Poll: Black Americans Support Colin Kaepernick. White People? Not So Much.

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golfballs said:
The victim mentality is rampant in today's society. But I don't know what the "alt-right" is
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DancingOutlaw said:
I didn't peg you for being this dense. Please keep in mind that "systemic racism" i.e. how our legal/education/housing system operates is the result of racist white people. White people have white privilege. White people have unconscious racism. So when someone says people of color are oppressed, they are saying white people are oppressing them. It's really quite simple. No one hears Kap speak and believes for one second that he means people of color are oppressing other people of color.
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When I say people of color are oppressed, I mean that they are oppressed by the people that make up the criminal justice system, from lawmakers to judges to prosecuting attorneys to law enforcement officers. Yes, most of them are white people. Yes, people of color are oppressed. No, I'm not saying white people are oppressors.

There are more than 2 possible positions on this issue, FFS
 
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n_huffhines said:
When I say people of color are oppressed, I mean that they are oppressed by the people that make up the criminal justice system, from lawmakers to judges to prosecuting attorneys to law enforcement officers. Yes, most of them are white people. Yes, people of color are oppressed. No, I'm not saying white people are oppressors.

There are more than 2 possible positions on this issue, FFS
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Who runs inner city schools and police departments where most of the "oppression" takes place?
 
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Godfatha said:
Who runs inner city schools and police departments where most of the "oppression" takes place?
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My whole point is that Kaepernick did not blame whites. He said "oppression exists". I am with you on this point and CK's not necessarily against you. Re-read my posts.
 
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n_huffhines said:
When I say people of color are oppressed, I mean that they are oppressed by the people that make up the criminal justice system, from lawmakers to judges to prosecuting attorneys to law enforcement officers. Yes, most of them are white people. Yes, people of color are oppressed. No, I'm not saying white people are oppressors.

There are more than 2 possible positions on this issue, FFS
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So not being able to follow the law like 95% of everyone else is being oppressed?





right..

Maybe they should move to countries without such oppressive laws!
 
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Wait.... These polls can't be right, I mean, Shaun King is in favor of kapernick
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I find it funny that without this country, and in Kaepernicks case, White people, he would have literally nothing that he has right now.
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He's getting paid $114 million to sit on the bench. I wish I could be oppressed like that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
When I say people of color are oppressed, I mean that they are oppressed by the people that make up the criminal justice system, from lawmakers to judges to prosecuting attorneys to law enforcement officers. Yes, most of them are white people. Yes, people of color are oppressed. No, I'm not saying white people are oppressors.

There are more than 2 possible positions on this issue, FFS
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Again you are being naive. What is the SJW narrative? White men founded this country, enacted her laws, established the pecking order, societal norms, etc. All of it was done to oppress minorities. The entire system is rigged against minorities because white people are racists. So when someone says "the system oppresses people of color" they are saying "the racist white system oppresses people of color". It is well understood who founded the systems and why.
 
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n_huffhines said:
No



Do you care about absolute wealth or relative wealth? Do you care about absolute oppression or relative oppression?
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I don't care about anyone who thinks they are "being oppressed" in the USA in 2016. If that's what they think they they are morons who has ZERO idea what real oppression is and probably should stfu. Go spend some time in any turd world country, plenty close by, and realize how petty Kaepernicks claims actually are.



Oh yeah, relative wealth. Happiness doesn't have a set price tag.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Again you are being naive. What is the SJW narrative? White men founded this country, enacted her laws, established the pecking order, societal norms, etc. All of it was done to oppress minorities. The entire system is rigged against minorities because white people are racists. So when someone says "the system oppresses people of color" they are saying "the racist white system oppresses people of color". It is well understood who founded the systems and why.
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You won't give up on reducing everybody who thinks there is racial injustice to one over-simplified position. It's a waste of time talking to you.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I don't care about anyone who thinks they are "being oppressed" in the USA in 2016. If that's what they think they they are morons who has ZERO idea what real oppression is and probably should stfu. Go spend some time in any turd world country, plenty close by, and realize how petty Kaepernicks claims actually are.

Oh yeah, relative wealth. Happiness doesn't have a set price tag.
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Communiss?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
So how does it get fixed? Who has to change their principles in this instance? Are white people wrong? Are black people wrong? Or are they both kinda wrong? Or are they both kinda right? I know you want the world to be about blacks vs whites, wrong vs right, good vs evil, but the real world has gradients. Being white and in the majority opinion on this Kaepernick business doesn't make you a racist. It doesn't necessarily make you wrong wrong either. Same with being black and agreeing with him.
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no we can't have outside thought. All black people are supposed to think exactly the same way, I read about it in a text book once.
 
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To me it's pretty simple - it just looks self serving for someone who has more privilege than almost anyone in the country to say I can't support a country that is oppressing people that look like me.

It's not that oppression doesn't exist or that you have to stand or you have "love it or leave it". It just looks like crocodile tears. It gets compounded when said person who simply cannot respect this country starts sporting a Fidel Castro T-shirt and wears cops as pigs socks.

It isn't black vs white. It isn't patriotism. It looks like he's biting the hand that feeds (whether he intends that or not).
 
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volinbham said:
To me it's pretty simple - it just looks self serving for someone who has more privilege than almost anyone in the country to say I can't support a country that is oppressing people that look like me.

It's not that oppression doesn't exist or that you have to stand or you have "love it or leave it". It just looks like crocodile tears. It gets compounded when said person who simply cannot respect this country starts sporting a Fidel Castro T-shirt and wears cops as pigs socks.

It isn't black vs white. It isn't patriotism. It looks like he's biting the hand that feeds (whether he intends that or not).
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Solid as usual.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
We are talking about amount of wealth and how it correlates to happiness right?

If so..as long as you can be financially secure/stable and live within your means (important) you'll enjoy life more.
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I wasn't talking about that.
 
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I'm fine with Kaepernick taking advantage of his rights. Doesnt mean I "support" it. Doesn't mean I want him arrested or anything like that either. This whole controversy is dumb. Complete gimmick on his part imo.
 
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Good to see Brandon Marshall of the Broncos taking a knee during the anthem.

The movement continues.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Good to see Brandon Marshall of the Broncos taking a knee during the anthem.

The movement continues.
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The "movement" involves nothing more than the next follow the leader fad that some self absorbed athletes are using to try and seem like the cool activist. However, when they pull this stunt on Sunday (the 15 anniversary of an attack on our country)... it will really start to wear out it's welcome, imo. There will be a much stronger and more divisive backlash. This is not constructive at all.
 
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This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt for Kaep to stay relevant. Funny how this so called "protest" conincides with him being relegated to being a backup. Why didnt he "protest" in 2014 and/or 2015? How about in 2013? Did the opression just start in 2016? What a crybaby.
 
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