Price increase coming!!

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vol94 said:
It’s not a talent fee. We made the playoffs- an huge accomplishment!

Everyone got whipped by Ohio st in the playoffs.
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Making the playoffs last season wasn’t that “huge” of an accomplishment. We were on par with Indiana & SMU.
 
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LWSVOL said:
As long as there is a waiting list over 20K for season tickets and you have 18K students via each week for 12K seats, the price of the entertainment will continue to rise. Every year, expect an increase... Player payouts will increase at a higher percentage than 4% each year. got get that money to keep up..

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The assumption is that those on the waiting list can afford the higher ticket prices. Some of those on the waiting list will be in the same position as those that give up their tickets because they are no longer affordable. It will also depend upon which of the current ticket holders do not renew - if it is the cheaper tickets, then yes those can probably be consumed by the waiting list but if it is the more costly tickets - less likely.

He is rolling the dice but at some point, the increase will price many ticket holders and many on the waiting list out of the market. And it isn't just ticket sales - it is parking and everything associated with the game.

Now they can probably still have the place full - just give the students more tickets - but I believe what they pay is much less than what we all pay.

For me, this year may be the last - with me deciding to save money for the playoffs and/or bowl experience instead. I realized last year that if the Vols were to make a deep run in the playoffs, I could not afford every game. If I don't buy season tickets, that is money for a bowl game or two.

So I may decide to roll the dice as well - and be more selective in what games I attend. And the way this is going I will save money that way.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
The market will answer that question. As long as there are 20K+ in line for tickets there will not be relief.
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The waiting list will also dwindle as the prices increase. There are probably some on the waiting list that have no clue what the total cost of the tickets will be.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm not defensive at all about it or other prices in my life rising. I recall cutting yards as a very young kid and being upset when gas went over a quarter a gallon. I understand prices going up is annoying and have for many decades.

Prices rise. Entertainment prices almost always rise when the product is good and SEC football is among the best in the country and UT is a rising program in the SEC. I expect prices to rise as demand increases for a good product.

If the SEC begins to suck and no one wants tickets and prices DO drop, will you be happier because they dropped? I'm thankful we have a program worth watching.
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Will you be happy when we lose our home field/court advantage because all the people who made noise get priced out?

I’d rather be the best in a weaker SEC than an also ran in an elite SEC, yes.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Will you be happy when we lose our home field/court advantage because all the people who made noise get priced out?

I’d rather be the best in a weaker SEC than an also ran in an elite SEC, yes.
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We won't lose the noise. I've not been to Neyland in awhile because my legs aren't up to it but the times I've gone over the years, it's been as noisy as ever every game. I loved going to Stokely back in the day and it was often incredibly loud as has been Thompson-Boling when I was last there.

It's not been the same people for all those years and I'm not there anymore but the noise is still there.

As for the SEC, that you would like winning against losers more than you would like being competitive against the best says a lot about you as a person.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
We won't lose the noise. I've not been to Neyland in awhile because my legs aren't up to it but the times I've gone over the years, it's been as noisy as ever every game. I loved going to Stokely back in the day and it was often incredibly loud as has been Thompson-Boling when I was last there.

It's not been the same people for all those years and I'm not there anymore but the noise is still there.

As for the SEC, that you would like winning against losers more than you would like being competitive against the best says a lot about you as a person.
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Yeah it says I’d rather see my favorite football team win than lose and that I’d rather see teams like Alabama and Georgia suck than be good. If that is an indictment on someone as a fan or as a person, I’ll plea guilty to that.

But it’s fine, price out all the people who care too much, and we will see how well we do hosting all those SEC teams when the tickets are taken up by people who complain to ushers that someone in front of them is standing up on 3rd down.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Yeah it says I’d rather see my favorite football team win than lose and that I’d rather see teams like Alabama and Georgia suck than be good. If that is an indictment on someone as a fan or as a person, I’ll plea guilty to that.
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I'd rather beat Bama and GA when they're elite than when they aren't.

Unlike you, I'm not satisfied by hollow victories over non elite opponents. LOTS of teams can beat bad teams. Great teams beat good teams.

If you can beat bad teams, you're one of many.
If you can beat good teams, you're in the running to be the best.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'd rather beat Bama and GA when they're elite than when they aren't.

Unlike you, I'm not satisfied by hollow victories over non elite opponents. LOTS of teams can beat bad teams. Great teams beat good teams.

If you can beat bad teams, you're one of many.
If you can beat good teams, you're in the running to be the best.
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I’d like to see the Vols beat the AFC Pro Bowl roster, but realistically I understand that’s not going to happen. This is a zero sum game, and a strong Alabama and Georgia are not a good thing for Tennessee. I don’t think Clemson ever complained that FSU and Miami weren’t trotting Peter Warrick and Michael Irvin out there when the Tigers were winning championships. And beating Jim Donnan and Mike Dubose in 1998 didn’t cheapen the national championship for me a bit.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
I’d like to see the Vols beat the AFC Pro Bowl roster, but realistically I understand that’s not going to happen. This is a zero sum game, and a strong Alabama and Georgia are not a good thing for Tennessee. I don’t think Clemson ever complained that FSU and Miami weren’t trotting Peter Warrick and Michael Irvin out there when the Tigers were winning championships. And beating Jim Donnan and Mike Dubose in 1998 didn’t cheapen the national championship for me a bit.
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I get it. You don't actually want to be elite or believe we can be elite, you'd rather beat GA and Bama when they are down.

That's the difference between us. I believe the Vols can be elite enough to play anyone at their best and not have to hope others are weak so we can win.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm not defensive at all about it or other prices in my life rising. I recall cutting yards as a very young kid and being upset when gas went over a quarter a gallon. I understand prices going up is annoying and have for many decades.

Prices rise. Entertainment prices almost always rise when the product is good and SEC football is among the best in the country and UT is a rising program in the SEC. I expect prices to rise as demand increases for a good product.

If the SEC begins to suck and no one wants tickets and prices DO drop, will you be happier because they dropped? I'm thankful we have a program worth watching.
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I think you’re viewing this to simplistic. No one is saying tickets should never go up, but it’s almost as if you work in the ticket office. No need to explain supply and demand, I can assure you most here get it. The price gouging doesn’t match the results is all I’m saying.

Someone posted avg ticket prices and we fell I believe in the top 4. Seems a bit silly to me. We fell right there with bama who won how many nattys in the last 15 years? When’s the last time we even sniffed a SEC championship and had a true shot at it? I’m sure you’ll come back with “we just made the playoffs”. Let’s be real here. I love Tn as much as anyone here but we were a top 8-12 team. We couldn’t touch the talent of the top few teams, but we are paying the top few team prices.

Tn athletics in general are up right now and white is taking advantage. It’s to be expected. But the ticket hikes sure don’t match the output in some instances. That’s all I’m saying. They’ll fill the stands with or without me. I get it.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I get it. You don't actually want to be elite or believe we can be elite, you'd rather beat GA and Bama when they are down.

That's the difference between us. I believe the Vols can be elite enough to play anyone at their best and not have to hope others are weak so we can win.
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Well, I’ll believe Tennessee can be elite again when I see it and not a single second before, but I will root for Alabama, Florida, and Georgia to suck regardless of how good Tennessee is or even if we don’t play them. But a single shred of logic tells you that what’s bad for Alabama, Florida, and Georgia is good for Tennessee. I imagine if you were tasked with invading Russia, you’d insist on starting Christmas Day.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I think you’re viewing this to simplistic. No one is saying tickets should never go up, but it’s almost as if you work in the ticket office. No need to explain supply and demand, I can assure you most here get it. The price gouging doesn’t match the results is all I’m saying.

Someone posted avg ticket prices and we fell I believe in the top 4. Seems a bit silly to me. We fell right there with bama who won how many nattys in the last 15 years? When’s the last time we even sniffed a SEC championship and had a true shot at it? I’m sure you’ll come back with “we just made the playoffs”. Let’s be real here. I love Tn as much as anyone here but we were a top 8-12 team. We couldn’t touch the talent of the top few teams, but we are paying the top few team prices.

Tn athletics in general are up right now and white is taking advantage. It’s to be expected. But the ticket hikes sure don’t match the output in some instances. That’s all I’m saying. They’ll fill the stands with or without me. I get it.
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This pretty much covers it, and it is crazy to me that anyone would dispute a word you said here.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I think you’re viewing this to simplistic. No one is saying tickets should never go up, but it’s almost as if you work in the ticket office. No need to explain supply and demand, I can assure you most here get it. The price gouging doesn’t match the results is all I’m saying.

Someone posted avg ticket prices and we fell I believe in the top 4. Seems a bit silly to me. We fell right there with bama who won how many nattys in the last 15 years? When’s the last time we even sniffed a SEC championship and had a true shot at it? I’m sure you’ll come back with “we just made the playoffs”. Let’s be real here. I love Tn as much as anyone here but we were a top 8-12 team. We couldn’t touch the talent of the top few teams, but we are paying the top few team prices.

Tn athletics in general are up right now and white is taking advantage. It’s to be expected. But the ticket hikes sure don’t match the output in some instances. That’s all I’m saying. They’ll fill the stands with or without me. I get it.
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Apparently I do have to explain supply and demand.

There's a 20,000+ waiting list for tickets so they are in demand. A sports product that is in heavy demand, whether that product is winning or not, is still a valuable product and commands a premium ticket price.

It really is that simple.

When the Stones tour, despite being actual 80yo sloppy playing musicians, they make millions of dollars. Not because they're good musicians, really, but because they are the Stones and no one else is. LOTS of people want to see them whether they are good or not in concert.

When the Vols play, despite not having won an SEC Title or Natty in years, they command high ticket prices. Not because they are the best team in the sport but because they are the Vols and no one else is. LOTS of people want to see them whether they are winning it all or not.

It really is that simple.
 
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Voltopia said:
You don't have to go back to the 1900s, that's an exaggeration.

A Tennessee football ticket cost, what, about 20-50 dollars in the early 1990s, at least regular folks seats? I think? That's 50-100 dollars in today's money, give or take a bit. And I don't remember what the donation costs were back then. Someone can chime in if they know. But I'm definitely willing to bet it wasn't anywhere on the scale of prices now.

I may be wrong on the pricing particulars, I concede, as I don't have a clear recollection of pricing past a certain year. But the trend is still glaring. Are they free to monetize in this way? Sure. But the acceleration of aggressive pricing and pricing out folks to suit their new model of college athletics is still noticeable and worth commenting on.
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37620VOL said:
That $50 cost from 1990 would be almost $125 today.

If you invested that $50 in the S&P500, that $50 would be almost $2,000 today.

Food for thought
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My first game was in 1990. Father purchased the tickets at face value from a friend and, I think, IIRC they were $22. Now, that was way up in the upper deck too. As a 16 year old kid, I remember thinking that was a lot of money!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Apparently I do have to explain supply and demand.

There's a 20,000+ waiting list for tickets so they are in demand. A sports product that is in heavy demand, whether that product is winning or not, is still a valuable product and commands a premium ticket price.

It really is that simple.

When the Stones tour, despite being actual 80yo sloppy playing musicians, they make millions of dollars. Not because they're good musicians, really, but because they are the Stones and no one else is. LOTS of people want to see them whether they are good or not in concert.

When the Vols play, despite not having won an SEC Title or Natty in years, they command high ticket prices. Not because they are the best team in the sport but because they are the Vols and no one else is. LOTS of people want to see them whether they are winning it all or not.

It really is that simple.
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Lucky to have 75k actually in the stadium at times less than 10 years ago says different when we are losing
 
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Disclaimer—The Arkansas game will be my first time at Neyland Stadium.
I get that the stadium is huuuge, but with season tickets only being $375, including a donation, why are some of you spending thousands of dollars on tickets, plus donations? I know it is nice to sit on the 50 in row 15, but I could not ever see myself spending that kind of money to watch ballgames. Are your last names Buffett, Musk, Bezos, etc.?
 
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