Patriots fire Mayo

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#127
BernardKingGOAT said:
Lots of successful NFL head coaches were neither HCs nor coordinators before being given a HC job
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I don't know that 'lots' have; perhaps 'some' is more appropriate. If the 2010-2024 hires are indicative, 90% of NFL HC hires are either coordinators or HCs.

So where do head coaches come from? From 2010-2024, USA TODAY Sports data shows 90 head coach hires. Of those, 34 were promoted from offensive coordinator (38%); 23 from defensive coordinator (26%); 14 were NFL head coaches switching teams (16%); nine were NCAA head coaches (10%); six offensive position coaches (7%); two defensive position coaches (2%); one special teams coordinator (1%); and one Canadian Football League head coach (1%). Does the NFL have a special teams bias when hiring head coaches? History indicates it does

Rolling the dice on a guy with no coordinator or HC experience at any level is an odds-against favorite. Kraft went out on a limb and Mayo got $3.5M to saw it off. I can think of lots worse exchanges than Mayo's and he's young enough to possibly get another stab.
 
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#128
NCFisher said:
I don't know that 'lots' have; perhaps 'some' is more appropriate. If the 2010-2024 hires are indicative, 90% of NFL HC hires are either coordinators or HCs.

So where do head coaches come from? From 2010-2024, USA TODAY Sports data shows 90 head coach hires. Of those, 34 were promoted from offensive coordinator (38%); 23 from defensive coordinator (26%); 14 were NFL head coaches switching teams (16%); nine were NCAA head coaches (10%); six offensive position coaches (7%); two defensive position coaches (2%); one special teams coordinator (1%); and one Canadian Football League head coach (1%). Does the NFL have a special teams bias when hiring head coaches? History indicates it does

Rolling the dice on a guy with no coordinator or HC experience at any level is an odds-against favorite. Kraft went out on a limb and Mayo got $3.5M to saw it off. I can think of lots worse exchanges than Mayo's and he's young enough to possibly get another stab.
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I agree with you. I probably overstated it by saying "lots". I know John Harbaugh was elevated from special teams coach. Campbell was an interim HC at Miami in 2015, but I don't think has ever been a coordinator. Lot of guys out of that Shanahan tree doing well as HCs and not all were coordinators
 
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#129
I hate that choice they made. He took in a crumbling Pats team in rebuild, and somehow didn't screw it up as bad as they did last year? That's a win, for me. He found their guy(s) in Joe Milton and Drake Maye, and seemed like a locker room motivator. If I'm the GM, he might be getting closer towards the hot seat, but they need to understand: It doesn't take 1 year to turn from 4-13 to playoffs (Unless you're Washington, of course.)
 
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I read somewhere that following a road game , on the flight back to NE, Mayo was in the back playing cards with the players while his assistants were going over game film. Don't shoot me, I just read it online, forgot where.
 
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I don't understand. Mayo was not a good coach and has only ever know the New England organization and that severely handicapped him... Just look at his coordinator hires.... He didn't have a huge network to pluck and pull qualified coaches. You don't turn that job down, but you are a moron if you think Kraft shouldn't have canned him given that Vrabel, Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, and others are out there likely to get new jobs.
 
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allstar34bd said:
Some people hate to lose and they will study to improve. Others play cards after losing 90% of their games and look for new jobs after their first season. I'm guess that's is purpose to post the comment.
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To think he's been doing that all season in the manner you just described would be extremely ignorant
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
To think he's been doing that all season in the manner you just described would be extremely ignorant
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To think you actually know more than any other poster on this board is extremely ignorant. Man could do anything he wants and 99.7% of us would never know what happens on the plane or in the locker room. Maybe he has?
 
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allstar34bd said:
To think you actually know more than any other poster on this board is extremely ignorant. Man could do anything he wants and 99.7% of us would never know what happens on the plane or in the locker room. Maybe he has?
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I'm not saying he wasn't playing cards on the plane. I'm saying that he likely wasn't playing cards all season long rather than watching film at the appropriate times as was suggested in that previous poster. Damn
 
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JohnWardForever said:
I read somewhere that following a road game , on the flight back to NE, Mayo was in the back playing cards with the players while his assistants were going over game film. Don't shoot me, I just read it online, forgot where.
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I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see how that's a bad thing. As a HC, you have more responsibilities than just reviewing game film. I'm sure his assistants reported to him what saw on film Monday morning when the entire staff reviewed film together. And for all we know, Mayo reviewed the film by himself that Sunday when he got home. Spending quality time with his players is not a bad thing.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see how that's a bad thing. As a HC, you have more responsibilities than just reviewing game film. I'm sure his assistants reported to him what saw on film Monday morning when the entire staff reviewed film together. And for all we know, Mayo reviewed the film by himself that Sunday when he got home. Spending quality time with his players is not a bad thing.
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Welp that's open for discussion I guess, but to that particular news outlet it was significant; otherwise it wouldn't have been reported. It does coincide with Robert Craft's assessment that Mayo just wasn't ready for the assignment.
 
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