Peace Out

#76
#76
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
Do we have to have these dumb a** whiny posts every day now?
 
#78
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I haven't read about a g league, but if that is the direction CFB is trending, I can tell you that this will be a classic example of so many bad business decisions (and the worst) that I have consulted people not to make.

Too often hires and fires are based on affinity or lack thereof, and too often business strategy based on ideas as opposed to data. I can't tell you how many businesses have seen exponential growth by following my research, data-based strategies while those who chose to go in another direction either failed or returned to the strategy I put in place.

That said, viewership is what drives revenue in sports through tickets and media. Without it, stadiums are empty and media outlets starve, because their advertisers also lose their audiences.

Right now what drives viewership in college sports is the school brand. Some of which have been around over a century.. Those who are loyal to these brands If it were solely about the sport, then the majority of people would watch every team as much as they watch their own.

So, a g league would be most likely trying to pull from both NFL and CFB audiences, initially, while trying to create a league and brands to rival brands and a league that took over a century to build the value it has to its advertisers in the form of audiences to advertise to. Not to mention, these teams would not even have their own stadiums which would cost small fortunes to build.

The only things such a move will accomplish is complete failure and damage to CFB. It would take billions of dollars and years to rectify a league that would rival CFB even IF it were ever to get there, and I just don't think it ever would. The move would also cost those who shifted their interest from CFB to Gleague incremental amounts of money.

You simply won't have people watching the sport anymore that care more about their brand than the sport itself.

Not only that, the coaches and players of both leagues will end up making crumbs, because what audiences are left will be smaller and therefore advertising dollars will be lesser.

I could go on and on, but I will leave it with this. Such a move would be asinine at best. It's basic math... And no ESPN will not be able to help juice the sport. It has had enough power to lobby for Woodson to win the Heisman over Manning, but let's face it. CFB and NFL made ESPN as much as ESPN helped expand CFB and the NFL.

This isn't apples to apples, this is a raisin to a watermelon.

Collegefootball we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
 
#80
#80
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
Me too!
 
#81
#81
I watch more NFL now because you don’t kid yourself about the “pageantry” of college football. That is long gone and never coming back. But pulling for Cowboys (1) and Titans (2) is not much fun either 😆.
So, you’re pulling for the Texas teams, you forgot the Texans. Strange that Houston has 2 teams.
 
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No one in power is going to care until ticket sales drop, seats are empty, ratings drop, and traffic on sites like this fade. Until then, it’s all about the $$$$. They are not worried about purists and old school fans finding other things to do. They will care when all these old guys with money pass on and the next generation has other interests and no longer supports college athletics or NIL crap.
 
#83
#83
Some of y'all are too cool, real aloof, hard ass tough guys regarding your fandom
I think some of the division between those who preach krass acceptance (@Hairy Vol), and those who display passionate defiance (@fUTure), is the difference in generations.
Older generations would stand up and protest things they didn't like and attempt to spur change, correction. They feel some entitlement when they have supported something through time, money, and concern.
The newer generations think it stronger to swallow whatever they're force fed and confuse the act with toughness, when they don't push back. They exercise congnitive isolationism to combat against the attachments that grow from investing like the passionate group.

And, the business model we're seeing is more akin to socialism rather than capitalism.
'X' school makes 'x' dollars off of its fanbase's enthusiasm for 'x' team. So, the incoming players now want an even share of the income, even though they did nothing prior to support the industry they now feel entitled to receive premature and arbitrary compensation from, just because the school already has had the success and done the work to create the lucrative platform. That's socialism.
Capitalism is, a player worked hard, created a value in theirselves, and after that, they can then go out and get a "slice of the pie", on a truly open-market.
Capitalism doesn't owe anyone anything, and nor do the schools owe future or current players based on what the market says they could eventually be worth, just because they've made money off the sport and players in the past.

The problem is, the market is so upside down, top dollar is being paid for unknown commodities, and that alone is going to bleed the sport dry of both interest and finances.
The sport of college football will not outlast this market correction proficy, if it continues to cannibalize itself at the current rate, and at the behest of the players' greed and indecisiveness.
They are not fit to lead the industry into continued prosperity and functionality, based on their "ownership" of the market for the past few years.
They're bleeding the opportunities earned by those who came before them dry of finances and interest in the process.
If Future has been a fan for 50 years, than I'm certain losing fans like them, in masses eventually, will not be good for the "product(s)"
Well spoken.
 
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I keep responding to these post because the ideology truly amazes me. Have yall been living under a rock? 50 years and you really think only NOW it has been about the money for the players? Nothing has changed.

That said this is the first post I've ever seen from you. Less than two year old account with less than 100 posts.

This board won't be the same without you.
False. Much has changed. A Honda civic and a band of cash is much different that millions out of high school. Let’s not try to act like the two are anywhere near like. Was shady stuff going on then? Of course.

But now there are no rules on transfers and these kids went from a little cash sweetening the deal to the top 2% of earners in the nation. Light years apart.
 
#86
#86
Yes. I agree. Fans with no standards.
They are replacing you with the low IQ and low information fan. They prefer the new breed of fan.

Are we really going to question IQs after seeing the grammatical skills of the OP? Come on fellas... Don't open up a jar of peanut butter if you have a tree nut allergy.
 
#87
#87
Are we really going to question IQs after seeing the grammatical skills of the OP? Come on fellas... Don't open up a jar of peanut butter if you have a tree nut allergy.
Do you actually know his IQ? Do you think he sat for the test and you can gain access to it? Is grammar and spelling a good barometer of intelligence?

Or did you just want to score some imaginary points by an indirect criticism of the OP.

Super cool peanut butter line. Only high IQ types can come up with lines like that.
 
#88
#88
I now just cheer for the brand. In the past I pulled for both the brand and players. Now players are fungible and there is no loyalty to the brand. When it gets to the "Ktown Stars", Memphis Chicks and Nashville Pups-I am out.
 
#90
#90
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
see you in a month.
 
#91
#91
As the college game converts to semi-pro maybe the intramural sports will see a resurgence. I would watch the best UT intramural football team take on an Alabama team.

That is sort of how all this thing started out a couple centuries ago. Let’s run it back and start over.
 
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As the college game converts to semi-pro maybe the intramural sports will see a resurgence. I would watch the best UT intramural football team take on an Alabama team.

That is sort of how all this thing started out a couple centuries ago. Let’s run it back and start over.

That is exactly what I want, and why I'm all for taking the semi-pro team and punting them to their own league with their own facilities and their own companies. Just go. You want it so bad, just go. And the people who are determined to just watch "great football" can go with them. If none of the stupid college stuff mattered before it was sold off, then why care now? I've seen plenty of people say "I don't care if they're students, it doesn't matter." Well hell, go for it. Just go watch your semi-pro league teams play. Have fun with that.

And the rest of us, who support Tennessee, can welcome back players who value being out there and value the opportunity. Sure, it won't be financial pretty for a long while. Maybe never. Maybe it'll be very thin years for a long time, surviving on silly things like donations and donor gifts. Maybe it would fail. But maybe it wouldn't. Maybe we could get back to a proper SEC, where teams play proper rivals, kickoff happens when school want it to happen, and maybe just maybe fans could pay the schools to watch a stream of the game but it doesn't have to be a multi-billion dollar hustle bought and owned by media conglomerates.

If Div 2 teams can make it work, so can other schools. People are just too chicken to let go of all that money, all that validation from being big name brands on TV.
 
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#93
#93
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
If you say so. See you next season for the first game. GBO.
 
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That is exactly what I want, and why I'm all for taking the semi-pro team and punting them to their own league with their own facilities and their own companies. Just go. You want it so bad, just go. And the people who are determined to just watch "great football" can go with them. If none of the stupid college stuff mattered before it was sold off, then why care now? I've seen plenty of people say "I don't care if they're students, it doesn't matter." Well hell, go for it. Just go watch your semi-pro league teams play. Have fun with that.

And the rest of us, who support Tennessee, can welcome back players who value being out there and value the opportunity. Sure, it won't be financial pretty for a long while. Maybe never. Maybe it'll be very thin years for a long time, surviving on silly things like donations and donor gifts. Maybe it would fail. But maybe it wouldn't. Maybe we could get back to a proper SEC, where teams play proper rivals, kickoff happens when school want it to happen, and maybe just maybe fans could pay the schools to watch a stream of the game but it doesn't have to be a multi-billion dollar hustle bought and owned by media conglomerates.

If Div 2 teams can make it work, so can other schools. People are just too chicken to let go of all that money, all that validation from being big name brands on TV.
I can get behind this.
 
#97
#97
I keep responding to these post because the ideology truly amazes me. Have yall been living under a rock? 50 years and you really think only NOW it has been about the money for the players? Nothing has changed.

That said this is the first post I've ever seen from you. Less than two year old account with less than 100 posts.

This board won't be the same without you.
It’s been said that Rose Kennedy once said that Kennedy women dont expect their husbands to be faithful, they just don’t want it flaunted. I feel thats what’s going on with fans suddenly fed up with college sports. They were cool with this stuff until it was out in the open.
 
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College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
I find myself with some of the same feelings, however, I end up watching because I love Tennessee, The Big Orange, Give Em Six, (you know the rest, lol). I am seeing some apathy sneaking into my fandom though, not knowing when games are starting, missing completely. That has never happened before, but it just doesn’t seem as important anymore.
 

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