Pruitt: Convince me...

[Vol67]

A level of realism worthy of General Neyland himself.

Now for a dose of Cafego-level hatred...

This job has been handed to man who has never been a head coach, never worked here, and doesn't understand our traditions or our legacy. It certainly doesn't help that this guy despises the University of Tennessee as much as I loathe him and his fellow Updyke band of ear-holing, bottom-feeding, flatland scum.

Bringing in the guy who doesn't know jack about Tennessee has worked so damned well over the last decade. Why not do it again...and this time with a flipping Bammer POS?

A program with mid-major expectations will generally achieve mid-major results. We've exceeded ourselves this time in that we've hired a man who hates the institution he's been hired to lead.

What could possibly go wrong?

Hopefully lose a few unknowledgeable fans.


So your telling everyone you know nothing about other SEC schools traditions? the your not a fan of any SEC team including UT

 

[Herman Hickman]

List of coordinators that jumped to HC position at the school they found success at; off my head


- Tom Osbourne
- Fulmer
- Stoops
- Dabo
- Smart
- Lincoln Riley
- Chip Kelly
- Gus Malzhan
- David Shaw
- Clay Helton
- Mike Leach
- General Neyland
- Dan Mullen

I'm sure there are many more

The most successful on that list replaced legendary head coaches who left them strong programs. As for Neyland himself, he took over a stable program he himself was a part of developing as an assistant to M.B. Banks.

We've hired a guy who has never coached at a rebuilding program. He has always had it easy and he has no experience with the difficulty of building a program that just finished 0-8 in the SEC and got worked over by a weak Vanderbilt program.

This job required an experienced hand. We chose yet another coach who hasn't seen anything like this.

 

[LLcoolDave]

What makes everyone so sure this is the guy ?

He talks like us.

 

[Herman Hickman]

Hopefully lose a few unknowledgeable fans.


So your telling everyone you know nothing about other SEC schools traditions? the your not a fan of any SEC team including UT

When are you replacing General Neyland's statue with one of your beloved Bryant?

Read the post again. This is about Tennessee tradition. This is about our history and the absolute failure of leadership to select coaches who understood and appreciated that tradition.

 

[Herman Hickman]

He talks like us.

The football equivalent of Wade Houston. A hire made by and for recruiting purposes without regard to the necessity of bringing in someone with actual experience working in a rebuilding situation.

We'll see how it works this time.

 

[BondJamesBond]

It's Bama's guy... What do you want them to do, trash him? He's left before and always found his way back... They know if he's successful, he'll be their next head coach after Saban.

So you want a coach no other team would ever want? This is like master level Whining.

 

[WestGaVol]

If you’d like a reason why we are down the list on coaches just go back 3 weeks ago follow volnation, twitter Facebook and any other outlet and watch what we “fans” said about every single name mentioned. It wasn’t just a bad deal with Schiano Currie, every coach not named Gruden was crap can’t coach no UT past coaching exp

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Go read Bama and rival boards.

No one is laughing any more about our search.

It’s awfully funny how things just went quiet.

 

[Grude Vibrations]

Hell im not warm and fuzzy...and I would've been warm and fuzzy about Gruden, Kiffin, Leach, or Tee. All of which would love to be the HC coach here. But what choice do I have but to get behind and buy into Mr. born and raised in and breathes Alabama football and let him come take over my Vols for me. He just might do well here, and maybe if we are successful at being on TOP again, then I can feel warm and fuzzy and start feeling that Tennessee magic when I watch games again and stop pretending this is all part of the process until it collapses to an even lower point in 4 years and maybe then I'll stop feeling apathetic and dejected and pissed off when I go to and watch games on TV... but as of now, nah... This hire doesn't make me warm and fuzzy.

 

[jakez4ut]

A level of realism worthy of General Neyland himself.

Now for a dose of Cafego-level hatred...

This job has been handed to man who has never been a head coach, never worked here, and doesn't understand our traditions or our legacy. It certainly doesn't help that this guy despises the University of Tennessee as much as I loathe him and his fellow Updyke band of ear-holing, bottom-feeding, flatland scum.

Bringing in the guy who doesn't know jack about Tennessee has worked so damned well over the last decade. Why not do it again...and this time with a flipping Bammer POS?

A program with mid-major expectations will generally achieve mid-major results. We've exceeded ourselves this time in that we've hired a man who hates the institution he's been hired to lead.

What could possibly go wrong?

appreciate the honesty.

but do you think coaching at alabama is really any different than TN? froma fishbowl perspective?

i siap yesterday, give me the alpha male that's coached fantastic elite level defense and recruits his azz off over a guy that's only other qualification may be just that he's been a head coach.

and of course a lot of this depends on how much stock one puts into the prospects of a petersen,patterson, fuente, franklin, or gruden type hire. if you're one of the ones that thought that was a realistic option, then you were probably going to be disappointed in a mullen, brohm, frost type hire.

and as this thing played out, and those type of names then got removed from consideration....we found ourselves here.

as for the bama tie in, it's been hashed out, but this conference is incestuous, always has, always will be. saban with Lsu/bama, bryant ky/bama, dickey tn/fl, dye aub/ga, dooley ga/abu, cutcliffe tn/bama, battle tn/bama.....so either you choose to get over the bama connection or you don't.

but if you're really honest with yourself, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that, if it's a TN contingent you had your heart set on, STeel or Martin are more qualified than Pruitt. they're not.

it still boils down to choice, and i'm not hear to convince you one way or the other. just sharing the information, as i see it, and insight as to how i think about it.

 

[jakez4ut]

i didn't see it before TN, but you're avatar is of bill battle, a tn coach that played for bear bryant at Alabama.

 

[VFL_in_MD]

It's still a gamble. He's never been a HC... There may be a reason for that. Some people just aren't meant to lead.

Aren't coaching hires always a gamble. Yea there is some science to it, but there is still quite a bit of gamble left too.

The only hires that I think are sure fire is Jimbo at aTm. Even he has questions (Hasn't won on the same level since Winston left, will be playing in the West, etc). So this like all things, means you take a shot based of the tangibles seen in a resume, and then hope there are some intangibles that also come along and make the hire great.

 

[Vfl2407]

He talks like us.

Yes.
No cliches or bs.

Coach Jeremy Pruitt Q&A 8/7/16 - YouTube

 

[Achilles]

i agree with you're whole post, in merit.

but in terms of what our problem is, as a fan base, it's that we've been thru 10 years of crap, and every single time it's been an unknown commodity that we're asked to "trust".

and every single time, we got burned.

this fan base wants a "known commodity" that we can have some realistic expectation of it getting consistently better and getting back to what we all think we could, and can, be again. and the easiest way to satisfy that is to give us a "name" we trust.

i trust that jimbo fisher can win conf and national titles, cause i've seen him do it.

i trust Chris Peterson because i've seen him take a team to the playoff and a G5 school to multiple BCS games.

i trust Gary Patterson, same reasons as above....

i trust gruden b/c i see him on TV all the time, and he won a super bowl, and he loves TN.

long story short, we were looking for a savior.

and all we've ever gotten were false prophets....and lost a generation in the process.

so, as i sit here and get pumped up about Pruitt and try to spread all the warm fuzzy feelings about the hire, i have zero doubt as to why anyone is feeling not so warm and fuzzy.

people make fun of it, and clam they don't have it, but BVS (battered vol syndrome) is real, and it gets played out in these threads every day when coaches and the virtues are discussed.

so, be happy or pissed about pruitt, really doesn't matter, cause the one thing that's not debatable is it is still a wait and see proposition, either way. and that alone is enough to take some people over the edge.:thumbsup:

I’ve slept on it and researched the s*** our of Pruitt. I allowed myself to vent, and now, likes always, I’ll support our coach. GBO!!!

 

[Achilles]

He talks like us.

As long as he can be understood and articulate himself better than Orgeron, I’m good lol.

 

[anthorain]

I will reserve my judgment til I see how he handles himself at the next level. His true test will be SEC play. I wish him the best though.

 

[VolsLady-in-FL]

Go read Bama and rival boards.

No one is laughing any more about our search.

This.

And people don't forget he is taking a gamble coming to UT too. We're a crap show at the moment. Support him geez.

 

[UCVOL]

Read this article from 2016

Alabama Crimson Tide defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt secret success

 

[slydwz]

It's still a gamble. He's never been a HC... There may be a reason for that. Some people just aren't meant to lead.

It’s just as much a gamble if he’s been a head coach, recent history will show you. Currie had no idea what he was doing, IMO. Fulmer definitely has him beat from the experience portion concerning the job of coaching. Pruitt has demonstrated leadership ability as a DC at both FSU and AL. His hire makes far more sense than a talking head on MNF, Schiano, Doeren, Brohm, Leach, etc.

 

[warrior]

Recruiter of year

You could be recruiter of the year at Alabama.

 

[shotgun83]

It's still a gamble. He's never been a HC... There may be a reason for that. Some people just aren't meant to lead.

He could have been happy where he was.
He could have been waiting for the right moment.

A lot of suckage in life is a direct result of people being unwilling to exercise patience.

But, for me, he'll still have to prove himself. Maybe he'll be a 20 year coach like Majors, or maybe he'll be a buooley..

We'll see. :hi:

 

[VolsLady-in-FL]

A level of realism worthy of General Neyland himself.

Now for a dose of Cafego-level hatred...

This job has been handed to man who has never been a head coach, never worked here, and doesn't understand our traditions or our legacy. It certainly doesn't help that this guy despises the University of Tennessee as much as I loathe him and his fellow Updyke band of ear-holing, bottom-feeding, flatland scum.

Bringing in the guy who doesn't know jack about Tennessee has worked so damned well over the last decade. Why not do it again...and this time with a flipping Bammer POS?

A program with mid-major expectations will generally achieve mid-major results. We've exceeded ourselves this time in that we've hired a man who hates the institution he's been hired to lead.

What could possibly go wrong?

1. We took a great DC away from Alabama. You should be happy about this.

2. If you seriously think he won't want to prove his worth and beat Saban you're delusional. If he can take our crap show and beat Bama next year it'd be huge for him (and of course us).

3. Just because he didn't play for UT doesn't mean he can't become a coaching legend here (not claiming he will or won't), just saying being a VFL isn't an instant qualifier and it shouldn't be an instant disqualifier if not a UT alumni either.

4. Just because he doesn't know the UT tradition doesn't mean he won't grow to love it. It's like adopting a child. Just because it's not *your* child doesn't mean you won't love it.

5. If he has success turning it around it doesn't mean he'll jump ship instantly. Not everyone is Lane Kiffin.

6. I still don't see why you're upset he's an "Alabama pos". Do you not want to be as good as those Alabama pieces of s***?

 

[dimera23]

Ok, I'm sorry, I see the resume but not all Assistants (in any job field) make a good HC. What makes everyone so sure this is the guy will?

I'm also a little concerned that we had to resort to interviewing Assistants only, the last few days. It seems everyone in the nations hiring proven HC's and we're over here interviewing Assistants. Just seems like Schiano all over again (minus the Penn State stuff)...

Edited: Also, it looks like he bounces around a lot. If he such a great asset then why are these other Universities ever trying to retain him? Seems like they're ok letting him go.

And about the CFP: You guys can't be serious about letting him coach. We're already getting a late start, we don't need any other distractions. He needs to be focus on one thing and one thing only, recruiting and building a staff.

There's no such thing as a sure thing. There are risks involved with any hire. All you can do is research your candidates and evaluate their odds of success based on your established criteria.

Given that, Pruitt has a very high likelihood of success. He's worked his way up the coaching ladder with consistent success at some of the best programs in the country. He works hard. He performs well. He elevates and develops those around him.

I firmly believe that Pruitt can succeed at Tennessee.

 

[Achilles]

This.

And people don't forget he is taking a gamble coming to UT too. We're a crap show at the moment. Support him geez.

I will always support our coach. I never said one negative thing about Butch Jones until after he was fired. Like I said, I always allow myself a few hours to be critical of something and then after that, I’ll always support my VOLS! GBO!!!

 

[Jeepkuntry]

UT is a dumpster fire. No legitimate coach is going to give us the time of day. Who knows if he can cut it here, but our options are limited. Now we just gotta pray that he can develop the talent. He's a great recruiter!