Pruitt "obviously" in trouble

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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Someone stated the extensions have to be approved by higher-ups so is Fulmer 100% to blame.
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I wouldn't know how to apportion blame. I will just say that coaching contracts are part of his job, and I don't think it would have happened without his participation or approval, if not his origination of the deal. So his judgment is definitely implicated. I'd be surprised if the negotiations didn't start with him.
 
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99gator said:
Some of you are not thinking like a coach, IMO.

If I am the head coach at Clemson, what's my major obstacle to success?

If I am the head coach at Oregon, what's my major obstacle to success?

Ask the same thing for Tennessee.
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Oregon has no recruiting base and outside the Chip Kelly era they've never been an elite team. At Clemson you're a 2nd tier program that is probably the 2nd most popular team in your state that caught lightning in a bottle with Dabo Swinney and has benefited greatly from Tennessee and South Carolina hiring idiots the past few years.
 
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Vol737 said:
Fulmer won't be making any decisions. He'll only be the messenger. I think this is THE PERFECT opportunity to get Freeze and here's why. He wants to be here, publicly campaigning for the job. Tennessee holds all the cards given his past transgressions. UT can shape that contract almost anyway they want with regard to "morality" clauses, buyouts, NCAA compliance standards, etc.. where we are not negatively impacted financially or otherwise if we have to part ways with him. Basically, we get to look over his shoulder at every turn. If he doesn't like those terms, then you take a look at Napier, Chadwell, Fleck, et al. But whatever we do, we don't "experiment" anymore. JMO
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I’m hoping Freeze as well but how has he been publicly campaigning for the job?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Oregon has no recruiting base and outside the Chip Kelly era they've never been an elite team. At Clemson you're a 2nd tier program that is probably the 2nd most popular team in your state that caught lightning in a bottle with Dabo Swinney and has benefited greatly from Tennessee and South Carolina hiring idiots the past few years.
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Oregon is built on the back of Nike
 
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UT was a Top 10 job when Kiffen was hired.
His damage knocked us and we have tailspun since.
Still a Top 15 job, but potential to be Top 10 again.
Amazing what winning might do.
 
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wrangler said:
I wouldn't know how to apportion blame. I will just say that coaching contracts are part of his job, and I don't think it would have happened without his participation or approval, if not his origination of the deal. So his judgment is definitely implicated. I'd be surprised if the negotiations didn't start with him.
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Which is my reason for stating it’s not on Fulmer 100%. If had to be signed off by higher-ups.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Oregon has no recruiting base and outside the Chip Kelly era they've never been an elite team. At Clemson you're a 2nd tier program that is probably the 2nd most popular team in your state that caught lightning in a bottle with Dabo Swinney and has benefited greatly from Tennessee and South Carolina hiring idiots the past few years.
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South Carolina resident here, you’re nuts if you think they’re the second most popular program in the state. They have more fans than USCe and it isn’t close. It was like that before they were good too.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
South Carolina resident here, you’re nuts if you think they’re the second most popular program in the state. They have more fans than USCe and it isn’t close. It was like that before they were good too.
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A lot of people have no idea that Clemson won before Dabo. Not national titles. But, they won
 
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The cupboard is no longer bare. It will be though if the wrong call is made due to the transfer portal. Got to strike while the iron is hot but also make the right hire.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
And yet the past 3 coaches we've gotten are Dooley, Jones, and Pruitt. So if it's a Top 10 job, why do we not attract Top 10 talent?
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UF is one of the top five jobs in the country. Yet over the past two decades they’ve had to settle for the DC of the New Orleans Saints, the DC at Texas, the HC from Colorado State, and the HC from Mississippi State. Not exactly a who’s who of the coaching profession.
 
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99gator said:
Some of you are not thinking like a coach, IMO.

If I am the head coach at Clemson, what's my major obstacle to success?

If I am the head coach at Oregon, what's my major obstacle to success?

Ask the same thing for Tennessee.
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Clemson: the biggest challenge to success is how to out recruit Saban. Period.

Oregon: the biggest challenge to success is how to communicate to the CA and west coast recruits that weed is essentially 100% legal and fine in Eugene if it doesn't hinder your performance on the field...... and now in the NFL....... without actually saying or letting anyone else in the program say it.

Tennessee: trying to convince recruits that they're not going to get buried by double digits by almost everyone they face.
 
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The other thing that people have to get out of their head is this history stuff. Times change. Things change.

Oregon is in the top 10 nationally in wins (#1 in the Pac 12) since 1995. They are an elite program.
 
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Boston Vol said:
UF is one of the top five jobs in the country. Yet over the past two decades they’ve had to settle for the DC of the New Orleans Saints, the DC at Texas, the HC from Colorado State, and the HC from Mississippi State. Not exactly a who’s who of the coaching profession.
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Muschamp was a hot name at the time, and was the HC in waiting at Texas. He ended up sucking but he was nowhere near Dooley levels. And Mullen was considered a pretty good hire everywhere but around here apparently.
 
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99gator said:
Some of you are not thinking like a coach, IMO.

If I am the head coach at Clemson, what's my major obstacle to success?

If I am the head coach at Oregon, what's my major obstacle to success?

Ask the same thing for Tennessee.
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I have to admit this is excellent point. It is true for almost every question or issue when it come to comparing programs and similar discussions: ALWAYS THINK LIKE A COACH!! Get the fan bias out of your view and look at it like a coach. Most coaches base their decisions on a cold, calculating, non fanboy, “what is the path of least resistance”viewpoint.
 
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