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#126
#126
WPAINE said:
yes, marijuana is a gateway drug, but more for its social implications than anything else... it can also be proven that alcohol is a gateway drug (how many people you know smoke weed but have never had a drink?)... To say that Marijuana is a gateway drug seems to imply that if you smoke weed you will all of a sudden feel this need to try Heroine or something.... When in reality, the gateway drug is simply the lifestyle... Chances are, none of us drank alcohol before we were exposed it and saw other people drinking it, same goes for weed, and same goes for harder drugs...
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For that matter you could also call Cigarettes or Coffee a gateway drug.

How many weed smokers do you know that don't also smoke cigarettes? Or haven't ever had a cup of coffee? The correlations are loose IMO. Yes, a lot of end users of the higher-end drugs like Crack, heroin, etc smoked marijuana before they got addicted to those hard drugs, but they probably also smoked Cigarettes and/or drank booze. Are those gateway drugs too? The only reason Weed is seen as a "gateway drug" and those aren't, is because the other 2 are legal. To get weed, you have to go to a drug dealer, who often supplies multiple drugs. Once you get involved with characters that are unsavory and nefarious, lots of bad things can happen. I am not saying all drug dealers are bad, or that all drug culture is bad, but the whole gateway drug thing is overblown. It is more of a gateway to the drug culture, which will then lead to harder drugs if you choose to pursue them.

If weed was legal, it would not be a "gateway drug."
 
#127
#127
dantheman617 said:
It was just 4 grams of weed. Not much at all. For the average citzen its not much more than a traffic ticket.
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This statement really blows me away. This is the hangover from Fulmer's reign. "It's no big deal, it's just a little pot." This isn't about personal opinion on pot. I don't smoke it myself but I really don't see that it is as harmful as alcohol. What it IS about is the law and pot is against it. Do you take pride in hearing about our players being busted with it? We have lived with crap like this for years and I, for one, am ready to see it cleaned up.
 
#131
#131
CountVolcula said:
Neurotransmitters control the levels of Serotonin in the brain. As most of you scholars of the ganja know, Serotonin increases in the brain when you smoke, giving you the high. However, your brain will adapt to the increase in Serotonin levels and decide not to produce as much. That is why you have to smoke more to get a high the more you use. Then, when you stop smoking, your brain no longer produces the level needed for proper emotional function(felling good) then comes the depression. That leads a person to smoke more to "feel normal". That, my scholars of the ganja, is addiction.
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Good post but not everyone who smokes pot is addicted and needs to smoke it to "feel normal." Some people just like getting effed up now and then...
 
#134
#134
tim said:
The MJ backers always cite Alcohol. They have no positive arguments.
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Well, it is a massive hypocrisy. What positive arguments are you expecting? Nobody is advocating smoking pot as a healthy lifestyle. However, it is not as harmful as the American govt. has tried to portray in the past. According the the government marijuana made people go crazy and do all sorts of depraved acts but cocaine was a cure-all!? WTH?
 
#135
#135
If people want to smoke marijuana, let them. The sooner their brain quits, the better! The generation that started accepting dope on a wide basis is just now in their 50's. It will be interesting to see how their health stats compare with the previous generations as they age. It is obvious that cancer and vascular disease in this group is still on the rise.

It is ironic that a lot of people that smoke dope also complain about the environmental contaminants in the air and they are willingly putting trash in their own lungs.
 
#136
#136
Damn, skip the hippie lettuce talk, and back to topic. What players are in danger of getting booted?
 
#139
#139
onevol74 said:
If people want to smoke marijuana, let them. The sooner their brain quits, the better! The generation that started accepting dope on a wide basis is just now in their 50's. It will be interesting to see how their health stats compare with the previous generations as they age. It is obvious that cancer and vascular disease in this group is still on the rise.

It is ironic that a lot of people that smoke dope also complain about the environmental contaminants in the air and they are willingly putting trash in their own lungs.
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Once again, all negative chemical components of marijuana can be removed by vaporization. Marijuana has been accepted for thousands of years, not just since the '60s.
 
#140
#140
gainesvol82 said:
Once again, all negative chemical components of marijuana can be removed by vaporization. Marijuana has been accepted for thousands of years, not just since the '60s.
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How many times do people have to ask you & others to move the drug topic to another forum?

It really isn't that difficult to keep a thread on topic.
 
#141
#141
onevol74 said:
If people want to smoke marijuana, let them. The sooner their brain quits, the better! The generation that started accepting dope on a wide basis is just now in their 50's. It will be interesting to see how their health stats compare with the previous generations as they age. It is obvious that cancer and vascular disease in this group is still on the rise.

It is ironic that a lot of people that smoke dope also complain about the environmental contaminants in the air and they are willingly putting trash in their own lungs.
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No. No they don't. Just because you say something doesn't mean it's a scientific fact. Btw, who calls weed "dope" anymore?? I couldn't care less about the environmental contaminants in the air. Matter of fact, when did you ever hear someone who smoked pot complain about the environment??
 
#142
#142
GLDunlap said:
Here is exactly what you said....
gateway drug? Cmon Mr. Reagan give me a break. That term is such a pet peeve of mine. Cigarettes and coffee are gateway drugs. You sir are ignorant. I advise you to get a clue.

That is not the same as saying you know more then me about the subject. That is calling me ignorant. Trust me you didn't hurt my feelings I could care less what someone I don't know thinks about me. I just don't think because my opinion differs from you that it makes either one of us ignorant and there is no need in using such a derogatory term. Most likely we just have a different interpetation of what "gateway" means and you just don't like the word as you understand it. Gateway is a very general term and I used it as such.

btw, Mr. Reagan was a great man and a great American so you can me Mr Reagan any day all day.
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I agree its all good. I love Reagan too but his drug war was and is a massive failure. One of the main reasons Im a libertarian. As for being off topic, I think its because none of us know what is really going on with the players right now so why not debate recreational drug use instead? :hi:
 
#143
#143
CountVolcula said:
Neurotransmitters control the levels of Serotonin in the brain. As most of you scholars of the ganja know, Serotonin increases in the brain when you smoke, giving you the high. However, your brain will adapt to the increase in Serotonin levels and decide not to produce as much. That is why you have to smoke more to get a high the more you use. Then, when you stop smoking, your brain no longer produces the level needed for proper emotional function(felling good) then comes the depression. That leads a person to smoke more to "feel normal". That, my scholars of the ganja, is addiction.
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I think you are confusing marijuana with cocaine (ESP crack)


What actually happens is THC (Tetrahydricannabinol) goes and interferes with neurons in the brain.
Very simply put.
-Neurons have a gap between them (synapse) bridged by neurotransmitters.
-Each neuron can have multiple commands and specific neurotransmitters.
-THC goes and usually blocks (making you forget things) or sometimes triggers communication between neurons (probably leading to a heightened sense of thought).
Although it is believed that everything returns to normal after the THC looses effectiveness, it is probably not a good thing to abuse...
It has been shown to affect short term memory also.

While there is no physical dependence there can certainly be an emotional or social dependence among people (much like alcohol before a physical dependence is manifested).
 
#145
#145
ShowMeVol said:
How many times do people have to ask you & others to move the drug topic to another forum?

It really isn't that difficult to keep a thread on topic.
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How many times do I have to post about it before you realize I don't care? The conversation went that route. Deal with it.

It really isn't difficult for you to quit whining.
 
#146
#146
gainesvol82 said:
How many times do I have to post about it before you realize I don't care? The conversation went that route. Deal with it.

It really isn't difficult for you to quit whining.
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It really isn't that difficult to start a new thread.

Maybe you just don't have the brains to know how to start one?

It's really not that difficult...give it a try....pick your topic & click on "new thread".
 
#147
#147
Threads get off topic all the time, and sometimes never get back on.

It is part of having a discussion.
 
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