Players Let Go?

#51
#51
gateway drug? Cmon Mr. Reagan give me a break. That term is such a pet peeve of mine. Cigarettes and coffee are gateway drugs. You sir are ignorant. I advise you to get a clue.

Should our players be smokin' herb? No. Will it lead to crack cocaine and sharing needles in the lockerroom? No.
 
#52
#52
Maybe players should realize how lucky they are to be going to college on a free ticket and get to represent the University by playing football for them, and should act accordingly. Everyone on that team know weed is illegal, just like they know it is illegal to drink and drive. (and in many players cases, illegal to even be drinking given their age)
 
#53
#53
gainesvol82 said:
You're saying that Jones and Paige should have been kicked off the team? :crazy: They should never be allowed to host a recruit again but you're talking about a huge impact on a kids life for a joint!? Vinson should have been done for most of a season and had mandatory therapy for his 2nd offense. You don't just give up on them for mistakes that are common.
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Actually if you read my post correctly you would see that I said Vinson should have been kicked off for the remainder of the season which was three or four games. In Jones case I only stated what I thought CLK would do compared to what CPF did.
 
#54
#54
gainesvol82 said:
The only thing wrong with marijuana is the fact that it is illegal, is harmful to the lungs and can be a demotivator if abused. Heck, even the bad effects on the lungs can be avoided. The only difference between the guy who goes home and smokes pot compared to the guy that goes home and drinks a 6 pack is in the eyes of a flawed system.
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I have much, much, much more important things to think about and things to do with my time then worry about the legalization of weed. Besides, weed is for wussies, if you want to really screw yourself up, go snort some coke or do some meth, quit being a baby about it and do it for real. :peace2:
 
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GLDunlap said:
gainesvol82 said:
The only thing wrong with marijuana is the fact that it is illegal, is harmful to the lungs and can be a demotivator if abused. Heck, even the bad effects on the lungs can be avoided. The only difference between the guy who goes home and smokes pot compared to the guy that goes home and drinks a 6 pack is in the eyes of a flawed system.[/QUOTE

Not hear to argue the laws but just as you stated "it's illegal". Also you may be right on your comparison with alcohol however there is more wrong with marijuana then you stated. Any idea how many Marijuana smokers go on to get addicted to other drugs? Marijuana is a gateway drug. Drinking and driving is also illegal.
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Gateway drug is the biggest pile of bs I've ever hear. Gateway to what? You either have the desire to do drugs or not. Smoking marijuana is not going to make you decide to go out and snort and eightball unless you already had the urge to do it. Anybody who says that smoking pot caused them to do other drugs is making an excuse. Just like when a female has 1 beer and tries to say that's why she slept with a guy.
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#56
#56
bignewt said:
gateway drug? Cmon Mr. Reagan give me a break. That term is such a pet peeve of mine. Cigarettes and coffee are gateway drugs. You sir are ignorant. I advise you to get a clue.

Should our players be smokin' herb? No. Will it lead to crack cocaine and sharing needles in the lockerroom? No.
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dude, the studies that show the tendencies of marijuana users to move on to other drugs is very very expansive.
 
#57
#57
bignewt said:
gateway drug? Cmon Mr. Reagan give me a break. That term is such a pet peeve of mine. Cigarettes and coffee are gateway drugs. You sir are ignorant. I advise you to get a clue.

Should our players be smokin' herb? No. Will it lead to crack cocaine and sharing needles in the lockerroom? No.
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Ignorant? Why go there? I'm just telling you what I know to be a fact. I am not trying to tell you what you should do or not do. I do however know quite a bit about addiction and know hundreds of addicts and their stories. I am not ignorant and don't appreciate being called ignorant by someone that doesn't know me.
 
#58
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GLDunlap said:
Ignorant? Why go there? I'm just telling you what I know to be a fact. I am not trying to tell you what you should do or not do. I do however know quite a bit about addiction and know hundreds of addicts and their stories. I am not ignorant and don't appreciate being called ignorant by someone that doesn't know me.
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it's not a fact it's an opinion based on a small sample size. I would guess I know quite a few people who smoked pot and never went any farther. Saying it's illegal is one thing but claiming it will have our guys with needles between their toes is quite a stretch.
 
#60
#60
govols182 said:
Wouldn't running sprints be part of workouts?
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As long as it's a voluntary workout with no coaches present - no problem. But the poster was saying coaches were there kicking off people and Coach O told Rico to leave. I call bs on all that.
 
#62
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UT IE 95 said:
As long as it's a voluntary workout with no coaches present - no problem. But the poster was saying coaches were there kicking off people and Coach O told Rico to leave. I call bs on all that.
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most all the posts have sounded that way. I really hope this is just uninformed chatter
 
#63
#63
I believe coaches have 8 hours a week with players for things such as running and workouts. Last week was voluntary workouts with Strength coach Mark Smith. I believe the coaches can supervise the "voluntary workout sessions" but the activities are just that voluntary. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.
 
#64
#64
GLDunlap said:
You're going to kick two young players off the team for speeding and having 4 grams of marijuana in their possession? I bet this has happend to more kids I know than UT football players. One of my friends was pulled over last month doing 60 in a 35 and had $300 worth of dro on him. It's not even going on his college apps.
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Your missing the open the container on Vinson and the fact that it's his second suspension of the season. With Jones he was hosting a possible recruit. So my answer is yes.
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GLDunlap said:
Actually if you read my post correctly you would see that I said Vinson should have been kicked off for the remainder of the season which was three or four games. In Jones case I only stated what I thought CLK would do compared to what CPF did.
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The above post sounds like you were saying that both should have been kicked off the team. I agree that CLK's actions would be much harsher but I doubt he would kick Jones off the team immediately for one minor mistake. I do agree that CLK would never let Jones represent UT to a recruit, though. I do think that CLK is going to be much harsher initially to put his stamp on the team and show that he means business.
 
#65
#65
utvolpj said:
it's not a fact it's an opinion based on a small sample size. I would guess I know quite a few people who smoked pot and never went any farther. Saying it's illegal is one thing but claiming it will have our guys with needles between their toes is quite a stretch.
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I never said it would have our players in needles. Where did you read where I or anyone else said that? The only thing I have said is that marijuana is a gateway drug. That is a fact not something I believe personally but a fact. Maybe you don't believe that and that's ok I could care less, but don't take a snipet of my post and try to make it look like I said something that I never even remotely come close to saying. It is a fact not an opinion based on a small sample size but I am not hear to debate marijuana and it's effects. I have an opinion and you have an opinion that doesn't make me right or you wrong. It also doesn't make me ignorant like another poster stated.
 
#66
#66
DaytonLawVol said:
I have much, much, much more important things to think about and things to do with my time then worry about the legalization of weed. Besides, weed is for wussies, if you want to really screw yourself up, go snort some coke or do some meth, quit being a baby about it and do it for real. :peace2:
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Oh, real men snort coke? It's like that? You can keep the pasty, pale, sweaty look to yourself. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in people who criticize others for smoking pot and go home and get drunk. BTW, you obviously don't know much about pot. There are strains that will have you on your arse wondering where you are.
 
#68
#68
DaytonLawVol said:
dude, the studies that show the tendencies of marijuana users to move on to other drugs is very very expansive.
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You can say the same thing about anything. Most people have tried pot at least once. It is also true that most people who do drugs have tried pot and smoked it first because it is tame and easy to get. However, the pot doesn't lead them to try other drugs. The urge that got them to try pot is what leads them to other drugs. Those are bs studies to fit an anti-marijuana agenda. They have elements of truth but don't tell the whole story.
 
#70
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gainesvol82 said:
The above post sounds like you were saying that both should have been kicked off the team. I agree that CLK's actions would be much harsher but I doubt he would kick Jones off the team immediately for one minor mistake. I do agree that CLK would never let Jones represent UT to a recruit, though. I do think that CLK is going to be much harsher initially to put his stamp on the team and show that he means business.
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I see what your saying but that quote was a response to another poster who asked my opinion, it wasn't from my original post. I never said or think that anyone should have been permanently kicked off the team but I don't think CLK would have handed out the same punishments which was the original intent of my post.
 
#71
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GLDunlap said:
I never said it would have our players in needles. Where did you read where I or anyone else said that? The only thing I have said is that marijuana is a gateway drug. That is a fact not something I believe personally but a fact. Maybe you don't believe that and that's ok I could care less, but don't take a snipet of my post and try to make it look like I said something that I never even remotely come close to saying. It is a fact not an opinion based on a small sample size but I am not hear to debate marijuana and it's effects. I have an opinion and you have an opinion that doesn't make me right or you wrong. It also doesn't make me ignorant like another poster stated.
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If I know more about weed than you I can have the opinion that you are ignorant on the subject compared to me. Its just an opinion-we all have them. Im sure there are some things that you would say Im ignorant about. This is not the place for feelings getting knocked out mi amigo.
 
#72
#72
GLDunlap said:
I never said it would have our players in needles. Where did you read where I or anyone else said that? The only thing I have said is that marijuana is a gateway drug. That is a fact not something I believe personally but a fact. Maybe you don't believe that and that's ok I could care less, but don't take a snipet of my post and try to make it look like I said something that I never even remotely come close to saying. It is a fact not an opinion based on a small sample size but I am not hear to debate marijuana and it's effects. I have an opinion and you have an opinion that doesn't make me right or you wrong. It also doesn't make me ignorant like another poster stated.
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Marijuana=Gateway drug reminds me of how people refer to Tampa 2 as a defensive scheme or the Spread offense. It's just a catchphrase that oversimplifies things. Yes, people who smoke pot sometimes move on to other drugs. It wasn't the weed that made them do it, though.
 
#73
#73
gainesvol82 said:
You can say the same thing about anything. Most people have tried pot at least once. It is also true that most people who do drugs have tried pot and smoked it first because it is tame and easy to get. However, the pot doesn't lead them to try other drugs. The urge that got them to try pot is what leads them to other drugs. Those are bs studies to fit an anti-marijuana agenda. They have elements of truth but don't tell the whole story.
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preach it brother! :rock:
 
#74
#74
GLDunlap said:
I see what your saying but that quote was a response to another poster who asked my opinion, it wasn't from my original post. I never said or think that anyone should have been permanently kicked off the team but I don't think CLK would have handed out the same punishments which was the original intent of my post.
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:eek:k: Gotcha. I agree.
 
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