hire (I'm not one of them). Now most think Fulmer is not capable of making a good hire. He made a bad one. So have a lot of other good ADs. I would rather have Fulmer making the hire than some administrative egghead who doesn't know squat about football and without the NADS to stand up to the academic eggheads who would like to see nothing more than the football program continue to decline.
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David Blackburn would do the right thing if they brought him in like they should have in 2017.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He’s the last successful coach at Tennessee. I put more stock into him making a good hire with a search that he starts and finishes. Like I said, he will own the Pruitt hire to his grave. But to think he had an equal playing field of a coaching search as other jobs is absurd. And it’s clear he’s gonna have a broader booster base behind him than what Currie and Hart had when they reported to one donor family.
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Fulmer could have swallowed his pride and hired Leach and we would more than likely be better than 3-7 this year.

Doeren passed on us. But I think that was before Phil arrived. Brohm passed on us. I remember others passing on us as well. This left him going after Pruitt, Tucker and Steele. He completely botched this hire and could have definitely found someone better than Pruitt.

At this point, I even think we'd be better off if we had just kept Butch.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Fulmer could have swallowed his pride and hired Leach and we would more than likely be better than 3-7 this year.

Doeren passed on us. But I think that was before Phil arrived. Brohm passed on us. I remember others passing on us as well. This left him going after Pruitt, Tucker and Steele. He completely botched this hire and could have definitely found someone better than Pruitt.

At this point, I even think we'd be better off if we had just kept Butch.
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Leach is a trainwreck. Thank the Lord we didn’t hire him.
 
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99gator said:
In no particular order....

Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas A&M
LSU
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Oregon

Arguments can also be made for
Florida State
Miami
Michigan
Washington
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LSU, A&M, Auburn, Georgia, Clemson and Oregon are not top 14 jobs and you can't say that 14 jobs are better than Michigan.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Most fans thought Pruitt was a solid hire (I'm not one of them). Now most think Fulmer is not capable of making a good hire. He made a bad one. So have a lot of other good ADs. I would rather have Fulmer making the hire than some administrative egghead who doesn't know squat about football and without the NADS to stand up to the academic eggheads who would like to see nothing more than the football program continue to decline.
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I agree with a lot of what you posted except I thought Pruitt could be the guy until the 2nd half of the Georgia game when I knew he would never be a HC that could take us to a top 10 program level. I think with the news about possible serious rule infractions today and some comments here by insiders that Fulmer’s antics are going to be exposed and it will not be flattering then he may be on the hot seat along with Pruitt.
 
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I just hope they do it the right way and not under handedly if it has to be done. I like CJP but our team has to get better, that's just the facts. If this is done under handedly it will destroy our program because we will never be able to get a good football coach again because no one will trust us.
If this isn't handled above board, it will be the end.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Leach is a trainwreck. Thank the Lord we didn’t hire him.
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Lol. Some of you guys still trashing Leach. He has a long resume to prove he's been successful at both Texas Tech and Washington St. Guarantee he will have more than 3 wins in his third year at Mississippi State. Nobody expects him to even win a conference championship in Starkville. What he will do is make them a very difficult team to beat on Saturdays. And will occasionally beat the top teams in the SEC West.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. Some of you guys still trashing Leach. He has a long resume to prove he's been successful at both Texas Tech and Washington St. Guarantee he will have more than 3 wins in his third year at Mississippi State. Nobody expects him to even win a conference championship in Starkville. What he will do is make them a very difficult team to beat on Saturdays. And will occasionally beat the top teams in the SEC West.
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He’s successful at schools that suck. He never won anything of notable at WSU. Literally players are quitting the team in Starkville because of him. His recruiting is trash. Good riddance.
 
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99gator said:
Oregon because of NIKE money and the PAC-12 competition.

Clemson has always had this capability, just never done it. The other factor is the lack of competition. I mean who does Clemson have to beat every year. FSU and Miami. And if those two are down, not even them.

If I was a coach, the Clemson job is easily more attractive.
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Your Oregon/PAC 12 competition point kills LSU, Auburn and A&M from your list. Clemson has never been a top job until Dabo - they won natty in '81 but that was their first trip to a big bowl game since the '59 Sugar Bowl, and no top 14 school would've had Tommy West as head coach.
 
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VolMax said:
LSU, A&M, Auburn, Georgia, Clemson and Oregon are not top 14 jobs and you can't say that 14 jobs are better than Michigan.
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This might be the dumbest thing posted today. At least the first 5. If those aren't Top 14 jobs then they don't exist.

And please tell me you aren't basing what a top job is based on all time wins.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He’s successful at schools that suck. He never won anything of notable at WSU. Literally players are quitting the team in Starkville because of him. His recruiting is trash. Good riddance.
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He made it clear earlier in the season that there were some players that probably weren't a good fit for the program. More than likely those are the ones leaving and he'll be able to get the type of players he wants and needs in order for them to be more successful.

Mississippi State is ranked 31st on Rivals and 37th on 247 Sports right now. I bet Mullen didn't fare much better in recruiting. However, I bet Leach is recruiting better talent to Starkville than he was at Pullman.

There's a reason Mullen is now at Florida. Only so much a great coach can do in Starkville.
 
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DonjoVol said:
He made it clear earlier in the season that there were some players that probably weren't a good fit for the program. More than likely those are the ones leaving and he'll be able to get the type of players he wants and needs in order for them to be more successful.

Mississippi State is ranked 31st on Rivals and 37th on 247 Sports right now. I bet Mullen didn't fare much better in recruiting. However, I bet Leach is recruiting better talent to Starkville than he was at Pullman.

There's a reason Mullen is now at Florida. Only so much a great coach can do in Starkville.
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Mullen took State to #1..... Leach is no where near close to Mullen in coaching.
 
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VolMax said:
Your Oregon/PAC 12 competition point kills LSU, Auburn and A&M from your list. Clemson has never been a top job until Dabo - they won natty in '81 but that was their first trip to a big bowl game since the '59 Sugar Bowl, and no top 14 school would've had Tommy West as head coach.
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Be careful with this statement.

LSU, Auburn, A&M have better recruiting bases and a recency of success. The last 3 head coaches at LSU have won a national title. The last 4 head coaches at Auburn have either won a national title, had an undefeated season, or played for a national title. And A&M has had all the pieces necessary in place, but just hasn't done it.
 
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99gator said:
Be careful with this statement.

LSU, Auburn, A&M have better recruiting bases and a recency of success. The last 3 head coaches at LSU have won a national title. The last 4 head coaches at Auburn have either won a national title, had an undefeated season, or played for a national title. And A&M has had all the pieces necessary in place, but just hasn't done it.
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I think my man is caught up a bit too much in past glory. I honestly think he believes because UT is in the Top 10 for all time wins, it make UT a top 10 job right now.
 
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