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BernardKingGOAT said:
I have always gauged you as a true conservative. The "moderate" comment wasn't necessarily about your ideology. It's all about the perception of you by Trump Republicans because you aren't a "proud" supporter. I kind of hate to repeat it, but it's the dumbing down factor that has engrossed both parties. The fringes are ruling right now. It's why candidates absolutely SUCK from both sides. Most of those who really cared about the the country, from both sides, have left Congress over the past 10 years
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My feeling is that because there is more consensus in the middle than most would like to believe, issues are immediately turned into black/white scenarios. I tell people don’t fall for either/or arguments because we live in a both/and world. Unfortunately, the political parties are ruled by the fringes trying to polarize any issue to garner support from the middle and ultimately secure more power and money.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Im a very strong fiscal conservative. Tiny fed govt. Efficient. Limited duties. Little to no regulations. Im probably as consistent of a fiscal conservative as there is here. Im not like a lot of the "conservavtives" here who will bend their beliefs to be in alignment with Trump 100% of the time. My beliefs are more important than an undying devotion to a morally deviant politician.

Socially, Im probably left of center. Once again, limited govt influence. Let people make their choices. Not opposed to gay marriage. Not for abortion bans in first 20 weeks or so. For all the exceptions in abortion. I just dont want the govt paying for it or supporting PP.
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Ok you called him morally deviant politician but think it’s ok to kill a baby up to 20 weeks which is 4 and half months.

Most people vote on social issues this day and age than how much money the government is spending it seems because both parties spend like crazy.
 
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appvol said:
Ok you called him morally deviant politician but think it’s ok to kill a baby up to 20 weeks which is 4 and half months.

Most people vote on social issues this day and age than how much money the government is spending it seems because both parties spend like crazy.
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I am personally oppossed to abortion except for the exceptions (which includes statutory rape). However, I am not for the govt being involved in that decision. The only time where I might be for govt intervention after 22-24 weeks when fetus can survive outside body. But 3rd trimester abortions for non medical reasons is
rare so unsure of need to legislate that.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
I am totally against Illeagal immagration. Look at the lives that have been wasted ( California Truck Driver is the latest example) and the tax money that has been spent on this.

Regarding the Trans issue….follow your own policy. They need to do their thing and leave me alone. Do not try to infiltrate your beliefs and morals on me and my kids/grandkids.
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Keep this in mind when conversing with some here .

Correcting someone's grammar in an online forum, especially when paired with an insult, often signals a weak argument. It suggests the person is focusing on superficial errors rather than engaging with the substance of the discussion. Grammar corrections can be a distraction tactic, used to undermine the opponent’s credibility instead of addressing their points directly. This is particularly true if the correction is irrelevant to the argument’s logic or evidence. Insulting someone alongside the correction further weakens the arguer’s position, as it shows an inability to stay composed or rely on reasoned rebuttals.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I am personally oppossed to abortion except for the exceptions (which includes statutory rape). However, I am not for the govt being involved in that decision. The only time where I might be for govt intervention after 22-24 weeks when fetus can survive outside body. But 3rd trimester abortions for non medical reasons is
rare so unsure of need to legislate that.
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I baby can survive at 20 weeks also. I’m more willing to agree in the 1st few weeks.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I'm not ok with killing ,you (I think) are better than that.
I'm also not ok with demonizing a population due to actions of a very small percentage of others. I can turn this around and charge you with giving support to Americans murdering Americans.

Illegal immigrants are here to earn a living and support family. They do all they can to not attract attention. Gang members are not,but not all immigrants are not here to harm you as you suggest.

Tell me one instance that an illegal immigrants has harmed you or a family member.
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This is unreal….let’s start with this. Are you OK with your tax $’s going to Illeagal immigration? It is unsustainable!!

This is the US not El USA. They are Illeagal!!

I do agree the majority are here to earn a living, BUT those that are here with ill intent are one too many. To date, I have not been directly harmed but what if it does happen tomorrow? Is that OK? Why does that matter??? By the way, I do know some friends who have been impacted by II.

Have this discussion with the family who last their family in Florida or Laken Riley’s family. I think your thoughts would change.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Keep this in mind when conversing with some here .

Correcting someone's grammar in an online forum, especially when paired with an insult, often signals a weak argument. It suggests the person is focusing on superficial errors rather than engaging with the substance of the discussion. Grammar corrections can be a distraction tactic, used to undermine the opponent’s credibility instead of addressing their points directly. This is particularly true if the correction is irrelevant to the argument’s logic or evidence. Insulting someone alongside the correction further weakens the arguer’s position, as it shows an inability to stay composed or rely on reasoned rebuttals.
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OK but I don't think I was correcting grammar.

If anyone needs help with that, it’s me!
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
This is unreal….let’s start with this. Are you OK with your tax $’s going to Illeagal immigration? It is unsustainable!!

This is the US not El USA. They are Illeagal!!

I do agree the majority are here to earn a living, BUT those that are here with ill intent are one too many. To date, I have not been directly harmed but what if it does happen tomorrow? Is that OK? Why does that matter??? By the way, I do know some friends who have been impacted by II.

Have this discussion with the family who last their family in Florida or Laken Riley’s family. I think your thoughts would change.
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I'm not sure how much of my tax dollars are going to illegal immigrants. I'm a little more aware of how much food prices are increasing. I'm not sure how many of my tax dollars are going to support Israel killing children in gaza,but I oppose it.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
See…..you all only attack our solutions. YOu never do the hard work of coming up with solutions AND implementing them. This is the Democratic Party biggest issue. Attack, attack, attack, Republicans solutions without providing a thoughtful solution of your own And then IMPLEMENTING the solution.

I am not for the military being used in every city where we have crime but I am also not for Democrats sitting there doing nothing other than manufacturing numbers to improve their standing with the electorate.

Trump has legal standing to provide military in DC and he has done it. It has worked. He is saving lives and reducing crime. I don’t see anything wrong with that and , based on the interviews I have seen, neither do the citizens of DC Particularly when the mayor is vacationing in Martha’s Vineyard. IN fact, they welcome it.

Now, PROVIDE YOUR SOLUTION. I welcome your thoughts.
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You can't speak for people who live in a city you've only read about.

You can't claim this as "your" solution. Trump could pinch off a steaming turd in the middle of Pennsylvania Ave in the name of lowering crime and you'd agree with it. That's the problem.

DC's crime late was the lowest it had been in 30 years. Fact. Deploying the NG is not the only solution to lowering crime. Fact. There are cities with higher crime rates where he won't deploy the NG. Fact.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Keep this in mind when conversing with some here .

Correcting someone's grammar in an online forum, especially when paired with an insult, often signals a weak argument. It suggests the person is focusing on superficial errors rather than engaging with the substance of the discussion. Grammar corrections can be a distraction tactic, used to undermine the opponent’s credibility instead of addressing their points directly. This is particularly true if the correction is irrelevant to the argument’s logic or evidence. Insulting someone alongside the correction further weakens the arguer’s position, as it shows an inability to stay composed or rely on reasoned rebuttals.
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Ten million VN bucks says ChatGPT wrote this response.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You can't speak for people who live in a city you've only read about.

You can't claim this as "your" solution. Trump could pinch off a steaming turd in the middle of Pennsylvania Ave in the name of lowering crime and you'd agree with it. That's the problem.

DC's crime late was the lowest it had been in 30 years. Fact. Deploying the NG is not the only solution to lowering crime. Fact. There are cities with higher crime rates where he won't deploy the NG. Fact.
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I don't see the problem.

You can't speak for people who live in a city you've only read about.
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Would that apply to you as well?

I don't see the big deal to be honest, either it will help/assist some or it won't.
 
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