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Stew Cook said:
If only by the fact that he could afford Dershowitz and Ken Starr,. I suppose his money was able to buy their influence. Apparently Acosta, or representatives for the prosecution, were meeting directly with Epstein's lawyers, hammering out the plea deal.
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It's one thing if there was a thorough investigation, you look at the evidence, see that it's a borderline case, look at the likely opposing counsel, and decide to pass.

It's another thing if, due to the suspect's influence, you didn't even get the thorough investigation part.
 
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#829
Stew Cook said:
Out of curiosity, how does one earn the title of RINO. Is the only requirement to be part of a scandal?
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To pretend to be a Conservative Republican but vote in a non-conservative manner is my definition which basically means they lack the character and integrity to do what they promised the people that voted for them.

Edit: An example is we will repeal Obamacare, We will Build a Wall, etc.
 
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Velo Vol said:
It's one thing if there was a thorough investigation, you look at the evidence, see that it's a borderline case, look at the likely opposing counsel, and decide to pass.

It's another thing if, due to the suspect's influence, you didn't even get the thorough investigation part.
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You seem to be giving abundant benefit of the doubt. Personally, I think the level of leniency, is proportional to Epstein's influence, and possibly his level of leverage.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
To pretend to be a Conservative Republican but vote in a non-conservative manner is my definition which basically means they lack the character and integrity to do what they promised the people that voted for them.

Edit: An example is we will repeal Obamacare, We will Build a Wall, etc.
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I see, so what about Amash, or at least before his GOP exodus?
 
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Stew Cook said:
I see, so what about Amash, or at least before his GOP exodus?
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I believe he was an admitted Libertarian that ran on a Republican Ticket but by the true definition of pretending to be a Republican but not then I guess he was a RINO up until now.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Do you think it likely the investigation got curtailed due to Epstein's money/influence?
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Sure. People with money get treated differently, all the time. Whether this was more than generic classism, I don’t know enough to say. It’s possible.

I think it’s an interesting situation, but I haven’t had a chance to look into it too much, and apparently being totally wrong in my assumption about the existence of this law, as applied to a declination or prosecution agreement,* has me wanting to read about the federal lawsuit before talking out of my ass, again.

How hard did the feds look at this? How much work actually went into negotiating the declination agreement? How strong were the cases? How much additional time could he have gotten from the feds? How much knowledge did they have of the details of the Florida plea agreement? How much outreach did they have from the victims? What responses did they receive and from whom?

I’d still want to know those things before calling for Acosta’s head.

* - after reading the statute, I’m still not 100% sure it applies to this precise situation, but this judge found they didn’t communicate sufficiently with the victims, so I’ll defer to him on the facts and applicability.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Sure. People with money get treated differently, all the time. Whether this was more than generic classism, I don’t know enough to say. It’s possible.

I think it’s an interesting situation, but I haven’t had a chance to look into it too much, and apparently being totally wrong in my assumption about the existence of this law, as applied to a declination or prosecution agreement,* has me wanting to read about the federal lawsuit before talking out of my ass, again.

How hard did the feds look at this? How much work actually went into negotiating the declination agreement? How strong were the cases? How much additional time could he have gotten from the feds? How much knowledge did they have of the details of the Florida plea agreement? How much outreach did they have from the victims? What responses did they receive and from whom?

I’d still want to know those things before calling for Acosta’s head.

* - after reading the statute, I’m still not 100% sure it applies to this precise situation, but this judge found they didn’t communicate sufficiently with the victims, so I’ll defer to him on the facts and applicability.
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That was my thought as well. It sounds to my admittedly ignorant self that it's a stretch. I wonder how much politics is behind that statement.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
To pretend to be a Conservative Republican but vote in a non-conservative manner is my definition which basically means they lack the character and integrity to do what they promised the people that voted for them.

Edit: An example is we will repeal Obamacare, We will Build a Wall, etc.
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So.. 98% of republicans by your definition.
 
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Vanity Fair: Trump Knew Jeffrey Epstein Had Incriminating Photos of Bill Clinton

Back in 2015, onstage at the annual CPAC conference, Trump said something very interesting about Bill Clinton. "Nice guy," he said. "Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. Lot of problems."
Trump knew what he was talking about. Vanity Fair reports that, shortly before CPAC, Trump was approached by David Pecker, who then owned the National Enquirer. Pecker visited Trump and brought along "an issue with a Prince Andrew and Epstein-related cover." They were joined by Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.
After the meeting, Trump called in Sam Nunberg, who then worked for him. Nunberg told Vanity Fair:

“Michael was sitting in there when I came in, and the issue of the National Enquirer with the pictures of Prince Andrew was on his desk. He said not to tell anyone, but that Pecker had just been there and had brought the issue with him. Trump said that Pecker had told him that the pictures of Clinton that Epstein had from his island were worse."​

What makes Vanity Fair's report double fascinating is that the leftist magazine clearly implies that Epstein doesn't have any dirt on Trump himself. On Twitter, leftist users have been tweeting hopefully about how this could ruin Trump's presidency. Vanity Fair knows better. When push comes to shove, this case will involve high-ranking and extremely influential Democrats.
 
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BUBear said:
Vanity Fair: Trump Knew Jeffrey Epstein Had Incriminating Photos of Bill Clinton

Back in 2015, onstage at the annual CPAC conference, Trump said something very interesting about Bill Clinton. "Nice guy," he said. "Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. Lot of problems."
Trump knew what he was talking about. Vanity Fair reports that, shortly before CPAC, Trump was approached by David Pecker, who then owned the National Enquirer. Pecker visited Trump and brought along "an issue with a Prince Andrew and Epstein-related cover." They were joined by Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.
After the meeting, Trump called in Sam Nunberg, who then worked for him. Nunberg told Vanity Fair:

“Michael was sitting in there when I came in, and the issue of the National Enquirer with the pictures of Prince Andrew was on his desk. He said not to tell anyone, but that Pecker had just been there and had brought the issue with him. Trump said that Pecker had told him that the pictures of Clinton that Epstein had from his island were worse."​

What makes Vanity Fair's report double fascinating is that the leftist magazine clearly implies that Epstein doesn't have any dirt on Trump himself. On Twitter, leftist users have been tweeting hopefully about how this could ruin Trump's presidency. Vanity Fair knows better. When push comes to shove, this case will involve high-ranking and extremely influential Democrats.
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Well, how bout dat? I guess time will tell.
 
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