Portland Attack

Hate crimes were invented to properly punish offenders. Some crimes are worse than others. Some deserve more time. Hate crimes are one situation where extra punitive measures need to be taken.

When murder is not involved, I agree that there are crimes that deserve to be more punished more severely.

Scene 1: Guys in a Nashville bar starts a fight over whether Alabammer has better fans than Tennessee. That might be called a hate crime, but it snot.

Scene 2: Guy in a bar beats snot outta a gay/black/white/latino/religion du juor/blue hair man. Calling him all sorts of vulgarities about said et ceteras in the process.

Crazy dude in Scene 1 has less jail time coming than crazy POS in Scene 2.
 
So is rape the same if its an adult or child? No one is worse due to the circumstances involved.



That was part of it and a good thing. There are many examples of bigoted and biased local law enforcement not responding to and investigating these types of crimes properly. There was a need for fed involvement.



You gave an example of circumstances where two crimes with the same result should be punished differently. Hate crimes are the same. If it is a hate crime you deserve more time. If it is premeditated murder versus an accident or crime of passion you deserve more time. I don't know why ya'll are acting like there aren't a bunch of crimes where sentencing is different due to the circumstances.

Not only that but once the feds get involved you get that fed money. We agree on a subject. Scary. Time to go drink myself into a blackout so I can forget this.
 
Hate crimes were invented to properly punish offenders. Some crimes are worse than others. Some deserve more time. Hate crimes are one situation where extra punitive measures need to be taken.

When murder is not involved, I agree that there are crimes that deserve to be more punished more severely.

Scene 1: Guys in a Nashville bar starts a fight over whether Alabammer has better fans than Tennessee. That might be called a hate crime, but it snot.

Scene 2: Guy in a bar beats snot outta a gay/black/white/latino/religion du juor/blue hair man. Calling him all sorts of vulgarities about said et ceteras in the process.

Crazy fan in Scene 1 has less jail time coming than crazy POS in Scene 2.
 
Yeah, and the federal government has never forced bigotry onto the states, right?

I never said they didn't. There are many examples I have posted of just such a thing. It doesn't mean fed intervention is not needed sometime. The Civil Rights era was a huge example.

Not only that but once the feds get involved you get that fed money. We agree on a subject. Scary. Time to go drink myself into a blackout so I can forget this.

You are finally right about something then if we agree.

You'll be drinking even more when my son, who is on the way to be coming a Air Force officer, is your commander one day. He will be going into the AF Academy soon.
 
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I never said they didn't. There are many examples I have posted of just such a thing. It doesn't mean fed intervention is not needed sometime. The Civil Rights era was a huge example.



You are finally right about something then if we agree.

You'll be drinking even more when my son, who is on the way to be coming a Air Force officer, is your commander one day. He will be going into the AF Academy soon.

You're going to get ulcers worrying about him being around white people. He better hope he's nothing like you. He'll be just fine though, the real world is nothing like the one you've no doubt brainwashed him with.
 
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I never said they didn't. There are many examples I have posted of just such a thing. It doesn't mean fed intervention is not needed sometime. The Civil Rights era was a huge example.



You are finally right about something then if we agree.

You'll be drinking even more when my son, who is on the way to be coming a Air Force officer, is your commander one day. He will be going into the AF Academy soon.

Sorry Skippy I'm 11 years removed from service. He can come work for me when he resigns his commission and goes Fed. :thumbsup:

Strike that..I'll be retired before he an retire from duty.
 
Guy was in Court today yelling about freedom, and freedom of expression in the US.

He assailed a Muslim girl due to her religion and dress, then killed two guys for taking up for her.

This word freedom. I don't think it means what he thinks it means.
 
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Guy was in Court today yelling about freedom, and freedom of expression in the US.

He assailed a Muslim girl due to her religion and dress, then killed two guys for taking up for her.

This word freedom. I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

Dude doesn't believe in circumcising babies.

He's wack
 
Guy was in Court today yelling about freedom, and freedom of expression in the US.

He assailed a Muslim girl due to her religion and dress, then killed two guys for taking up for her.

This word freedom. I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

I'd hang him up high and let him swing 'til the sun goes down.
 
Dude doesn't believe in circumcising babies.

He's wack

That's not really a crazy idea. It's literally genital mutilation and is no longer necessary because man invented soap. What's weird is that we are essentially performing cosmetic surgery on newborn baby boys.
 
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I don't care what condition, illness, or pure stupidity this guy is suffering from he should be stabbed in the throat and left to bleed out just like the people he stabbed.
 
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That's not really a crazy idea. It's literally genital mutilation and is no longer necessary because man invented soap. What's weird is that we are essentially performing cosmetic surgery on newborn baby boys.

If it wasn't so weird I'd thank my parents every day.
 

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