Poll:Opinion of '17 Class

Poll:Opinion of '17 Class

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#26
#26
utvolpj said:
Stripling? Pretty sure the issue with the DL wasn't coaching. Why not a shot at Thig since the lb's struggled too? There's also at least one more likely to leave
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Even when the DL was healthy, it was struggling against most opponents. Stripling's not the worst DL coach in the SEC, but he's definitely in the bottom tier.
 
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#27
#27
BeardedVol said:
Even when the DL was healthy, it was struggling against most opponents. Stripling's not the worst DL coach in the SEC, but he's definitely in the bottom tier.
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I don't agree.

ASU - held to bout 1/2 of season average production both rushing and passing (on par or better than UM did and they whooped ASU)

Ohio - held to less than 1/2 of season average rushing and did ok passing

UF, VT and UGA - held their own and kept all 3 at or below season averages on O...pretty much dominated 2nd halves of UF and VT games.

TAMU - held their own - 7 TO cost that game...not D.

After UA, the wheels did fall off, but think our VOLS lost most of the 2 deep in the interior and a few more LBs.
 
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#30
#30
JC61 said:
I don't agree.

ASU - held to bout 1/2 of season average production both rushing and passing (on par or better than UM did and they whooped ASU)

Ohio - held to less than 1/2 of season average rushing and did ok passing

UF, VT and UGA - held their own and kept all 3 at or below season averages on O...pretty much dominated 2nd halves of UF and VT games.

TAMU - held their own - 7 TO cost that game...not D.

After UA, the wheels did fall off, but think our VOLS lost most of the 2 deep in the interior and a few more LBs.
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ASU, a sunbelt team, rushed for 184 yards averaging 4.3 YPC, UT had 6 TFLs, and 1 QB hurry and 0 sacks.

Ohio, a MAC team, was held to 88 yards of rushing, but still managed 2.9 YPC, UT had 4 TFL, 2 QB hurries, and 0 sacks

VT, 186 yards rushing, 4.1 YPC, UT had 3 sacks 8 tackles for loss, 2 qb hurries, not too bad against decent competition, and probably the 2nd best defensive performance of the year.

FL, 106 yards rushing, 3.1 YPC, UT had 2 sacks 7 TFL, and 3 Qb hurries.

GA 181 yards rushing, 3.9 YPC, UT had 3 sacks 8 TFL, and 1 TD. Probably the best overall defensive performance even though they were able to run all over us.

TA&M 353 yards rushing 7.1 ypc, UT had 1 sack, 5 TFL, and 3 hurries. Statistically one of the worst performances by the defense with the 7.1 YPC

Those aren't good numbers, even in our better performances, we still struggled to pressure the QB, and even bad teams were able to run on us effectively. If we ever have real aspirations of making it to the SECCG and/or being competitive, those numbers are not going to cut it.
 
#31
#31
madbamahater said:
I know there are some great prospects in the 2017 class. I wonder if they will be properly developed.

Are you happy with the class?

Was hoping Butch would have signed a lot more talent to make up for the coaching/development deficiencies that have plagued the program over the last four years.

Since they aren't the "Best Staff in America" I believe recruiting top talent must be at a premium to off-set the lack of talent on staff...........
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Tennessee can't finish 4-4 in the SEC, lose to Vanderbilt and expect to have a strong recruiting class. That will not work no matter how strong the recruiters are.

Recruiting was on a very high plane until losses started happening but the South Carolina loss made things really go down hill fast with recruiting. Vandy only closed the door.

You just have to do better than 4-4 and some games you just cannot lose.

I selected the mixed emotions because I felt it would fall off as November came to an end but hoped maybe they could pull one or two studs. But same as the last selection, this class cannot compete at championship level. Have to have vast improvement in classes to compete for an SEC.

JMO
 
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#33
#33
Does anyone know why Jones didn't save some scholarships for next fall? Ostensibly, he could do better than expected this fall and capitalize on some in-state talent.
 
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#34
#34
if your happy with 1 5 star and 4 4 stars. then I guess its a good class. when all the teams in the top 10 are killing it with 4 stars. we are the top 3 star school it seems?
maybe these guys will be hungry to prove they are better? we can only hope!
 
#35
#35
We signed maybe a half dozen impact players, another half dozen players who can help on STs and the rest seem to be projects who may or may not have been undervalued. If the staff can develop them to high potential, it's a solid class. Otherwise, we just signed half a class.

I don't see the logic in oversigning to get extra projects. Why not save the spots for next year and get off to a stronger start?
 
#36
#36
Color me underwhelmed. Not much to be excited about. If I thought our 3s would be coached up I would be more encouraged but I that doesn't seem to happen lately.
 
#37
#37
If folks want what Bama has...please switch. If, if, if..... if we had the best coach, best staff, best talent, best luck, best facilities, best AD, best turf on our playing field, sheeeeez! Maybe boredom or the desire to hear ourselves speak thru type leads to brain damage.

I love UT, totally support Coach Jones and staff, believe we have winning talent, and if we could get a few more breaks (Hail Mary in Georgia game), we could play in the Championship next year. Go Vols!
 
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#38
#38
Wow some really butt hurt people up in here. Take your 🍟And go seat down you will feel better!
 
#39
#39
Orange Marlin said:
Wow some really butt hurt people up in here. Take your 🍟And go seat down you will feel better!
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#41
#41
After four years of Butch and his coaches, I just can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I had hopes until this year, but seems like no one is getting the "coaching up" part of UT football. I'm just not excited about this class, or this next season. Hope I am dead wrong.
 
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#42
#42
Brave Volunteer said:
Someone on the radio said it perfect.

On signing day this is a "C" class. Now it's this staff's responsibility to make sure they elevate it to a "B" class and not let it fall to a "D" class.
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But it want matter if the other teams at the top of the conference also elevate their classes. Our competition does not sit still waiting for us to catch up.
 
#43
#43
Bottom line is that we can survive one bad class like this....because that is what it was.....a bad class. We must finish in the top 10 next year or all hope is lost as far as competing for championships is concerned. This was an Arkansas type class, and that doesn't cut it.

Here is a great example for everyone: Jalen Hurts. Bama won games in SPITE of Hurts. He simply is not that good of a QB. Put Dobbs on that team and no one comes within 20 points of them all year, even mighty Clemson. You see, Hurts had great talent around him that cleaned up his messes and made him look better. If you don't have the luxury of this then your team had better play perfect all the way around to beat the better teams consistently, and that is a very difficult thing to do. The more great talent you have, the easier it is on everyone to win. Bottom line.
 
#44
#44
norrislakevol said:
Bottom line is that we can survive one bad class like this....because that is what it was.....a bad class. We must finish in the top 10 next year or all hope is lost as far as competing for championships is concerned. This was an Arkansas type class, and that doesn't cut it.

Here is a great example for everyone: Jalen Hurts. Bama won games in SPITE of Hurts. He simply is not that good of a QB. Put Dobbs on that team and no one comes within 20 points of them all year, even mighty Clemson. You see, Hurts had great talent around him that cleaned up his messes and made him look better. If you don't have the luxury of this then your team had better play perfect all the way around to beat the better teams consistently, and that is a very difficult thing to do. The more great talent you have, the easier it is on everyone to win. Bottom line.
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this is it....for the UA idolizers....add to that 20% of their TD's were non-offensive. UA's O wasn't all that this year, but that D was out of bounds.

They averaged at least 1 NOTD each game....'cep Clemson, which ended up being the difference.
 
#45
#45
BeardedVol said:
ASU, a sunbelt team, rushed for 184 yards averaging 4.3 YPC, UT had 6 TFLs, and 1 QB hurry and 0 sacks.

Ohio, a MAC team, was held to 88 yards of rushing, but still managed 2.9 YPC, UT had 4 TFL, 2 QB hurries, and 0 sacks

VT, 186 yards rushing, 4.1 YPC, UT had 3 sacks 8 tackles for loss, 2 qb hurries, not too bad against decent competition, and probably the 2nd best defensive performance of the year.

FL, 106 yards rushing, 3.1 YPC, UT had 2 sacks 7 TFL, and 3 Qb hurries.

GA 181 yards rushing, 3.9 YPC, UT had 3 sacks 8 TFL, and 1 TD. Probably the best overall defensive performance even though they were able to run all over us.

TA&M 353 yards rushing 7.1 ypc, UT had 1 sack, 5 TFL, and 3 hurries. Statistically one of the worst performances by the defense with the 7.1 YPC

Those aren't good numbers, even in our better performances, we still struggled to pressure the QB, and even bad teams were able to run on us effectively. If we ever have real aspirations of making it to the SECCG and/or being competitive, those numbers are not going to cut it.
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depends on how you wish to spin it. Fact is, our VOLS held ALL those team below their season average....which is a success for the DL. Strip's a very good coach....if you think otherwise, that is your perogative.
 
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#46
#46
LWSVOL said:
Tennessee can't finish 4-4 in the SEC, lose to Vanderbilt and expect to have a strong recruiting class. That will not work no matter how strong the recruiters are.

Recruiting was on a very high plane until losses started happening but the South Carolina loss made things really go down hill fast with recruiting. Vandy only closed the door.

You just have to do better than 4-4 and some games you just cannot lose.

I selected the mixed emotions because I felt it would fall off as November came to an end but hoped maybe they could pull one or two studs. But same as the last selection, this class cannot compete at championship level. Have to have vast improvement in classes to compete for an SEC.

JMO
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This explains why UGA didn't do well in recruiting this year. Finished 4-4 in the SEC, lost to Vandy, and their in state rival.
 
#47
#47
JC61 said:
depends on how you wish to spin it. Fact is, our VOLS held ALL those team below their season average....which is a success for the DL. Strip's a very good coach....if you think otherwise, that is your perogative.
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So, when the stats don't agree with your feelings, it's 'spinning'? Makes sense.
 
#48
#48
08Vol said:
This explains why UGA didn't do well in recruiting this year. Finished 4-4 in the SEC, lost to Vandy, and their in state rival.
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wasn't saying that impacts Georgia. their base of prospects is great enough they can over come it, Tennessee can't. Why I said Tennessee and not "any team"
 
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#49
#49
Now imagine what a couple of consecutive years of 27 Trey Smith rated players would do for the program in all aspects.
 
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