Peyton not going to bat for Tee????

[FiremedicVOL127]

How can Peyton not go to bat for Tee when so many other VFL players are doing so?

Guys,
After today's Gundy debacle, for the second time, truly saddens me.

I would have got the deal done with Tee and re-united the fan base unless Gundy was already a done deal.

I truly don't understand why Peyton still refuses to go to bat for Tee on the search committee.

Tee has been true champion in everything that he's done.

Clemson's HC coach was a coordinator and so was Fulmer.

Somebody else is going to give Tee a shot and we're already at the bottom of the SEC.

I'd he honored to bring Tee home as the Vols next head coach.

Does Peyton have bad blood towards Tee??? and Peyton helped bring Butch into the fold.

Yea Tee won the big games Peyton couldn’t!!!!!!

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

You seem to be insinuating that Peyton has something against Tee, other than never being a head coach.

You also seem to have some kind of agenda against Peyton.

It seems like Peyton has some kind of agenda against us, after all he did sign off and support the whole Schiano hire cluster and is in Haslam back pocket rite along with Currie and Davenport. Ya notice who isn’t there tho, Fulmer the only one who wouldn’t agree to Schiano hire and well now pretty much doesn’t have a say in the search. Why cause he’s not a yes man to Haslam like the rest.

 

[Hopefulvol]

I've read several reports that Peyton is the reason Tee Martin isn't being contacted.

If so, Peyton needs to pony up and learn to coach. I am starting to think he is more loyal to the Haslams to the Vols, it makes me very sad, but it's true.

That's exactly where his loyalty lies bc that's where the $$$$$$ is and where he can get more into the NFL elite such as coaching being GM extra!! He will look out for Peyton!

 

[AstonRoyal]

I don’t understand some of you. Look, I’m with you on giving Tee a shot but I don’t understand all of this bashing on Peyton.

The guy your bashing is the same guy who put his dream on hold for a year to come back and help win us a championship. The same guy who donated over a million dollars to the university. He really doesn’t benefit from aligning himself with the Haslams like some of you are claiming, even if it is for a GM job (which btw, he really doesn’t need and probably doesn’t want because let’s be real, THE BROWNS?!)

If the stories are true that he’s against Tee coming back, I completely understand your frustrations with him. But I don’t understand the need to disrespect a man who’s done so much for our program and community.

 

[Hopefulvol]

It seems like Peyton has some kind of agenda against us, after all he did sign off and support the whole Schiano hire cluster and is in Haslam back pocket rite along with Currie and Davenport. Ya notice who isn’t there tho, Fulmer the only one who wouldn’t agree to Schiano hire and well now pretty much doesn’t have a say in the search. Why cause he’s not a yes man to Haslam like the rest.

What this guy said :lolabove: amen!!!

 

[AstonRoyal]

That's exactly where his loyalty lies bc that's where the $$$$$$ is and where he can get more into the NFL elite such as coaching being GM extra!! He will look out for Peyton!

Do you really think money is Peyton’s motivation? Do you know how many businesses he owns and receives passive income from. Additionally, he’s one of the most marketable guys out there, you really think he can’t make millions doing sports broadcasting or more commercials?

Peyton Manning has done more for our university than all of us combine, myself included. No disrespect to you, but I’m shocked that I’m having to defend him to Vol fans right now.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

That's exactly where his loyalty lies bc that's where the $$$$$$ is and where he can get more into the NFL elite such as coaching being GM extra!! He will look out for Peyton!

Booyah, somebody gets it....... ding, ding, ding we have a winner!!!!!!

And if that’s the way he’s gonna be he can take his **** and get out along with the rest of em. UT is and will always be UT with or without him. It was before he got here and well we’re still goin.....just at a snails pace for the time being.

We need somebody to come in and drain the swamp in Knoxville!!!! Somebody with more power n money than I CAN MAKE TENNESSEE GREAT AGAIN!!!


I’ll help just don’t know how!!!!

 

[Vol24x7]

It would be so Tennessee if we never gave him a shot until hes's killing it somewhere else...Member that time Tee wanted the job, when we where an embarrassment?

Tee would do fine. Players love him and he's a great recruiter. Just bring in assistants with a lot of experience.

If we're actually worried about driving Tee out of town before he's hired....then maybe we should check how we act as fans too.

Tee Martin is the right choice, at this point. It makes too much sense. All the former players would love it. We just got rid of a jackass that treated our VFL program like ****.

If it doesn't work out fine, but at least you know what you're getting into. I couldn't say that about Jones,Dooley or Kiffin.

We saw how far Dobbs carried Butch's team. I'm willing to bet Tee can find a few studs a long the way.

 

[volfan102455]

Fulmer is already there and can be a special advisor to shorten the learning curve.

If it's going to come down to another mid major google hire or Tee, I'll take Tee.

If Tee needs someone to advise him, then he is not ready to be a head coach.

 

[Hopefulvol]

Do you really think money is Peyton’s motivation? Do you know how many businesses he owns and receives passive income from. Additionally, he’s one of the most marketable guys out there, you really think he can’t make millions doing sports broadcasting or more commercials?

Peyton Manning has done more for our university than all of us combine, myself included. No disrespect to you, but I’m shocked that I’m having to defend him to Vol fans right now.

Yup money makes the world go around and the more the better! Peyton has done lots never said that...Peyton is a supporter but I also think everyone wants to advance theirselves to not only him

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

If Tee needs someone to advise him, then he is not ready to be a head coach.

So let me get this rite, instead of aiding 1 of our own in advancing his career and allowing him to learn at “home” with help from the greatest coach in recent history at UT and the support of all his brothers that have been there and walked the walk and bled on the field for UT that truly understand what it actually means to be a VOL and the privilege it is to wear that beautiful orange uniform, you’d rather we just allow a$$hat to trot out another coach to get us to the dadgum belk bowl if we’re lucky instead of taking a chance with COACH TEE????

NEWSFLASH FOLKS...... we’re not great no more hell we aren’t even good anymore thanks to these past “diamond in the ruff” hires!!!! It’s ok for us to take a chance on a Dooley, Jones and no who ever and support it but we can’t 1 of our own...... times are sad on Rocky Top......I think we need to re-evaluate the VFL meaning cause it seems to me that it just depends on who you are as to if we the fans and the university will actually acknowledge ya or not!!!!

 

[jsc1973]

Maybe,Maybe not, But do we want a trial and see guy, at the lowest point in UT history??
I don’t , UT players or not

Tee Martin might come to UT as head coach and just be another Mike Shula, a former star QB who came home to a big-time program and turned out to be over his head. It's certainly possible.

At the same time, though, Shula had never coached a day in college football; he'd only been in the NFL. And part of the reason he broke into coaching right away is because of his last name. Tee Martin is OC at USC right now because he earned his way there, not because he was born on third base and everyone thought he hit a triple.

He's 39 years old, and that's about the age where most highly successful coaches get their first HC gig at a major college program. Barry Switzer and Tom Osborne were both 36, Bob Stoops was 39, Urban Meyer was 37, Nick Saban was 39, Phil Fulmer was 42, and there are a bunch of others I could rattle off, too. And all of them were coordinators who were getting their first HC assignment.

In other words, Tee Martin is as ready as he's ever going to be, if he's going to be that caliber of coach. Which, of course, is a big "if." But we're not in this for 7-5 seasons and Weedeater bowls, we're in it for the whole ball of wax. So, should UT hire some guy like Dave Doeren or Chad Morris who will probably deliver 7-5 seasons and Weedeater bowls, or should we take a chance on someone who might turn out to be like those guys I just mentioned?

Do I want the "trial and see" guy, who might be a home run, as opposed to the guy who will guarantee mediocrity? Yes, I do. And it doesn't have to be Tee Martin...if there's another guy out there with that profile who's better, great. But give me a guy like that any day over a guy we know won't get the job done the way we want it done.

 

[508mikey]

Fulmer is already there and can be a special advisor to shorten the learning curve.

If it's going to come down to another mid major google hire or Tee, I'll take Tee.

Been working out pretty good at Wisconsin

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Do you really think money is Peyton’s motivation? Do you know how many businesses he owns and receives passive income from. Additionally, he’s one of the most marketable guys out there, you really think he can’t make millions doing sports broadcasting or more commercials?

Peyton Manning has done more for our university than all of us combine, myself included. No disrespect to you, but I’m shocked that I’m having to defend him to Vol fans right now.

Ya probly wouldn’t have to defend himnif he’d get outta Haslam pocket and do the rite thing!!!! Andbthe rite thing is not supporting a freaking Schiano hire for starters and #2 stop being a roadblock between a former VOL who wants the job and the possibility of it actually happening.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Maybe,Maybe not, But do we want a trial and see guy, at the lowest point in UT history??
I don’t , UT players or not

NEWSFLASH

Whoever we hire is going to be a try and see guy cause nobody with experience and success is coming here thanks to this sorry a$$ administration we have in place!!!!!!

 

[AstonRoyal]

Ya probly wouldn’t have to defend himnif he’d get outta Haslam pocket and do the rite thing!!!! Andbthe rite thing is not supporting a freaking Schiano hire for starters and #2 stop being a roadblock between a former VOL who wants the job and the possibility of it actually happening.

First off, I highly doubt he’s in “haslam’s pocket”, I honestly don’t see how he’d benefit from it.

Second, just because he has a different opinion doesn’t make him wrong.

I agree with you that we should give Tee a shot, but I don’t believe we accusing Peyton of being in Haslam’s pocket or disrespecting the man cause he has a different opinion (if the STORIES are true)

 

[volfan102455]

How can Peyton not go to bat for Tee when so many other VFL players are doing so?

Guys,
After today's Gundy debacle, for the second time, truly saddens me.

I would have got the deal done with Tee and re-united the fan base unless Gundy was already a done deal.

I truly don't understand why Peyton still refuses to go to bat for Tee on the search committee.

Tee has been true champion in everything that he's done.

Clemson's HC coach was a coordinator and so was Fulmer.

Somebody else is going to give Tee a shot and we're already at the bottom of the SEC.

I'd he honored to bring Tee home as the Vols next head coach.

Does Peyton have bad blood towards Tee??? and Peyton helped bring Butch into the fold.

Tee is not ready to be a HC at an SEC school. If Peyton is not in favor of this then he probably has the best interest of both his alma mater and his former team mate in mind.

Those who are pushing for him are not thinking objectively at all about where he is really at in his growth as a coach.

As some have said, if Tennessee hires Tee, then you all had better be ready for 6 to 10 years of struggling while he learns and makes mistakes. And you had better be ready when the fan base becomes more divided when he fails and some blame everyone but him and others blame him and no one wants to see him fired because he is a VFL.

I really don't understand why all of a sudden it is acceptable to take a coach that will need "on the job training" when that was the biggest complaint that folks had of the last three HC at Tennessee.

Have folks lost their mind? Or have they just given up on the thought of finding a coach that has actual experience as either a HC or long term experience (e.g. > 2 seasons) as a coordinator? Some need to take their VFL blinders off. The program more than ever needs an experienced head football coach.

Let him get the experience he needs and prove that he can at least function at the HC level first.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

First off, I highly doubt he’s in “haslam’s pocket”, I honestly don’t see how he’d benefit from it.

Second, just because he has a different opinion doesn’t make him wrong.

I agree with you that we should give Tee a shot, but I don’t believe we accusing Peyton of being in Haslam’s pocket or disrespecting the man cause he has a different opinion (if the STORIES are true)

Putting your stamp so to speak on a hire like Schiano is more than just a opinion but that’s just my 2 cents. After watching the past several years go by being a UT fan and having to constantly watch the news with the title 9 lawsuit and then all the stories leaking about the AJ issue with the players involved there being accused of rape and the testimonies from players and previous players of how Jones handled it all that to me is negative publicity that is not needed. So fast forward and UT somewhat is gettin a clean name and clean image the lawsuit is settled and the players are quite and now we have a chance to make a great hire and the top choice that is supported by Manning comes with a uhaul full of baggage even if it is hearsay or speculation that is not something you want associated with the university you love!!! Cause you know as well as I do that the media is ripping us for what our fan base done but if it had been Alabama or Florida or anybody else they would support them. Well vice versa, if we had of went thru with the hire the media would’ve roasted us for doing. Tennessee is and has been a easy target for media for several several several years it’s only common sense to try to protect yourself and keep it from happening!!! Instead it’s like we’re tryin to get laughed at and made fun of at the expense of our fans and players cause our admin and boosters and power players (Manning) obviously don’t give 2 ****s about it. So yea I am beginning to believe he is a yes man for Haslam and it has to do with money and self promotion.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

So let me get this rite, instead of aiding 1 of our own in advancing his career and allowing him to learn at “home” with help from the greatest coach in recent history at UT and the support of all his brothers that have been there and walked the walk and bled on the field for UT that truly understand what it actually means to be a VOL and the privilege it is to wear that beautiful orange uniform, you’d rather we just allow a$$hat to trot out another coach to get us to the dadgum belk bowl if we’re lucky instead of taking a chance with COACH TEE????

NEWSFLASH FOLKS...... we’re not great no more hell we aren’t even good anymore thanks to these past “diamond in the ruff” hires!!!! It’s ok for us to take a chance on a Dooley, Jones and no who ever and support it but we can’t 1 of our own...... times are sad on Rocky Top......I think we need to re-evaluate the VFL meaning cause it seems to me that it just depends on who you are as to if we the fans and the university will actually acknowledge ya or not!!!!

Great point

 

[felloffthetrain]

Maybe,Maybe not, But do we want a trial and see guy, at the lowest point in UT history??
I don’t , UT players or not

Phillip Fulmer was an assistant coach when he took over for Majors. Dooley was an NFL coach prior to Tennessee, as was Kiffin. Butch couldn't cut it in a major conference. At this point, what can it hurt? We've been all over the place with coaching hires and none of them have panned out. Might as well start looking in our own back yard. There's nowhere left to go but up from here

 

[volfan102455]

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He's 39 years old, and that's about the age where most highly successful coaches get their first HC gig at a major college program. Barry Switzer and Tom Osborne were both 36, Bob Stoops was 39, Urban Meyer was 37, Nick Saban was 39, Phil Fulmer was 42, and there are a bunch of others I could rattle off, too. And all of them were coordinators who were getting their first HC assignment.

You are confusing age with time on the job. Nick Saban had coached for 17 years before he became head coach at Toledo (a MAC school). In his 23rd year of coaching he would become HC at MSU. Stoops spend 16 years as an assistance, 8 as a DC, before becoming a HC. Switzer, 13 years, 7 as a coordinator. Fulmer logged 20 years as an assistant before he became HC at Tennessee. Urban Meyer coached 15 years before becoming HC at Bowling Green (... which is not the SEC ...). Tom Osborne is the only one that was fast tracked like you are suggesting for Martin and even he spent 4 years as the OC at Nebraska before assuming the HC duties.

Martin has been coaching in college for 9 years, mostly as a position coach - the last 2 as an OC. Yes he did coach in high school for 2 years but not as a HC.

Tennessee fans have shown they do not have patience to let a coach learn on the job. I don't see that changing anytime soon - if anything they want to win and win now.

The program is in need of an experienced coach that has the ability to take control of the program, block out the noise that happens when things are not going as expected and keep the team focused.

The AD needs to get the best coach it can find for the job otherwise we will be back at this same point in 2 to 4 years.

 

[volfan102455]

Phillip Fulmer was an assistant coach when he took over for Majors. Dooley was an NFL coach prior to Tennessee, as was Kiffin. Butch couldn't cut it in a major conference. At this point, what can it hurt? We've been all over the place with coaching hires and none of them have panned out. Might as well start looking in our own back yard. There's nowhere left to go but up from here

Actually it could get worse - like 0-12 worse.

 

[tha truth]

Because Tee ain't on this level. Get over it

Bruh you’re a fool

 

[Volbrando]

Because Tee ain't on this level. Get over it

Pretty sure any coach we get now won’t be on this level. So roll the dice with someone who has orange blood and we know can recruit

 

[lonelawyer]

Because Tee ain't on this level. Get over it

Clemson didn't think some WR coach named Dabo wasn't on their level. But he seems to be making a go of it.