Predictions for 2007

#51
#51
I appreciate the respect shown for what Florida has accomplished and do not disagree that they did what it took to get the wins necessary to get into the game.

I guess it just always feels better to think that your team controlled its own destiny to get into a spot like this, rather than had to have things break just right.

Of course, even then, you can't say for sure what will happen -- witness Auburn.

As to VolBeef's comments, I get a kick out of champagne.
 
#52
#52
hatvol96 said:
1. Tennessee goes 9-3.
2. Tennessee wins one game in the NCAA tourney, setting the stage for an epic '07-'08 season.
3. Georgia wins the SEC, beating Arkansas in Atlanta.
4. Southern Cal cruises to a National Championship.
5. Kansas beats UNC in an epic NCAA tournament final.
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Agree with 1 and 2. not sure about 3...agree about 4...and no. 5...hm...that would be entertaining.
tclowers23 said:
We very well could be. A 9-3 season would be a disappointment next year.
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prepare to be disappointed. i expect next season to be a lot like this season. if recruiting picks back up, and all indications look like it is a bit, our next real title run of any kind will be in 07 and 08.
utfantilidie said:
I think we beat UF as well.
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not me. @ FL next season? with all the guys they'll be brining back? the D takes a hit, but the offense will be much improved, and it probably won't take an overpowering defense next season.

Our schedule next season is a tad more difficult in the road games we have next season. 9-3 is about right.
 
#53
#53
lawgator1 said:
I appreciate the respect shown for what Florida has accomplished and do not disagree that they did what it took to get the wins necessary to get into the game.

I guess it just always feels better to think that your team controlled its own destiny to get into a spot like this, rather than had to have things break just right.

Of course, even then, you can't say for sure what will happen -- witness Auburn.

As to VolBeef's comments, I get a kick out of champagne.
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ah, no doubt that USC losing set the stage...but FL won the SEC...Hat is right. OK and Neb backed in evidenced by the fact that they lost their respective last games of the season (no conf. championships for either) and still got to play for it all....that's backing in.

it is funny talking to OSU fans...they are not worried at all. it reminds me of Miami/Bama in 92.
 
#55
#55
jakez4ut said:
@ FL next season? with all the guys they'll be brining back? the D takes a hit, but the offense will be much improved, and it probably won't take an overpowering defense next season.

Our schedule next season is a tad more difficult in the road games we have next season. 9-3 is about right.
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I'll stand on optimism. Not that that is anything really new.
I don't think that what Cutcliffe wants for the offense is much more than halfway installed, and it's going to take another spring with Ainge et al, to see what we should see. More explosiveness.

This team will get better. And it will have a senior quarterback. UF will have a sophomore. Senior QBs are what win SEC titles by and large. Florida will be a good game, but a game we can and should win.
 
#56
#56
VolBeef88 said:
Enjoy things while you can LG. OSU will mop you up and make your coach cry again. This next few weeks will be the highlight for the Urbanator. His gimmick offense will end by mid season.
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How is it a gimmick offense? It's about as gimmick as smash mouth football in the I-formation.
 
#57
#57
orange+white=heaven said:
I'll stand on optimism. Not that that is anything really new.
I don't think that what Cutcliffe wants for the offense is much more than halfway installed, and it's going to take another spring with Ainge et al, to see what we should see. More explosiveness.

This team will get better. And it will have a senior quarterback. UF will have a sophomore. Senior QBs are what win SEC titles by and large. Florida will be a good game, but a game we can and should win.
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your right about the qb situation and having ainge as SR will give us an advantage in every game we play. lots of spring and off season practices to go...so plenty of time for development, but as i see it right now, it's likely we will have similar question marks on the O line and and Front on defense going in to next season. add to that that our secondary is going to get younger and don't we lose Wilhoit also? Also, not to forget the WR position...i think we have talent there and cut will get them ready, but they will be largely in experienced and young...they'll have to grow up quickly.

i just see similar questions going in to next season as this season (minus the ainge question mind you).

and lastly, we play florida so early....it's always a feeling out process for us. Good news for us is we will already have a big road game prior to that at Cal.

I'll put the Fl game right now in a "can" win category...but not a "should" win.
 
#58
#58
VolinArizona said:
How is it a gimmick offense? It's about as gimmick as smash mouth football in the I-formation.
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So many seem to think that it is something new or exciting. The option has been ran with varying degrees of change in the SEC in years past. I call it a gimmick because not that many people run it in big conferences anymore. There is a reason why they don't.
 
#59
#59
To complicated for its own good, misdirection everywhere. The more moving parts, the more that can break.
 
#61
#61
I am still trying to figure out how Arky makes it back to the SECCG? They loose a really good o-line - have serious ???'s at WR DMac can't carry that whole team.
 
#64
#64
allvol123 said:
It practically looked like it was falling apart during the SECCG.
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yeah, it looked awful when Harvin took it 65 yards, or when they scored on the double reverse pass for a TD. To your point about it getting dismantled...yes, it looked pretty bad early in the 3rd quarter. but that's with Leak running an offense he's not built to run.

i expect them to improve greatly going in to next season.

it's only a gimmick if you don't run it all the time.

the key to that offense is having the right people running it. it puts a premium on a good, strong running qb which they have. you need speed on the edge, which they have, you need OL that can get out in space and block, wich the have...etc, etc, etc...

don't get me wrong, it can be stopped...but it's not a gimmick.
 
#67
#67
jakez4ut said:
yeah, it looked awful when Harvin took it 65 yards, or when they scored on the double reverse pass for a TD. To your point about it getting dismantled...yes, it looked pretty bad early in the 3rd quarter. but that's with Leak running an offense he's not built to run.

i expect them to improve greatly going in to next season.

it's only a gimmick if you don't run it all the time.

the key to that offense is having the right people running it. it puts a premium on a good, strong running qb which they have. you need speed on the edge, which they have, you need OL that can get out in space and block, wich the have...etc, etc, etc...

don't get me wrong, it can be stopped...but it's not a gimmick.
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Then why did all the big boys quit running it? It's called using the sideline as another defender and stretch the play out. I know because I played against it. I stick with my prediction that it will be fine for them early but by mid-season or so it will lose it's luster and not scare people anymore.
 
#68
#68
jakez4ut said:
yeah, it looked awful when Harvin took it 65 yards, or when they scored on the double reverse pass for a TD. To your point about it getting dismantled...yes, it looked pretty bad early in the 3rd quarter. but that's with Leak running an offense he's not built to run.

i expect them to improve greatly going in to next season.

it's only a gimmick if you don't run it all the time.

the key to that offense is having the right people running it. it puts a premium on a good, strong running qb which they have. you need speed on the edge, which they have, you need OL that can get out in space and block, wich the have...etc, etc, etc...

don't get me wrong, it can be stopped...but it's not a gimmick.
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Sorry Jake, you did not catch my sarcasm. I was disagreeing with the idea that it would break down.
 
#69
#69
VolBeef88 said:
So many seem to think that it is something new or exciting. The option has been ran with varying degrees of change in the SEC in years past. I call it a gimmick because not that many people run it in big conferences anymore. There is a reason why they don't.
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And what would that reason be? I think it's because the SPREAD option IS new, and the big conference teams have been quite successful with their preferred style, whether it be West Coast, Pro Style, etc.

Just because major conference teams don't use it doesn't mean it won't work. It's not a soft style, so that won't be a problem. Like any offense, after a few seasons it will easier to scheme against due to commonality (is that even a word?).

However, you're writing it off as a gimmick ... and I don't know why. They aren't trick plays, like a HB toss.
 
#70
#70
hatvol96 said:
Florida, West Virginia, and Clemson all run variances of the spread option as their base offense.
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WVU yes. UF not so much yet and Clemson not so much either.

Now with that said I also don't consider WVU or Clemson to be big time schools in NCAA football either. Clemson used to be but not so much anymore. WVU? We will see how long they can keep up.

You know the big time schools I'm talking about. OU, USC, Texas etc. You know power players in the last 10 years or so. (I left UT out so you would'nt have to blast us)
 
#71
#71
VolBeef88 said:
Then why did all the big boys quit running it? It's called using the sideline as another defender and stretch the play out. I know because I played against it. I stick with my prediction that it will be fine for them early but by mid-season or so it will lose it's luster and not scare people anymore.
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The spread option is an entirely different universe than the triple option. It really is. And I think the "luster" will last more than half a season. It will take EACH Florida opponent at least 1 game facing it to see how they specifically can stop it. Maybe longer.
 
#72
#72
VolBeef88 said:
Then why did all the big boys quit running it? It's called using the sideline as another defender and stretch the play out. I know because I played against it. I stick with my prediction that it will be fine for them early but by mid-season or so it will lose it's luster and not scare people anymore.
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all offenses at some point get figured out by opposing defenses...so offenses are forced to adjust...with the assention of the option and all it's various forms today, i'd say it's another adjustment to how defenses are geared these days.

Speed, speed, speed.

Offenses like this are designed to take advantage of that speed.

and eventually, you are right, defenses will adjust to it and some other offense will be resrurrected.

same thing with the fun and gun at UF when Spurrier showed up. until he arrived, defenses were designed to stop the run....the SEC had made a living on great running backs and powerful offensive lines.

fast forward 15 years....the fun and gun ain't what it used to be....speed on defense everywhere.

and now we're back to ball control, keep it on the ground, albeit in another form, the philosophy is the same.

like most other things...this is cyclical too.
 
#73
#73
VolinArizona said:
And what would that reason be? I think it's because the SPREAD option IS new, and the big conference teams have been quite successful with their preferred style, whether it be West Coast, Pro Style, etc.

Just because major conference teams don't use it doesn't mean it won't work. It's not a soft style, so that won't be a problem. Like any offense, after a few seasons it will easier to scheme against due to commonality (is that even a word?).

However, you're writing it off as a gimmick ... and I don't know why. They aren't trick plays, like a HB toss.
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Or a jump shot "pass". I'm not sold on it and yes the spread has been used many times in the past. Typically it is done so by smaller schools who can't get the big time players. If they could they wouldnt use it. Military schools for instance. The reason I call it a gimmick is because it is rarely ran by top notch schools.
 
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