Playing in the Spring

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If and I say If a spring season happens it will have to be no more than 10 games or maybe 8. Start in early February and be finished with every thing by early May at the latest. Move the fall season start date back to Mid September and play a 10 game schedule. Then 2022 can be back to normal. We're going to have to get outside the box to get this back on track. The NFL can push the Draft back till early June for one year. Everyone will have to work together to save college football.
 
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The heart threat is soooooooooooooooo scary. So scary Europeans have ignored it en masse and have sent their kids and young adults to schools unabated.
 
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I know that the big 10 and pac 12 said they're going to cancel the season, but I think if the other 3 power 5 conferences commit to playing, then they will too. Or you're going to have teams like Ohio state and Michigan break from the big 10 and join the big 12, sec, or acc.
 
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RFlynn said:
If and I say If a spring season happens it will have to be no more than 10 games or maybe 8. Start in early February and be finished with every thing by early May at the latest. Move the fall season start date back to Mid September and play a 10 game schedule. Then 2022 can be back to normal. We're going to have to get outside the box to get this back on track. The NFL can push the Draft back till early June for one year. Everyone will have to work together to save college football.
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These two statements - It seems more people are trying to invent ways to screw it up rather than calmly and rationally step back and look at the situation logically without their all-blinding fear goggles on. Reminds of Reagan's saying, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help". Good intentions and rash actions mean nothing if it makes the situation worse without mitigating any of the underlying issues or making them out to be worse than they are.
 
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njvols said:
I think they'll play Fall or not at all, but just saying they do play in Spring, I think the only way you do it is play less games, like the 10 on the slate now, and for 2021 Fall season, push back the start to October, and play less games like on regular season schedule thru end of Dec (a throw away month anyway in CFB) to give more time between spring and fall slates.
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That could be a possibility but if you come out and say we are playing in Spring abbreviated schedule. Then play a shortened Fall season to allow players less wear and tear on Body. Then SEC and others that did not play in Spring. I Feel like they would tell recruits, come here we are playing full schedule in Fall. Enhance your chance for NFL.
 
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Remy said:
The heart threat is soooooooooooooooo scary. So scary Europeans have ignored it en masse and have sent their kids and yong adults to schools unabated.
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Yeah but all that has been said is "it could have". Hell I could get hit by a truck so I should never drive or go outside again.
 
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If the virus follows even the curve it did in NYC for the rest of the country... those who cancelled are going to look like idiots by mid October.

I personally see way too many logistical problems to playing in the spring. Playing that many games in that time span is part of it.

The answer to question #1 is yes. They care about the health of the players. I would say they are making a bad risk/benefit analysis. While trying to keep players safe from Covid, they actually put them in more danger from injury... but that's been a consistent pattern with ALL responses to Covid. The deaths because of the reaction to Covid will be more and cost FAR more years of life than the virus itself... and I'm not sure that some of those pushing the shutdowns actually did care. They were politically vested in looking like they were "doing something" about Covid.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
Russia has a vaccine. Putin gave it to his child. They stole it from the USA . Supposedly they skipped 3rd phase testing that we are doing now that takes 3 months.
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3 month testing phase puts it coming out in December if I am correct? Huh that would be right after the election, that would be one heck of a coincidence.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
Russia has a vaccine. Putin gave it to his child. They stole it from the USA . Supposedly they skipped 3rd phase testing that we are doing now that takes 3 months.
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I dislike and distrust Fauci. But he is a guy motivated by his own political standing and reputation. He has very consistently warned that vaccines may not provide complete or lasting immunity.... which if you've followed the guy over the last few months is a pretty good indication that he doesn't think they will.

For a variety of factors that aren't completely understood yet, a large % of the population already has significant resistance or immunity from the virus. I believe someone estimated that 30-60% of the population may have a T cell due to previous Coronavirus infection that blocks Covid-19. Even under very intense exposure early in the pandemic, crews and passengers trapped on ships with infected people... only had a 20% infection rate.

It is possible if not likely that a majority of us won't get it even if bombarded with it.
 
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VolFan4life24 said:
3 month testing phase puts it coming out in December if I am correct? Huh that would be right after the election, that would be one heck of a coincidence.
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I live with someone who believes this was all about "getting Trump"... but if it makes it out by December it will also be a year or two ahead of what is typical for a new vaccine.

I think the panic was started by the media on both sides. The left thought they had something that could hurt Trump back in January before anyone knew it would be as bad as it is. The right responded by blaming the Chinese and by extension Dems who were soft on China.... or in their pockets. Once they begin to report it as cataclysmic... neither side had any motivation to actually report the truth and calm people down. CDC et al contributed by reporting "scary" numbers that were NEVER well explained or qualified. They then let the media manipulate the numbers and create perceptions that simply were not true... like the claims of a 5% mortality rate.

If you want the truth... you aren't going to get it from FNC or CNN or anyone in that spectrum. They're going to hype Covid as if it were literally bubonic plague. They have COMPLETELY failed to qualify CDC's claimed "deaths". When death rates began to fall... they immediately transitioned to a new panic narrative over "cases". There are conservative and some liberal outlets that are actually trying to report the numbers and facts calmly and objectively. But regardless of who you listen to... you best follow their references and look at the raw numbers for yourself.
 
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sjt18 said:
I live with someone who believes this was all about "getting Trump"... but if it makes it out by December it will also be a year or two ahead of what is typical for a new vaccine.

I think the panic was started by the media on both sides. The left thought they had something that could hurt Trump back in January before anyone knew it would be as bad as it is. The right responded by blaming the Chinese and by extension Dems who were soft on China.... or in their pockets. Once they begin to report it as cataclysmic... neither side had any motivation to actually report the truth and calm people down. CDC et al contributed by reporting "scary" numbers that were NEVER well explained or qualified. They then let the media manipulate the numbers and create perceptions that simply were not true... like the claims of a 5% mortality rate.

If you want the truth... you aren't going to get it from FNC or CNN or anyone in that spectrum. They're going to hype Covid as if it were literally bubonic plague. They have COMPLETELY failed to qualify CDC's claimed "deaths". When death rates began to fall... they immediately transitioned to a new panic narrative over "cases". There are conservative and some liberal outlets that are actually trying to report the numbers and facts calmly and objectively. But regardless of who you listen to... you best follow their references and look at the raw numbers for yourself.
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You are correct and the raw number (the true numbers) would wreck the narrative. The true numbers puts this same even or lower than the normal flue season in this country. Why do they insist on test people who aren't sick. If we all were tested every winter to see if we had the flue bug in our system the numbers would be off the charts. The smartest people in the room don't seem to be very smart.
 
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RFlynn said:
You are correct and the raw number (the true numbers) would wreck the narrative. The true numbers puts this same even or lower than the normal flue season in this country. Why do they insist on test people who aren't sick. If we all were tested every winter to see if we had the flue bug in our system the numbers would be off the charts. The smartest people in the room don't seem to be very smart.
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Partly true. If I am not mistaken... there is no such thing as asymptomatic flu. If you get the virus... you get symptoms. At least 30% of all Covid cases don't even have symptoms.

CDC has never demanded the level of accuracy for flu numbers as they are Covid-19. That would be fine if they explained it and did not contribute to fear and panic. They estimate flu cases each year using hospitalizations. Two years ago, 950,000 Americans were hospitalized for the flu mostly between November and the end of April. We did not shut down schools even though the flu appears to be more deadly to children than Covid. Our medical resources were not overwhelmed even though that is twice as many hospitalizations as we are on track to have for Covid in the entire year.

The estimated number of flu cases that year was 60-80 million. Though less than 10 million Covid cases have been confirmed, the actual number is 10-20 times higher according to several studies. Somewhere between 30 and 50 million Americans have probably been infected with Covid by now. Most blew their noses and went to work. One of the takeaways is that the larger number of infections means that the virus is nowhere near as deadly as originally thought. In fact, if you cut off the "peak" before any treatment protocols were developed... and compare what's going on now... it starts to look a lot like a bad flu season.
 
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Illinoisvolfan2 said:
I think the spring 2021 talk is bluster. No one will do that then play a regular season in the fall. Too much stress on the players.
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If that happens then everything will be screwed up. Eligibility will be totally messed up. The seniors and the high school seniors this year will be the one;s that get hurt the most. Schools will not want two freshman classes but that's what they will have.
 
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sjt18 said:
I live with someone who believes this was all about "getting Trump"... but if it makes it out by December it will also be a year or two ahead of what is typical for a new vaccine.

I think the panic was started by the media on both sides. The left thought they had something that could hurt Trump back in January before anyone knew it would be as bad as it is. The right responded by blaming the Chinese and by extension Dems who were soft on China.... or in their pockets. Once they begin to report it as cataclysmic... neither side had any motivation to actually report the truth and calm people down. CDC et al contributed by reporting "scary" numbers that were NEVER well explained or qualified. They then let the media manipulate the numbers and create perceptions that simply were not true... like the claims of a 5% mortality rate.

If you want the truth... you aren't going to get it from FNC or CNN or anyone in that spectrum. They're going to hype Covid as if it were literally bubonic plague. They have COMPLETELY failed to qualify CDC's claimed "deaths". When death rates began to fall... they immediately transitioned to a new panic narrative over "cases". There are conservative and some liberal outlets that are actually trying to report the numbers and facts calmly and objectively. But regardless of who you listen to... you best follow their references and look at the raw numbers for yourself.
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Great post. I agree with you 100%. I do know that Covid is an actual virus but as you stated it has been blown way out of proportion and numbers inflated significantly. I also agree with Phil Robertson, who said in an interview, that everyone who is able needs to go back to work so that the economy can start to climb back out of the hole. I haven’t missed a day of work this whole time and I could honestly have made more money sitting at home drawing unemployment which is ridiculous.
 
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sjt18 said:
I live with someone who believes this was all about "getting Trump"... but if it makes it out by December it will also be a year or two ahead of what is typical for a new vaccine.

I think the panic was started by the media on both sides. The left thought they had something that could hurt Trump back in January before anyone knew it would be as bad as it is. The right responded by blaming the Chinese and by extension Dems who were soft on China.... or in their pockets. Once they begin to report it as cataclysmic... neither side had any motivation to actually report the truth and calm people down. CDC et al contributed by reporting "scary" numbers that were NEVER well explained or qualified. They then let the media manipulate the numbers and create perceptions that simply were not true... like the claims of a 5% mortality rate.

If you want the truth... you aren't going to get it from FNC or CNN or anyone in that spectrum. They're going to hype Covid as if it were literally bubonic plague. They have COMPLETELY failed to qualify CDC's claimed "deaths". When death rates began to fall... they immediately transitioned to a new panic narrative over "cases". There are conservative and some liberal outlets that are actually trying to report the numbers and facts calmly and objectively. But regardless of who you listen to... you best follow their references and look at the raw numbers for yourself.
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Discounting the "over ruled" part, this clip from My Cousin Vinny comes to mind...
 
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there wont be football until next fall. This is all just a way to push things off.

Once school is in full swing there will be another big virus explosion. Then they will send everyone home for the rest of 2020. they will all go back in spring of 2021 and this whole thing will repeat.

The spanish flu lasted 20 months.
 
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Remy said:
The heart threat is soooooooooooooooo scary. So scary Europeans have ignored it en masse and have sent their kids and young adults to schools unabated.
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Obviously you didn't know that myocarditis only occurs in US college football players who get COVID-19. COVID myocarditis does not impact normal college students, Europeans, children, or professional athletes.

And the other viral infections know not to lead to myocarditis in any athletes either....and yes, there is a list of viruses that can lead to myocarditis.
 
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