Per Austin Price - expect Shrout to get the nod tomorrow

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Sounds like nobody really knows for sure which is likely the way Pruitt wants it and is pretty dang good at gamesmanship.
 
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sjt18 said:
Physically they're similar players except JG seems to be more accurate and Shrout seems to have a stronger arm. Only by degrees on both.

What we know that JG can't do isn't physical though. He doesn't make good reads. He takes too long to process info. He lacks the confidence to anticipate throws or lead receivers into catches. He's very risk averse and will quickly go to the check down or safe throw when a better play is available.

We don't know how Shrout will do making decisions. We do know JG is terrible at it. The physical part matters much, much less.
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This was my problem.. I understand and think I know the mental side of the equation of JG as well as any of us and the lack of same for Shrout. It was the differences in talent that I wanted to know. Thanks for the comparison. This points up what I was saying that SC has to prepare on plan for whoever plays. No difference as I see it. Coach P seems to be playing the waiting game for the benefit of us fans and our reaction. If it is JG....
 
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KBVol said:
Agreed. Last year yes, absolutely, he was by far our best option.

This year?...he’s gone from a fairly solid, mistake free QB who could occasionally elevate his play to a high level and win some games (auburn and Kentucky), to an absolute bust who not only doesn’t help you win but who actually causes you to lose.

Gotta start Shrout and see what you have with him, see what he can do. And the only way JG sees the field is if Shrout’s play is catastrophic.
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Glad you recognize him now. But you are still wrong about last year. They protected him and he played so risk averse that his "averages" looked good even though he was nowhere near productive or effective enough to make the O go.

It isn't that he's worse this year as much as what they've demanded of him has exposed him more.
 
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90 Vol said:
Sounds like nobody really knows for sure which is likely the way Pruitt wants it and is pretty dang good at gamesmanship.
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I’ve said it before and again now....


I hate it but he learn how to deal with the media from the master.
 
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savannahfan said:
This was my problem.. I understand and think I know the mental side of the equation of JG as well as any of us and the lack of same for Shrout. It was the differences in talent that I wanted to know. Thanks for the comparison. This points up what I was saying that SC has to prepare on plan for whoever plays. No difference as I see it. Coach P seems to be playing the waiting game for the benefit of us fans and our reaction. If it is JG....
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I don't think we know that though. It isn't arm talent that makes Maurer so deadly with RPO's and JG... not. I don't know if Shrout can accurately stick an RPO like Maurer. I don't know if Shrout can anticipate throws and throw guys open. JG has proven he pretty much can't. Last year Pruitt when asked about JG and KC volunteered that Shrout anticipated throws the best of the 3.

I don't think your question can be answered until we see Shrout get some "real" playing time.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
All Shrout needs is the right game plan:

Short passes to get his feet under him and hand the ball off to Jordan. Big backs in the rain all day long.
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Supposedly Shrout has a big arm. I'd try to hit some throws over the top and then pound them with the running game.
 
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Run the ball short passes then when we get to the forty let Shrout air it out a few times. Will definitely have to play it safe with him inside the forty he has not idea where his passes are going.
 
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I agree with the decision, but I'm already cringing at the thought of him dropping back to pass. Saturday will probably be filled with a lot of anxiety for me. I can already hear the voices in my head.. "Please don't throw a pick. Please don't throw a pick."
 
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tim said:
Agree but he gives us the best opportunity to win in the rain imo.
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Like it or not, I agree with this. IF Shrout starts, maybe Pruitt told JG he's going to come in off the bench like Lamonte Turner...seems he does come in more settled off the bench. Regardless, Muschamp will lick his chops against a first time starter on stunts/blitz's. JMO...a conservative JG game plan gives us best chance to win. I just haven't seen Shrout show much off the bench so far, but you know whoever they put out there, they think gives us best chance to win...so, I'm good either way.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
All Shrout needs is the right game plan:

Short passes to get his feet under him and hand the ball off to Jordan. Big backs in the rain all day long.
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Sounds simple enough and probably only thing you can do with Shrout at this time. Unfortunatelly this is also exactly what Muschamp is expecting and getting ready for.
The question our staff is probably asking is whether JG actually could finally turn things around - it may not seem likely but that is the dilemma (if JG is by some miracle able to turn it around then Chaney has the full playbook available which is huge when you go against defensive specialist like Muschamp).
 
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Not a hard guess to think Shrout starts. Team basically knows it’s an L with JG starting and the staff doesn’t know if he will run the called play. As much of a risk as it is to play Shrout at least you know he’ll run the called play.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Shout has not looked good at all in the limited playing time he has. Has a strong arm but very inaccurate might as well just roll with JG
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We haven't seen Shrout in a game with a game plan tailored for him yet, just like when people wrote Maurer off after the UF game.
 
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I would like to see Shrout start then, if necessary, have JG come in to relieve. Personally, I think JG plays better coming off the bench.
 
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So all of you who want JG to be run out on a rail want to lose just for revenge? I think will be a cold day in hell before JG does something like that again. If he is the best option to get a win then he should play. I would hate to lose just to prove a point.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
So all of you who want JG to be run out on a rail want to lose just for revenge? I think will be a cold day in hell before JG does something like that again. If he is the best option to get a win then he should play. I would hate to lose just to prove a point.
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So, you don't want people to be done with JG however you want to trash JT by saying he can't do it before even seeing him play? You really think Pruitt is losing to Will Muschamp and SC just to prove a point?
 
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