Patience

#126
#126
VFL-82-JP said:
Did you not read my response?

That makes no sense in its context.

Or are you trying to say, "a lot of other places on the internet suck, so we have to too"?
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Well what is your argument then? Because your original OP is “we aren’t patient enough” and then why I bring up how much we have sucked in the last 13 years as to why we aren’t being patient you then start talking about how everyone is mean and how it’s disrespectful to Jeremy and you’re fine with people who don’t support Pruitt but it’s just the meanness you have a problem with. So I don’t understand how that even relates to your original OP.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Okay, here's how predictable some folks are on VN.com. Folks who believe they're witty. Bearded, for example. At some point, even though he's fighting it right now because I can predict his every move, at some point he's going to post in this thread. And what he intended to say, before I called his shot, is "oh, here we go, it's today's installment of JP's defense of Pruitt." He'll probably shift his message just to "prove me wrong," but we all know that's where he would've gone. Heh.

Patience.

This thread is not about Pruitt. It's not about Chaney. Not about Fulmer. Not about Butch. Not about any specific person or event. Not about any specific time frame.

It's about you. You and me.

There's a fictional movie about one year's NFL draft. It's called Draft Day. Has Kevin Costner in the lead role. A lot of us have seen it. For those who haven't, I do recommend it; far better than any movie about such a constrained topic should be. Here's the first of a series of 10 short youtube clips leading up to the climactic scene:



I'll summarize. Costner, the general manager of one NFL team, takes a series of seemingly nonsensical decisions in preparation for draft day. Then, over the course of the day, he seems to double down on the bad choices until, at the end, all the weirdly-shaped pieces of his plan suddenly fall into perspective and his genius is revealed.

Okay, so what? That's just Hollywood making up a feel-good story.

Well, here's what. Costner's character was smarter than the folks around him. The folks trying to give him advice. He knew exactly what he was doing. He had a plan, and he executed it. Even if they couldn't see how it would work until near the end, even if the team gathered no fruits of their labors until the very last minute, he knew what he was doing. He was smarter than everyone around him on his business, his job.

Now what if a Tennessee coaching staff knows their subject better than you and I do? What if they know a bit more about college football than us? About recruiting kids, developing them, forming a team out of them, and winning games and championships with them? What if they know every piece of that better than us?

When did we start assuming they don't?

Where did we lose the ability to wait and see? Where did we lose the ability to give a subject matter expert some leeway, some rope? Sure, they might just hang themselves, but...given that they're probably smarter on the topic than we are...they might just see further ahead to a brighter outcome than we can.

When did we lose patience, as a fan base?

Because I can assure you, we have zero of that now.


END NOTE: no,, this isn't about Pruitt. This is just as much about how we treat the coach after Pruitt, or the coach after that, as it is about how we treat him. This is about US, and a serious flaw we've developed as a community.
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#129
#129
82_VOL_83 said:
Beginning to sound like the PF isn't it. No discussion about the topic on hand just Orange man bad........Bama man bad. I thought you were dead on 82. The 24/7 information, want it now, championships every year, I've been a fan since the 90's crowd unfortunately is who you are dealing with.

The FF used to be a good place to come and get info.....now all these guys talk about is fahr (insert coach's name) because we ain't dun got a trophy in his first two years. They do not realize that all of the posts simply reinforce the point you were making.
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I have no doubt that Pruitt knows more about football than 99% of the fans on this message board. Unfortunately he’s a worse coach than his peers. To be fair fans can be irrational over win/losses. We weren’t going to be instantly competitive with the best of the conference but we’re going backwards, we’re towards the bottom of the barrel and seem to be regressing. You can see that in point differential hell you can see it in effort.
 
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#135
Rocky Top Raby said:
These pumpers just can't handle that the average fan now leans towards the negative side of the fence because we have sucked for 15 years and telling this fan base to be patient is ****ing laughable. You're all's only arguments are "what if" and "GBO".
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I mean is it negative or realistic?

I get there is a segment that isn't happy unless they are unhappy. But there's a huge difference between that and being realistic about how bad things are and how sticking with the status quo doesn't seem to be the answer.
 
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After over a decade of being told to keep my expectations low year after year, I need to see some improvement. Instead, we are degrading. The play calling is awful, coaching is questionable at key moments, and players dont seem to be improving. This is a trend over the past few years. Fans are tired of being fed the same line over and over. We have bigger aspirations than beating KY at home next year.

I will always support the Vols and will pull for them every time they take the field. However, I don’t think this coaching staff or administration has any clue or desire to dig themselves out of this hole we are in.
 
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I want to win. Sick of wearing my Tennessee gear in Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia...hell even California and having a smart ass tell me we suck or we’re a basketball school. I was at UT during the Manning years and 98 NC...I know what winning tastes like. What the hell is wrong with some of y’all? What the hell is wrong with this administration? Blows my f’n mind.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
There we go, gator99. See? Tennessee fans (supposed, at least) jumping on your "Florida is better than Tennessee and has been forever and will be forever, maybe you'll have patience enough to see a win one day", this Tennessee fan is so eat up with hating himself and his own program that he joined you. That he backed your play.

Good job. You and the trolls are certainly winning on these boards.
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It’s called being a realist.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Okay, here's how predictable some folks are on VN.com. Folks who believe they're witty. Bearded, for example. At some point, even though he's fighting it right now because I can predict his every move, at some point he's going to post in this thread. And what he intended to say, before I called his shot, is "oh, here we go, it's today's installment of JP's defense of Pruitt." He'll probably shift his message just to "prove me wrong," but we all know that's where he would've gone. Heh.

Patience.

This thread is not about Pruitt. It's not about Chaney. Not about Fulmer. Not about Butch. Not about any specific person or event. Not about any specific time frame.

It's about you. You and me.

There's a fictional movie about one year's NFL draft. It's called Draft Day. Has Kevin Costner in the lead role. A lot of us have seen it. For those who haven't, I do recommend it; far better than any movie about such a constrained topic should be. Here's the first of a series of 10 short youtube clips leading up to the climactic scene:



I'll summarize. Costner, the general manager of one NFL team, takes a series of seemingly nonsensical decisions in preparation for draft day. Then, over the course of the day, he seems to double down on the bad choices until, at the end, all the weirdly-shaped pieces of his plan suddenly fall into perspective and his genius is revealed.

Okay, so what? That's just Hollywood making up a feel-good story.

Well, here's what. Costner's character was smarter than the folks around him. The folks trying to give him advice. He knew exactly what he was doing. He had a plan, and he executed it. Even if they couldn't see how it would work until near the end, even if the team gathered no fruits of their labors until the very last minute, he knew what he was doing. He was smarter than everyone around him on his business, his job.

Now what if a Tennessee coaching staff knows their subject better than you and I do? What if they know a bit more about college football than us? About recruiting kids, developing them, forming a team out of them, and winning games and championships with them? What if they know every piece of that better than us?

When did we start assuming they don't?

Where did we lose the ability to wait and see? Where did we lose the ability to give a subject matter expert some leeway, some rope? Sure, they might just hang themselves, but...given that they're probably smarter on the topic than we are...they might just see further ahead to a brighter outcome than we can.

When did we lose patience, as a fan base?

Because I can assure you, we have zero of that now.


END NOTE: no,, this isn't about Pruitt. This is just as much about how we treat the coach after Pruitt, or the coach after that, as it is about how we treat him. This is about US, and a serious flaw we've developed as a community.
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Hoping that our “GM” has a plan and that it’s good one.
 
#141
#141
I am resigned to the fact Coach Pruitt gets another year to prove himself. I hope he is successful.
However, it was your so called smarter "subject matter expert" that hired a guy with no head coaching experience who is born and bred as our arch rival. What other major university AD would do that? That didn't work in the 70's. It's not so great a feeling right now.
 
#143
#143
rikberry31 said:
How many key players were out this season for Alabama? Heck their coach tests positive and is on the sideline two days later.
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This isn’t true. The test before the UGA game was a false positive, that’s why Saban was still allowed to coach. The test the week of the Iron Bowl was legitimately positive, and that’s why he missed the game and had to watch it from home.
 
#144
#144
rikberry31 said:
The biggest problem this season was the virus and the fact that every team had differen protcols. Tennessee lost much more practice time than many other schools due to their strict Covid protocol. I don't think many concrete conclusions as to what the state of the team can be made in this crazy year. One thing is for sure the overall talent is much better and recruiting has been very good and that is the life blood of a team.
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Recruiting has been good, but nowhere close to where it needs to be of Tennessee is going to compete for championships. His classes have ranked 21st, 13th, 10th, and this year is currently 15th. Again those are good classes, but if you’re not consistently recruiting top 5-10 classes in the SEC then you’re going to be stuck in the middle of the pack.
 
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#145
Lmao. Yes if there’s one thing people who still call themselves Vol fans need, it’s more patience.
 
#146
#146
Boston Vol said:
This isn’t true. The test before the UGA game was a false positive, that’s why Saban was still allowed to coach. The test the week of the Iron Bowl was legitimately positive, and that’s why he missed the game and had to watch it from home.
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They are the only school in the SEC who handles their own testing. There is really no oversight at all. The only schools that play by the "rules" are the ones that want to.
 
#147
#147
Boston Vol said:
Recruiting has been good, but nowhere close to where it needs to be of Tennessee is going to compete for championships. His classes have ranked 21st, 13th, 10th, and this year is currently 15th. Again those are good classes, but if you’re not consistently recruiting top 5-10 classes in the SEC then you’re going to be stuck in the middle of the pack.
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The way you get a top ten class is to be top ten school. The path to becoming a 5-Star recruit is to be offered by Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State.
 
#148
#148
I'm just glad that @VFL-82-JP is around and willing to spare some of his invaluable time to help us mindless buffoons navigate the complexities of Tennessee football. It is so very comforting that he is able to see so much that we fail to see, that he has the wisdom of patience to calm the mob calling for change where none is needed, that he has the insight to correctly diagnose the cure for Tennessee's football woes as simply allowing more of the same to eventually fix itself.

We are all blessed to have him in our midst. Frankly, I wish more of you could see it.
 
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#149
#149
VFL-82-JP said:
Okay, here's how predictable some folks are on VN.com. Folks who believe they're witty. Bearded, for example. At some point, even though he's fighting it right now because I can predict his every move, at some point he's going to post in this thread. And what he intended to say, before I called his shot, is "oh, here we go, it's today's installment of JP's defense of Pruitt." He'll probably shift his message just to "prove me wrong," but we all know that's where he would've gone. Heh.

Patience.

This thread is not about Pruitt. It's not about Chaney. Not about Fulmer. Not about Butch. Not about any specific person or event. Not about any specific time frame.

It's about you. You and me.

There's a fictional movie about one year's NFL draft. It's called Draft Day. Has Kevin Costner in the lead role. A lot of us have seen it. For those who haven't, I do recommend it; far better than any movie about such a constrained topic should be. Here's the first of a series of 10 short youtube clips leading up to the climactic scene:



I'll summarize. Costner, the general manager of one NFL team, takes a series of seemingly nonsensical decisions in preparation for draft day. Then, over the course of the day, he seems to double down on the bad choices until, at the end, all the weirdly-shaped pieces of his plan suddenly fall into perspective and his genius is revealed.

Okay, so what? That's just Hollywood making up a feel-good story.

Well, here's what. Costner's character was smarter than the folks around him. The folks trying to give him advice. He knew exactly what he was doing. He had a plan, and he executed it. Even if they couldn't see how it would work until near the end, even if the team gathered no fruits of their labors until the very last minute, he knew what he was doing. He was smarter than everyone around him on his business, his job.

Now what if a Tennessee coaching staff knows their subject better than you and I do? What if they know a bit more about college football than us? About recruiting kids, developing them, forming a team out of them, and winning games and championships with them? What if they know every piece of that better than us?

When did we start assuming they don't?

Where did we lose the ability to wait and see? Where did we lose the ability to give a subject matter expert some leeway, some rope? Sure, they might just hang themselves, but...given that they're probably smarter on the topic than we are...they might just see further ahead to a brighter outcome than we can.

When did we lose patience, as a fan base?

Because I can assure you, we have zero of that now.


END NOTE: no,, this isn't about Pruitt. This is just as much about how we treat the coach after Pruitt, or the coach after that, as it is about how we treat him. This is about US, and a serious flaw we've developed as a community.
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Costners character was banging Jennifer Garners character in the movie too so kudos to him.


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