Peace Out

#51
#51
Berry4Heisman14 said:
I don’t think I could ever abandon the vols for good, but I am less interested than I used to be and enjoy putting my focus onto other things like guitar more now
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Agree. I’ll still watch on TV but I’m pretty sure I’ve made my last trip to Knoxville (after 60 years of doing it) to enjoy overpriced tickets, outrageous hotel prices and talent fees to procure mercenaries. Will spend my time and money on my grandkids and improving my golf game.

And for those that say “Bye”, I can assure you I’m not the only longtime Vol fan with those feelings. The exodus won’t happen overnight but give it a couple of years if they don’t get some semblance of control on it.
 
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Delmar said:
Agree. I’ll still watch on TV but I’m pretty sure I’ve made my last trip to Knoxville (after 60 years of doing it) to enjoy overpriced tickets, outrageous hotel prices and talent fees to procure mercenaries. Will spend my time and money on my grandkids and improving my golf game.

And for those that say “Bye”, I can assure you I’m not the only longtime Vol fan with those feelings. The exodus won’t happen overnight but give it a couple of years if they don’t get some semblance of control on it.
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They are replacing you with the low IQ and low information fan. They prefer the new breed of fan.
 
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#54
Some of y'all are too cool, real aloof, hard ass tough guys regarding your fandom
I think some of the division between those who preach krass acceptance (@Hairy Vol), and those who display passionate defiance (@fUTure), is the difference in generations.
Older generations would stand up and protest things they didn't like and attempt to spur change, correction. They feel some entitlement when they have supported something through time, money, and concern.
The newer generations think it stronger to swallow whatever they're force fed and confuse the act with toughness, when they don't push back. They exercise congnitive isolationism to combat against the attachments that grow from investing like the passionate group.

And, the business model we're seeing is more akin to socialism rather than capitalism.
'X' school makes 'x' dollars off of its fanbase's enthusiasm for 'x' team. So, the incoming players now want an even share of the income, even though they did nothing prior to support the industry they now feel entitled to receive premature and arbitrary compensation from, just because the school already has had the success and done the work to create the lucrative platform. That's socialism.
Capitalism is, a player worked hard, created a value in theirselves, and after that, they can then go out and get a "slice of the pie", on a truly open-market.
Capitalism doesn't owe anyone anything, and nor do the schools owe future or current players based on what the market says they could eventually be worth, just because the universities made money off the sport and players in the past.

The problem is, the market is so upside down, top dollar is being paid for unknown commodities, and that alone is going to bleed the sport dry of both interest and finances.
The sport of college football will not live to see or outlast this market correction proficy, if it continues to cannibalize itself at the current rate, and at the behest of the players' greed and indecisiveness.
They are not fit to lead the industry into continued prosperity and functionality, based on their "ownership" of the market for the past few years.
They're bleeding the opportunities earned by those who came before them dry of finances and interest in the process.
If Future has been a fan for 50 years, than I'm certain losing fans like them, in masses eventually, will not be good for the "product(s)"
 
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10seV4L said:
The-- don't be too loud, this is a family event, text the silent hotline to police your fellow fans, crowd. Wine and cheese instead of beer and chaddar-brats.
*Dystopian future where cheers are texted-in, calculated and quantified by some proprietary metric, then reproduced in a subjectively equivalent applause track across the PA.
Yay! GBO!... wait, was that too loud or offensive?! Lmao
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We have seen the future and it is us.
 
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GrayWaterCanine said:
They are replacing you with the low IQ and low information fan. They prefer the new breed of fan.
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The-- don't be too loud, this is a family event, text the silent hotline to police your fellow fans, crowd.
Wine and cheese instead of beer and cheddar-brats.

*Dystopian future where cheers are texted-in, calculated and quantified by some proprietary metric, then reproduced in a subjectively equivalent applause track across the PA.
Yay! GBO!... wait, was that too loud or offensive?! Lmao
 
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vols 30 said:
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We should bemoan the loss of our more seasoned and die-hard fan base, not hold the door for them with ridicule.
It doesn't make you superior or "cool" to under value @fUTure's fandom or the slow death of it. They're sorrow should only be mourned and championed with whatever comes next, not celebrated, imho. They're time and money invested being longer than some posters entire lives, should be reason enough to show some veneration.
Imma tweener, so I'm petrified by the paradox between both sides. I have the passion of the die-hards, but the calice of the newer generations.
However, and more importantly-- I show respect to both sides, and loathe posts such as this one (Willy Wonka's disinterested plea to remain), probably more than the folks that hate to open and read the OP
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
You need a bottle and a nap.

I swear some of you are Charmin soft.
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I believe you confuse being passionate and disappointed with soft, which is counterintuitive and ironic.
Most ppl who are passionate about something, do not take it lightly, and thus are incapable of being soft, as you suggest.

I would much rather face an opposition dis-connected and dis-interested in the conflict, than face an opponent who gives all the effs.
A man with something to fight for, is a dangerous man. And a man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.

Don't mistake compassion for weakness, is my advice; seeing as how you were adamant about posting your 2¢ regarding
 
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kckempf said:
I always thought this take was ridiculous and easily disproven. There's no big fandom coalescing around low majors and D-II teams who largely aren't talented enough to generate competition for their commitments. People aren't tuning in to see terrific uniforms or coaches or athletic directors. They're tuning in to watch great players. It's wild that it took over 100 years to get money to the people creating the value.
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So, I guess you also believe Wal-Mart employees or the ones working production jobs to produce goods, should be the highest paid ppl in the business too.
Imma a skilled laborer. I love the idea. I have thought the same thing my whole career, us boots on the ground should be the most well-compensated because I am how the infrastructure is built in the first place. Without me and those like me, y'all have no Internet or (any) control systems, to say the least.
But, imma hold my breath. You let me know when a million-dollar industry such as fiber optics and data/communications starts paying technicians like they do their CEO's; if my labor is what creates the product then I should have the same argument as the athletes you champion, correct (?). (@Hairy Vols & co.)
 
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10seV4L said:
We should bemoan the loss of our more seasoned and die-hard fan base, not hold the door for them with ridicule.
It doesn't make you superior or "cool" to under value @fUTure's fandom or the slow death of it. They're sorrow should only be mourned and championed with whatever comes next, not celebrated, imho. They're time and money invested being longer than some posters entire lives, should be reason enough to show some hubris.
Imma tweener, so I'm petrified by the paradox between both sides. I have the passion of the die-hards, but the calice of the newer generations.
However, and more importantly-- I show respect to both sides, and loathe posts such as this one (Willy Wonka's disinterested plea to remain), probably more than the folks that hate to open and read the OP
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😆

It's a fan message board. Not life or death. He will be ok
 
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Thanks for the thread OP. There are a lot more like you than you (and apparently others) realize.

One day soon, Neyland will have some empty seats for nearly all games. Why? Because the price required to purchase tickets to pay for all things athletic will be so high, the seats will be priced out of the market. What you've described above will only add fuel to the fire. Then, the proportion of empty seats will grow year after year. When you start to hear of "ticket price freezes", you'll know that the admin is onto the trend and trying to stop it.

Ever wonder why you don't see any NFL stadiums with 90K-100K+ seats? Exactly what I posted in the 2nd section above happened in the NFL. This is why the owners are perfectly happy with a stadium seating around 60k-70K or so. Like any sport, they dislike empty seats on TV.
 
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I'll probably be focusing more attention on the NFL like I did this year. It's not like it's a conscious effort. College football seems to be moving more into the background. It doesn't feel like Tennessee football is what it used to be.
 
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The Future said:
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
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We have been hearing that canard for years. Yet, college football is still here and doing fine.
 
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10seV4L said:
So, I guess you also believe Wal-Mart employees or the ones working production jobs to produce goods, should be the highest paid ppl in the business too.
Imma a skilled laborer. I love the idea. I have thought the same thing my whole career, us boots on the ground should be the most well-compensated because I am how the infrastructure is built in the first place. Without me and those like me, y'all have no Internet or (any) control systems, to say the least.
But, imma hold my breath. You let me know when a million-dollar industry such as fiber optics and data/communications starts paying technicians like they do their CEO's; if my labor is what creates the product then I should have the same argument as the athletes you champion, correct (?). (@Hairy Vols & co.)
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If you agree with me on the logic of the producers of value getting paid, why would you not want the players getting paid? If anything you'd stand to gain more by linking your skills (and that of competent Wal-Mart employees, who really should be getting paid by Wal-Mart and not by public assistance) to the players. Instead of saying "they shouldn't get paid because I'm not getting paid", you should say "they should get paid, and so should I".
 
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hardyemt_p said:
You will be just like me, we be watching every game in 2026. Please back off the cliff. Gonna be okay
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Ok. I know I was harsh by making a rash decision, but that made me so mad, when I heard that a judge granted a waiver for a basketball player that has played in the G-league for 3 years to come back and play college sports for Alabama. Wonder who the judge was? Judge Saban? Anyways, thank you Vol Nation for backing me off the cliff! I guess one could say, it's Back To The Future!
 
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10seV4L said:
I believe you confuse being passionate and disappointed with soft, which is counterintuitive and ironic.
Most ppl who are passionate about something, do not take it lightly, and thus are incapable of being soft, as you suggest.

I would much rather face an opposition dis-connected and dis-interested in the conflict, than face an opponent who gives all the effs.
A man with something to fight for, is a dangerous man. And a man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.

Don't mistake compassion for weakness, is my advice; seeing as how you were adamant about posting your 2¢ regarding
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One person's passionate is another person's whining.

Most people are a lot of talk and very little action. So I dont' think I'm mistaking anything.

I believe the phrase is "put up or shut up".
 
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Agree OP. Vol fan here since 1967. We lost CFB with NIL, it's now just an unregulated, watered-down, developmental, semi-pro league with a school name loosely attached to it. The further it becomes a semi-pro league, the less I'll watch it, and turn to the real pros on Sunday. The real fun of CFB was watching kids play for the Uni, improve, become legends like Reggie/Peyton, and sometimes win a championship like '98, not playing for a paycheck and hitting the portal every year for more money! It's just a sideshow for me now, pay less attention to it every year. The golden era of CFB is done.
 
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