Preston Williams Updates?

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Dragon18 said:
Thanks for digging all that up again. What was also really surprising to me within those numbers was how many true soph and freshman are playing. Those are guys that haven't even had two full years in the program. Like I said before it is not THE reason we have lost 4 games this year but it is uninformed to believe it is not a factor.
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If it is a factor in us losing shouldn't it also be a factor that we were in position to win all 4 games late in the 4th? Coaching was why we lost at least 2 of those.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
If it is a factor in us losing shouldn't it also be a factor that we were in position to win all 4 games late in the 4th?
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Our young players are fantastic players there is no doubt about it. I can tell you that as the game gets into the fourth quarter, the lack of time in a college strength and conditioning program catches up to you. It also matters from a concentration snd focus perspective as the game really ramps up. If a teambis down they start digging deeper into the playbook or they make an adjustment in a blitz or a blocking scheme. After a few years in you can adapt quickly. If you're Darin Kirkland it's the very first time you've seen some of this stuff and you hesitate for a split second on a read. As fast as the game is at this level you are now trying to catch up and it rarely works out well.

Our guys are great players and the coaches have done a really good job preparing them. Youth is not the reason we've lost games but it is a factor. As they mature these players will close out these games.
 
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Dragon18 said:
Our young players are fantastic players there is no doubt about it. I can tell you that as the game gets into the fourth quarter, the lack of time in a college strength and conditioning program catches up to you. It also matters from a concentration snd focus perspective as the game really ramps up. If a teambis down they start digging deeper into the playbook or they make an adjustment in a blitz or a blocking scheme. After a few years in you can adapt quickly. If you're Darin Kirkland it's the very first time you've seen some of this stuff and you hesitate for a split second on a read. As fast as the game is at this level you are now trying to catch up and it rarely works out well.

Our guys are great players and the coaches have done a really good job preparing them. Youth is not the reason we've lost games but it is a factor. As they mature these players will close out these games.
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I'm going to take a different angle on the losses. I agree we have some incredible young talent and they deserve to be better than 3-4. The OU and UF losses are strictly on Butch and the Coach's. They got double digit leads and changed up what had gotten those leads. Especially that 4th down pass that gave FL the lead. Janzek even admitted he should have blitzed Grier. He had all dday and a receiver will eventually get open. Throw in not going for 2,which has to be the worst coaching decision of the year. Butch wants to blame youth and depth for last minute losses but if that's the case how did we beat GA at the end of the game? Poor coaching decisions,bad tackling and bad secondary technique has and still kills us.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
I'm going to take a different angle on the losses. I agree we have some incredible young talent and they deserve to be better than 3-4. The OU and UF losses are strictly on Butch and the Coach's. They got double digit leads and changed up what had gotten those leads. Especially that 4th down pass that gave FL the lead. Janzek even admitted he should have blitzed Grier. He had all dday and a receiver will eventually get open. Throw in not going for 2,which has to be the worst coaching decision of the year. Butch wants to blame youth and depth for last minute losses but if that's the case how did we beat GA at the end of the game? Poor coaching decisions,bad tackling and bad secondary technique has and still kills us.
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I wouldn't argue with any of that. As an ex player I always tend toward player execution as the primary culprit but your points arr definitely valid. There's rarely a single reason things get away from a team. Usually a combination of events nd decisions.
 
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Dragon18 said:
This is simply not a fact. If you define depth as having the same number of scholarship players (85) you are correct, but when you play as many young players as we have, and I have outlined this in real numbers on a thread a few weeks ago, you can't say our depth is comparable to the better teams in the SEC. Our depth, as defined above, is simply not as developed and has not spent as much time in a college football program.
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This is simply not true. You don't get to redefine "depth" until it adequately prove your wished conclusion.

LOOK at other rosters before you draw conclusions. EVERYONE except for Bama had/has holes in their roster that were filled by players playing for the first time. Some were "older" than UT's but less talented. Some were even younger than UT's.

How "deep" did UGA end up actually being at RB? They aren't "deep" at WR. They're starting a Fr at DT. They've played more Fr than anyone in the country this year.

How does UT's depth compare to Mizzou's? Especially on O? UK? VU? USCe?

UF is playing young guys and is thin on both talent and bodies at the skill positions.

Now... to address the BS excuse moniker that you and several others like to bandy about when someone brings up youth I will add that it is not THE reason that we win or lose games.
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IT isn't BS. It is a loser's excuse.

However, you really show your lack of understanding of football at this level of play if you discount that it is a factor in outcomes.
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It factors but ONLY in comparison to your opposition. If UT was lining up against Bama every week then yes. But they don't. They're no worse off when you look player by player than their other opponents.

Your a business man SJT and you should know that your veteran personnel are much better equipped to handle the varieties of situations that come up in the workplace. College football is like this except it's $4iploads faster.
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That depends. I have several employees that have been with us less than a year that are MUCH better at their jobs than veteran employees I know who do the same job at other facilities. All experience is not equal. All training and talent are not equals.

You say "they're young". I say there's not a tandem of RB's in the SEC I'd rather have than Hurd and Kamara. You say they're young. I say that I'm pretty happy with Barnett, KM, et al. Regardless of "age", does UK have a 2nd string or even 1st string DT that is better than KM right now?

Your post above is just another example of you claiming fact to fit your narrative when it simply is not fact. Calling it a fact just doesn't make it one. Please refer to the "is UT the best team in the state thread" to look at the true analytical facts of the above statements.
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I've seen analysis of UT's age and depth and all of that other stuff. I'm not the one pursuing an agenda here. You who want to provide excuses are.
 
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Dragon18 said:
Thanks for digging all that up again. What was also really surprising to me within those numbers was how many true soph and freshman are playing. Those are guys that haven't even had two full years in the program. Like I said before it is not THE reason we have lost 4 games this year but it is uninformed to believe it is not a factor.
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You truly think the difference between 52% and 60% even if those numbers are exactly accurate is critical?
 
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volinbama256 said:
Unless you have confirmed that JG is not signing with us and will not be here in January, Dormady is going to unfortunately remain a backup here. Dobbs will start next year with JG, Jones, and Dormady all pushing, but by '17 JG will be the starter.
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You've built a time machine and gone ahead to confirm this?
 
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Dragon18 said:
I wouldn't argue with any of that. As an ex player I always tend toward player execution as the primary culprit but your points arr definitely valid. There's rarely a single reason things get away from a team. Usually a combination of events nd decisions.
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I'm just kind of going off what one of the trusted insiders on here who is around the team and coach's daily has been saying. If it is true that WR's are threatening to leave if a WR coaching change isn't made and that he has had several NFL guys and former coach's talk about how bad our secondary players technique is. That losing Fair has hurt the secondary a lot. Martinez is supposedly teaching these guys poor technique just like CZA is what our receivers. Both are very noticeable during our games. I just fear we may not get to the next level with some of the assistant coach's we have.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
# of underclassmen on the 2 deep:

Tennessee:
Offense - 13
Defense - 14
Over 60%

Florida:
Offense - 15
Defense - 7
50%

Oklahoma
Offense - 12
Defense - 11
52%
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Bama
Offense- 8
Defense- 9
39%

UGA
Offense- 12
Defense- 11
52%

USCe
Offense- 13
Defense- 11
55%

UK
Offense- 15
Defense- 10
57%

Ark
Offense- 12
Defense- 12
55%

Vandy
Offense-13
Defense- 14
61%

MU
Offense- 12
Defense- 10
50%


So Bama is the only Power 5 team on UT's schedule with less than 50% underclassmen in their two deep... so pretty much what I said. UT is about the same as their competition other than Bama and that's even BEFORE you look at the actual quality of the underclassmen.
 
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BTW, UT only has 13 on O if you count Jones instead of Robertson who may be back in this week.

I'm not sure how much real time Darell Miller is getting as 7's back up. Bynum seems to be playing more than Smith who is listed in several place as 2nd string.

Regardless, UT is NOT out of range of MOST of the teams they play.
 
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Dragon18 said:
Yeah a roughly 15% variance is significant to most people.
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Ah... now I understand where you and I part company. You went to school during the era of outcome based education... so to you, to maintain your self esteem of course, 60-52=15.


Sorry about that. Every day of my life it is important that math follow concrete rules... one being that 60-52... equals.... are you ready?.... 8.
 
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FWIW, UT's variance with Bama is the largest and likely the largest of any of their SEC opponents at about 22%. Yet UT so far has given them their second toughest challenge and didn't appear to be undermanned at all. UT scored late just like Bama did. The plays Bama made to win didn't look like fatigue on UT's part they just looked like great plays by great players.


Your contention that UT is hurt by its relative youth... holds less water all the time.
 
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sjt18 said:
Ah... now I understand where you and I part company. You went to school during the era of outcome based education3... so to you, to maintain your self esteem of course, 60-52=15.



Sorry about that. Every day of my life it is important that math follow concrete rules... one being that 60-52... equals.... are you ready?.... 8.
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Lol you cant do any math. The variance is between 52% and 60% percent set against the 100%. Now I understand you better. How are you still in business not understanding this.

Edit: your math doesn't take into account the total. Maybe you should get a tutor.

Edit: I hope this points out exactly how you come across so condescending and yet you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.
 
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Dragon18 said:
Lol you cant do any math. The variance is between 52% and 60% percent set against the 100%. Now I understand you better. How are you still in business not understanding this.

Edit: your math doesn't take into account the total. Maybe you should get a tutor.

Edit: I hope this points out exactly how you come across so condescending and yet you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.
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:eek:lol:
 
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sjt18 said:
Ah... now I understand where you and I part company. You went to school during the era of outcome based education... so to you, to maintain your self esteem of course, 60-52=15.


Sorry about that. Every day of my life it is important that math follow concrete rules... one being that 60-52... equals.... are you ready?.... 8.
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Dear lord? You make fun of someone's education and then demonstrate you can't calculate percentages. Nice.
 
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i believe i saw preston williams in a team photo at common wealth stadium ( bottom right orange hair). if he had played against bama we would have won. the guy knows how to get open.


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sjt18 said:
How "deep" did UGA end up actually being at RB? They aren't "deep" at WR. They're starting a Fr at DT. They've played more Fr than anyone in the country this year.
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UGA's depth must be worse than UT's...they gave up a 21 point lead to UT and got worse as the game went along.


I'm not going to comb through the pages...how is PWill?
 
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