Point Guard by Committee - RB

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Actually, I went back and watched the game again, the commentators where saying Josh would be best used as a backup pg. kinda like gs had done befor, a 3 and d guy.
 
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BruinVol said:
You don't think CDT was going to bring in another recruit to add to the list of possible PGs??

It would appear to me CRB put all his eggs in a basket that looks worrisome at the moment
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We can speculate left and right about what he may or may not have done. The fact is, he didn't. Tyndall didn't appear to have a whole lot of interest in retaining the 2 PGs he inherited from Martin and didn't sign one himself, so who is to blame here?

CRB did put all his eggs in one basket. He had about 15 minutes to do it as well. It's the same with most all coaching changes that happen right up against the deadline. I gave Tyndall the same latitude when he came in. If, at this time next year, we are still searching for a PG, then it falls on CRB.

I'm not playing favorites here as it seems you're suggesting.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Blaming a fired coach for a current coach's recruiting is, what can I Say, way out in left field to put it mildly.
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You're such a fraud, a liar, and a charlatan. I NEVER blamed Tyndall for CRB's recruiting. I blamed him for the lack of a PG on the current roster and yes, there's a difference.

CRB recruited and signed a PG within a month of taking the job. Tyndall didn't sign one in a year's time, ran off the one signed PG from Cuonzo Martin's final class, and had the most experienced PG he had transfer without much effort to retain him.
 
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cncchris33 said:
We can speculate left and right about what he may or may not have done. The fact is, he didn't. Tyndall didn't appear to have a whole lot of interest in retaining the 2 PGs he inherited from Martin and didn't sign one himself, so who is to blame here?

CRB did put all his eggs in one basket. He had about 15 minutes to do it as well. It's the same with most all coaching changes that happen right up against the deadline. I gave Tyndall the same latitude when he came in. If, at this time next year, we are still searching for a PG, then it falls on CRB.

I'm not playing favorites here as it seems you're suggesting.
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I would say you have been the best poster at giving both CDT and CRB the benefit of the doubt but it seemed almost a done deal that Tyndall was bringing in a Pg.

Now how good that recruit would have been is surely debatable but to me it was clear he was bringing one in.
 
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BruinVol said:
I would say you have been the best poster at giving both CDT and CRB the benefit of the doubt but it seemed almost a done deal that Tyndall was bringing in a Pg.

Now how good that recruit would have been is surely debatable but to me it was clear he was bringing one in.
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I'm still failing to see how Tyndall signed a PG and Barnes didn't. That's what it sounds like you're getting at. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I'm still failing to see how Tyndall signed a PG and Barnes didn't. That's what it sounds like you're getting at. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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The statement was made that if the Pg by committee happens(without turner) it would be Tyndalls fault.

My point is Tyndall was bringing in a pg which would have been better than none at all.

Fingers crossed on turner but the post were speaking hypothetically as if turner was out
 
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BruinVol said:
The statement was made that if the Pg by committee happens(without turner) it would be Tyndalls fault.

My point is Tyndall was bringing in a pg which would have been better than none at all.

Fingers crossed on turner but the post were speaking hypothetically as if turner was out
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I'm still missing your main point. Sounds like you're frustrated that there's not a PG on campus right now, and you're mainly attributing that to Barnes. If that is the case, I have to agree with cncchris in that that is more on Tyndall's shoulders than Barnes. If that's not your point, I'm still lost lol.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I'm still missing your main point. Sounds like you're frustrated that there's not a PG on campus right now, and you're mainly attributing that to Barnes. If that is the case, I have to agree with cncchris in that that is more on Tyndall's shoulders than Barnes. If that's not your point, I'm still lost lol.
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If turner doesn't make it Barnes deserves the criticism for the not having another pg on the roster not Tyndall because he was going to add 1.

That's the only point I was making
 
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BruinVol said:
If turner doesn't make it Barnes deserves the criticism for the not having another pg on the roster not Tyndall because he was going to add 1.

That's the only point I was making
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The bulk of the criticism should go to the coach that got himself fired first and foremost. Imo whether he was in line to bring in a pg or not.

But that's probably another argument for another thread.
 
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Lefteye said:
The bulk of the criticism should go to the coach that got himself fired first and foremost. Imo whether he was in line to bring in a pg or not.

But that's probably another argument for another thread.
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No doubt if Tyndall has never had the issues at all the class would be dramatically different and no one is to blame but him.

After he got the Bigtime commit in the fall this program was heading in a great direction but he screwed it up
 
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What is a little troubling is that RB recruited a point guard with academic issues at Tennessee considering the Texas internal investigation that may turn into an NCAA investigation.
 
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BruinVol said:
Hoping that wouldn't have been the better course of action but with today's news I think I would taken that since CRB also failed to fill other available spots
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As I've addressed already, I would prefer not to fill the roster for the next 3 seasons with mid major talent
 
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pimo1 said:
They are not opposite. In fact, when i hear someone say gym rat a Pg is exactly what i think of of. That being said the point you were trying to make is correct.. Barnes said nothing about him doing well or looking good at pg.
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Jarnell Stokes was constantly praised for the time he spent in the gym, he actually passed on going out partying while on his visit to Tennessee to hit up Pratt Pavilion at 2am, he however is no PG.
 
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BruinVol said:
I would say you have been the best poster at giving both CDT and CRB the benefit of the doubt but it seemed almost a done deal that Tyndall was bringing in a Pg.

Now how good that recruit would have been is surely debatable but to me it was clear he was bringing one in.
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I have zero doubt Barnes could go out and find a PG, maybe another Braxton Bonds or Wes Washpun, but again...when trying to build stability why tie up a scholarship for 3-4 years on a guy who has no business being on scholarship at Tennessee?
 
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BruinVol said:
If turner doesn't make it Barnes deserves the criticism for the not having another pg on the roster not Tyndall because he was going to add 1.

That's the only point I was making
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Can you prove Tyndall was going to add one, that's a bit of an assumption, no? He had a year to recruit 1 and couldn't get one signed, he also ran off two guys better than anything we currently have on the roster at PG, Tyndall is very much at fault for Barnes having to take a chance on a guy with academic issues.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
What is a little troubling is that RB recruited a point guard with academic issues at Tennessee considering the Texas internal investigation that may turn into an NCAA investigation.
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You mean kinda like the previous coach being under investigation and contacting a player currently enrolled at another school trying to bribe him into attending Tennessee?

I think I'm gonna take the SD course of action and just post the same thing everytime from here on out like you did with Tyndall...

“If you read the article, from my point of view, there’s no legs to it,” Barnes told reporters Monday in his first public comments on the matter since the report came out. “I think Texas has said everything that needed to be said. I’m sure they’ll proceed with whatever they think they have to do there, but it was made clear that I had no involvement in it, which I knew. If I thought there was something, I would address (it). (Because of) the fact it has no legs, I’m not really concerned about it.”
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-Rick Barnes
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Can you prove Tyndall was going to add one, that's a bit of an assumption, no? He had a year to recruit 1 and couldn't get one signed, he also ran off two guys better than anything we currently have on the roster at PG, Tyndall is very much at fault for Barnes having to take a chance on a guy with academic issues.
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Wasn't gray a lock to come if Tyndall stayed??

What was his final story??
 
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BruinVol said:
Without turner this team could really use a mid major level pg

Other than that position I agree with you
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Not really. No need to waste roster spots on Tyndall reaches. WC was a good example of Tyndall offering mid-major talent here.
 
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BruinVol said:
Without turner this team could really use a mid major level pg

Other than that position I agree with you
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Do I feel Punter could likely do as good a job as Gray could for next season, yes I do. As I've said, whether we have Gray, or Turner, or Bonds...I don't think this is a NCAAT team, so save the scholarship for a 4* PG like Jordan Bone.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Do I feel Punter could likely do as good a job as Gray could for next season, yes I do. As I've said, whether we have Gray, or Turner, or Bonds...I don't think this is a NCAAT team, so save the scholarship for a 4* PG like Jordan Bone.
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Do we already have 1 or 2 scholarships banked??
 
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BruinVol said:
Wasn't gray a lock to come if Tyndall stayed??

What was his final story??
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Gray never said that, many thought he was a Tennessee lean but many thought that about Ebuka Izundu, myself included. The fact is he ended up at Houston and never committed or signed with Tennessee, and like I said, in 12 months on the job Tyndall failed to sign 1 PG while managing to run off 2 top 150 rated PG's.
 
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