Preemptive Strike before the next 3 games

[Alex10]

Your football roster is still ranked 13 in the nation in terms of talent, just one spot below Florida. You have 33 four stars and 2 five stars. Your team lacked good coaching last weekend and it showed. Unfortunately, not only does your team need to learn fundamentals of football, but it looks like your coaching staff will have some growing pains too as first timers in their respective jobs.

Quite man people in here are still in super denial of these facts, at least let them have their delusions.

 

[mdsvol]

Didn’t read, didn’t have to I get the jist of it... we are beyond awful...it’s no ones fault, anyone who expects anything other than utter garbage is a complete idiot... Pruitt is the second coming of Saban... and oh yeah “ get out of my damn foxhole!!” If you don’t agree. Rodger that,already starting the lubrication process for this weekend...also working on the sunshine speech for after the game.

Lol

 

[Volstar65]

Your football roster is still ranked 13 in the nation in terms of talent, just one spot below Florida. You have 33 four stars and 2 five stars. Your team lacked good coaching last weekend and it showed. Unfortunately, not only does your team need to learn fundamentals of football, but it looks like your coaching staff will have some growing pains too as first timers in their respective jobs.

You guys are going to have enough to worry about without giving another team advice. We will be fine set your on house in order.

 

[Gatornator]

Bless your heart! Thanks you so much for your excellent football knowledge and wisdom, we are so blessed to have you explain what happened last Saturday evening and the deficiencies of the 2018 Tennessee Volunteers Football team. Did you share with Mullens the lack of discipline and poor defensive fundamentals when Kentucky beat your A$$es? Asking for a friend.

You're welcome. No direct line with Mullen here, but most Gators criticized the coaches for fielding an unprepared team. We definitely lacked defensive fundamentals in that game. Tackling was a big problem. Some of those issues seem to have been cleaned up by the time we got to Neyland, along with the return of David Reese and Cece Jefferson. Not too hopeful about our meeting with Missi U this weekend, but hope that we at least demonstrate good fundamentals. Looking forward to UT's coaching staff and JP making adjustments to defeat UK when you meet.

 

[McDad]

I could certainly be mistaken but I sense that you are assuming Fulmer himself will stay 4-5 years. For various reasons such as age, health, interest, and pressure from different constituents I find that unlikely.

???????

 

[Orangeslice13]

Lived in East Tennessee for a long time ( 6 years), Johnson City specifically. Loved the mountains, not as much the Vol fans, but I am back home in Florida now. Seen arrogant fans on both sides. I'd say they are probably even. I still feel the hate from UT fans for UF is probably a tad more than the other way.

As far as UF goes, our team is still not good. Two weeks ago we lost to a team we beat for 31 years. Doubt we have more than 7 wins this season. We just lived through two Saban assistant coaches as head coaches, and know how terrible they can be. Pruitt has not been here long, but his side line antics this weekend costing his team 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct has red flag written all over it. Reminds me of Chump.

I’m 49 years old and a grandson of a football vol. I’m in the long line of family members that went to Tennessee. And for me, my family and most Vols I know.....we don’t think that much about you. We dislike you and yes you’ve had our number but don’t really dwell that much on it.

But


We ****ing hate Bama.
Would lose to you forever gladly to beat Bama.
Maybe it’s because I’m older but you guys are more of an annoyance. Kinda like new money with no heart or tradition who really doesn’t know which fork to use.

 

[chuck0303]

Lol yea the game plan against Florida surprised me.

Yeah I'm sure CP planned those 6 turnovers.

 

[Alto1]

First thread....flame away.

I have read, cussed, re-read, cussed more and LMAO at many on Vol-Nation. Poor ole Freak must have the patience of Job!!! How many coaching changes will it take? Not to right the ship, but for a great many of the posters to understand, that our last 2 coaches have pulled our beloved Vols to the bottom. Whether from.....lack of recruiting, lack of recruiting talented players, lack of understanding fundamental football techniques or just plain bad coaching. While they may have tried their best.....they just were not good enough to be HC in the SEC.

Enter CJP. Unproven, untried and untested, as a HC, he accepted a job that no really good coach wanted. From what I have witnessed so far, he has Fire, Guts, Determination and common sense enough to hire a great staff. Our current staff already had very good jobs, but they chose to follow him here. The recruiting he was able to accomplish last year, in my opinion, was very surprising. The younger players are performing above all expectations. He knows talent and our staff will coach them up. Whether or not the older players decide to "buy in", is on them.

The next 3 games will, more than likely, yield similar results. Expect slow changes in improvement, and be happy when they surprise someone...Auburn??? maybe. CJP will probably be here at least 4 or 5 years. CPF understands to importance of maintaining stability in a program...something we have not had in 10 years. Support the team and coaches, give them a chance....and quit your B!tch?n.

I like you!

Thanks and please post more often. This board needs more common sense posters like yourself......................

 

[Alto1]

You are correct...I am not the cop. Guess I am just frustrated with some who continually want to be negative before they have given the new staff a chance to work.

While we may have recruiting stars, the product on the field shows lack of coaching from the previous staff. Our 4 stars do not play like their 4 stars. ( previous coaching)

I agree completely with lack of heart on the part of some players.....however, that will take more time to fix than 2 camps and 4 games....for those who were coached by Butch.

You're on a roll. Keep em coming!!!!!

The "some" on here just want to be argumentative are trolls from other teams acting like Vol fans. Then "some" of them, just don't know their azz from a hole in the ground.

Thanks again, and keep up the good work!

 

[tbones0711]

Yeah stability is what we need, but if you think the Haslam vultures aren't already circling Fulmer & Pruitt then you've got a rude awakening coming.....again.

The whole coaching fraternity nation-wide is likely aware of Haslam's influence in the past but his puppet got run-off. PF been around our better, non-interfering, big boosters long enough to sniff that B/S out. Ain't gonna be no rude awakenings in that area while Phil's at the helm.

 

[photovol]

First thread....flame away.

I have read, cussed, re-read, cussed more and LMAO at many on Vol-Nation. Poor ole Freak must have the patience of Job!!! How many coaching changes will it take? Not to right the ship, but for a great many of the posters to understand, that our last 2 coaches have pulled our beloved Vols to the bottom. Whether from.....lack of recruiting, lack of recruiting talented players, lack of understanding fundamental football techniques or just plain bad coaching. While they may have tried their best.....they just were not good enough to be HC in the SEC.

Enter CJP. Unproven, untried and untested, as a HC, he accepted a job that no really good coach wanted. From what I have witnessed so far, he has Fire, Guts, Determination and common sense enough to hire a great staff. Our current staff already had very good jobs, but they chose to follow him here. The recruiting he was able to accomplish last year, in my opinion, was very surprising. The younger players are performing above all expectations. He knows talent and our staff will coach them up. Whether or not the older players decide to "buy in", is on them.

The next 3 games will, more than likely, yield similar results. Expect slow changes in improvement, and be happy when they surprise someone...Auburn??? maybe. CJP will probably be here at least 4 or 5 years. CPF understands to importance of maintaining stability in a program...something we have not had in 10 years. Support the team and coaches, give them a chance....and quit your B!tch?n.

Pruitt may very well be exactly what the Vols have needed, I certainly am pulling for him to succeed and Excell.
If for some reason Pruitt is not the answer, he won't go broke trying, because he's making more money than he's ever made, his income is nothing to sneeze at, that's for sure.
Good luck Jeremy Pruitt
Go Vols

 

[photovol]

GFOH! FL is a terrible team. It wasn't bad coaching that cost us the game. We gave it to you. You guys made a play or two, but I didn't see anything from you guys.

By stars we may show talent, but this is the softest team ever. They were soft last year and their weak up front.

Jury is out on Pruitt, but I promise you butch didn't do him any favors with the way he handled S&C and the loser mentality he instilled in this roster.

But but but what about Butch's circle of life drill?
That about sums it up for bjones doesn't it?

 

[photovol]

Your football roster is still ranked 13 in the nation in terms of talent, just one spot below Florida. You have 33 four stars and 2 five stars. Your team lacked good coaching last weekend and it showed. Unfortunately, not only does your team need to learn fundamentals of football, but it looks like your coaching staff will have some growing pains too as first timers in their respective jobs.

I'm afraid you may be correct, but I'm having a hard time admitting it, this early.
In November the truth will be hard to deny, however.

 

[photovol]

Vanderbilt has a roster full of 2 stars and they've managed to win 4 of the last 6 against our 4 and 5 stars. That's because of coaching. A good coach can get a bunch of 2* and 3* players to buy in to his system, win the games they're supposed to, and one or two they shouldn't. A bad coach takes a roster full of 4* and 5* players and goes 4-8.

I honestly don't know what's going on up there. I thought it was just a matter of poor player development by the previous staff. But we shouldn't still be seeing the same mental errors 4 games into the season. The players have come out flat at the start of every game so far this season. I get that against a team like UTEP, but how do you come out flat against your most heated rival? There's something else going on there. I don't know if it's a lack of buy in. I don't know if there's an issue with team chemistry. I don't know. But the problems are much deeper than just player development.

I have to agree, something is definitely amiss in Ktown, just hard to pinpoint the exact cause

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Vanderbilt has a roster full of 2 stars and they've managed to win 4 of the last 6 against our 4 and 5 stars. That's because of coaching. A good coach can get a bunch of 2* and 3* players to buy in to his system, win the games they're supposed to, and one or two they shouldn't. A bad coach takes a roster full of 4* and 5* players and goes 4-8.

I honestly don't know what's going on up there. I thought it was just a matter of poor player development by the previous staff. But we shouldn't still be seeing the same mental errors 4 games into the season. The players have come out flat at the start of every game so far this season. I get that against a team like UTEP, but how do you come out flat against your most heated rival? There's something else going on there. I don't know if it's a lack of buy in. I don't know if there's an issue with team chemistry. I don't know. But the problems are much deeper than just player development.

Did you hear what Will Overstreet said about the UF game? He said there was only 3-4 SEC caliber players on both sides of the ball. That's not coming from some scrub that never saw playing time. This roster is much worse than many fans want to admit.

Seriously, what players from our team would start at UF?

 

[tbones0711]

Did you hear what Will Overstreet said about the UF game? He said there was only 3-4 SEC caliber players on both sides of the ball. That's not coming from some scrub that never saw playing time. This roster is much worse than many fans want to admit.

Seriously, what players from our team would start at UF?

Combine the best from both rosters and Bama would blow them out IMO.

 

[illinoisvolfan1]

Be happy when they surprise someone? I was surprised by Saturday's performance. I am not happy.

The team I saw last Saturday isn’t going to surprise anyone, except us loyal life long fans at how low Tennessee football has fallen.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Your football roster is still ranked 13 in the nation in terms of talent, just one spot below Florida. You have 33 four stars and 2 five stars. Your team lacked good coaching last weekend and it showed. Unfortunately, not only does your team need to learn fundamentals of football, but it looks like your coaching staff will have some growing pains too as first timers in their respective jobs.

I would think you would still have concerns about your own team to be bumping your gums over here. Florida isn't nothing to write home about, we played terrible turned it over 6 times. We don't need to gator to come over here running their mouth. You all might not win 6 either. GBO!!!!!

 

[volmanNC]

First thread....flame away.

I have read, cussed, re-read, cussed more and LMAO at many on Vol-Nation. Poor ole Freak must have the patience of Job!!! How many coaching changes will it take? Not to right the ship, but for a great many of the posters to understand, that our last 2 coaches have pulled our beloved Vols to the bottom. Whether from.....lack of recruiting, lack of recruiting talented players, lack of understanding fundamental football techniques or just plain bad coaching. While they may have tried their best.....they just were not good enough to be HC in the SEC.

Enter CJP. Unproven, untried and untested, as a HC, he accepted a job that no really good coach wanted. From what I have witnessed so far, he has Fire, Guts, Determination and common sense enough to hire a great staff. Our current staff already had very good jobs, but they chose to follow him here. The recruiting he was able to accomplish last year, in my opinion, was very surprising. The younger players are performing above all expectations. He knows talent and our staff will coach them up. Whether or not the older players decide to "buy in", is on them.

The next 3 games will, more than likely, yield similar results. Expect slow changes in improvement, and be happy when they surprise someone...Auburn??? maybe. CJP will probably be here at least 4 or 5 years. CPF understands to importance of maintaining stability in a program...something we have not had in 10 years. Support the team and coaches, give them a chance....and quit your B!tch?n.

Best idea is to shutdown the board for the next four weeks...

 

[swampfoxfan]

That’s based on recruiting. Talent and team personnel can only be judged by development. You can say we have averaged a top 15 class for past 6 years but if you don’t add development and good coaching decisions, it literally means nothing.

The apathy and loser mentality that those ranked 13th talent have isn’t included in that ranking.

Pruitt literally has 25 guys that are his that aren’t coming from a loser culture. They can buy in immediately because Pruitt is all they have known in their short careers. Having 3-4 year guys buying in immediately doesn’t happen with every player.

Total BS, This is Pruitts team, there is no losing mentality, just poorly coached players. Pruitt has had plenty of time.

 

[JMSqb11]

Total BS, This is Pruitts team, there is no losing mentality, just poorly coached players. Pruitt has had plenty of time.

So you are saying that 100% of all the players Pruitt inherited have bought into his program?

 

[mdsvol]

Best idea is to shutdown the board for the next four weeks...

You may have the right idea, lol.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

Did you hear what Will Overstreet said about the UF game? He said there was only 3-4 SEC caliber players on both sides of the ball. That's not coming from some scrub that never saw playing time. This roster is much worse than many fans want to admit.

Seriously, what players from our team would start at UF?

I didn't hear it, but at this point it's hard to argue.

Here's the thing that's bothering me though. Did all the recruiting services just miss on all of our guys and get everyone else right? I mean, pretty much every highly rated player on our roster doesn't live up to the billing. And it's been that way for years. There's got to be more going on than just bad players. I know S&C and development are still ongoing issues, but that doesn't account for the mental errors week after week. I'm at a complete loss.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I didn't hear it, but at this point it's hard to argue.

Here's the thing that's bothering me though. Did all the recruiting services just miss on all of our guys and get everyone else right? I mean, pretty much every highly rated player on our roster doesn't live up to the billing. And it's been that way for years. There's got to be more going on than just bad players. I know S&C and development are still ongoing issues, but that doesn't account for the mental errors week after week. I'm at a complete loss.

We've talked about the development of the players lacking over several years. Part of that is mental: the commitment and effort to really learn the playbook, to understand it, to know your job in each and every play, plus the jobs of the fellas to your left and right.

I really believe that the players got to Knoxville (whether two years ago, or four) and un-learned that kind of commitment and mental effort. And that's just as difficult to get back as physical fitness.

Our coaches have a lot of work to do.

 

[Rooster1]

So you are saying that 100% of all the players Pruitt inherited have bought into his program?

I personally liked it better a few weeks ago when you were still guaranteeing 9 wins. Man, those were some good times.