Our scheme is garbage...

#26
#26
Agreed, Kamara goes off last week and we just let Hurd get stuffed at the line over and over again? Weak game plan.
 
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Seems to me, in order for our scheme to work, 12 things have to happen simultaneously & correctly to work because it does zero to create explosive plays.
 
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CA_Vol said:
Ok, let me ask it this way. What is our scheme designed to do? Rush the ball up the gut from the shotgun with a line who can't run block? Fake the read option over & over again? NEVER throw the ball to a player in motion, only to a stationary player waiting for the ball?

Please help me...
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It's the same "scheme" that ran up on down the field last week against the number eight team in the country. Alabama DOMINATED every position on the field. When you get manhandled like that, any scheme is going to look inept. They whipped our asses and it wasn't even close. It was a nice reminder that the program has some work to do.

BTW, Alabama is #1 in the country.
 
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KBVol said:
Defensive scheme that's given up 80 points and right at 1,200 yards the last 2 weeks? You're right, I agree.
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They are on the field for the entire game because our offense has so many three & outs & wasted possessions. And the injuries are piling up because you're taking so many snaps.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
It's the same "scheme" that ran up on down the field last week against the number eight team in the country. Alabama DOMINATED every position on the field. When you get manhandled like that, any scheme is going to look inept. They whipped our asses and it wasn't even close. It was a nice reminder that the program has some work to do.

BTW, Alabama is #1 in the country.
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You refuse to answer the question because you don't have an answer. No one does. This scheme has no identity of purpose. It literally does nothing well.
 
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#32
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I think this offensive staff has done the same thing that Gus Malzahn at Auburn did. They have convinced themselves that they are such offensive geniuses that they can call any play and get a desired result. Like calling a two yard pass play on third and ten and expecting to get a first down. Only using your duel threat QB a pocket passer. Anything other than the desired result is explained away with lack of execution or injuries.

The reality is that a successful offense is about more than player's execution. It is about calling plays that get your offense in rhythm. Calling plays that create mismatches. Calling plays that get the ball to your play makers in space.
 
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Off tackle right... off tackle left.... off tackle right. Off tackle left. Are you kidding me. Their scheme completely embarrassed us. Completely. Totally. Pathetic
 
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Scheme??? Seriously??? We got our Azz whipped in the trenches on both sides, no way to "scheme" around that.
 
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Didn't this scheme just put up ~700 yards against Chavis and a top 10 Texas A&M team? As much as I hate to admit it, I think you have to give Bama's defense a lot of credit today. JMO
 
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When it works well it is usually due to broken plays. Qb running and broken plays etc. Butch hired a yes man in debored. This program has gone as far as it will go under Jones.
 
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Ive posted this on in another thread. Those of you with offense knowledge tell these guys that Bama ran many plays that we did last year. Their scheme is pretty much the exact same as ours. Fact.
 
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Freak said:
Didn't this scheme just put up ~700 yards against Chavis and a top 10 Texas A&M team? As much as I hate to admit it, I think you have to give Bama's defense a lot of credit today. JMO
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There is not a right or wrong answer to this except Alabama is just much better than us, but if you can't tell me you just watched a replay of LSU vs Alabama when everyone was complaining about how scared the game was called for LSU then you are flat out lying.
 
#43
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CA_Vol said:
You refuse to answer the question because you don't have an answer. No one does. This scheme has no identity of purpose. It literally does nothing well.
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The offense isn't something unique to Tennessee. There's a ton of teams running the zone read. The basic idea is that the oline accounts for stunt, etc by blocking based on what the d line gives. The runners use the depth created by the shotgun for the vision to see the crease. When every lineman is getting beat, it doesn't work.

The routes the guys are running clearly allow for catches in stride, but far too often JD either doesn't or can't make the throw. Or, he doesn't get the opportunity.

I don't want to be the guy that's arguing in favor of this offense. But, in any offense, players have to win matchups.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
The offense isn't something unique to Tennessee. There's a ton of teams running the zone read. The basic idea is that the oline accounts for stunt, etc by blocking based on what the d line gives. The runners use the depth created by the shotgun for the vision to see the crease. When every lineman is getting beat, it doesn't work.

The routes the guys are running clearly allow for catches in stride, but far too often JD either doesn't or can't make the throw. Or, he doesn't get the opportunity.

I don't want to be the guy that's arguing in favor of this offense. But, in any offense, players have to win matchups.
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"When every lineman is getting beat, it doesn't work."

Ya think! And yet we keep running this dumb scheme, even though our "talent" doesn't fit it?
 
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CA_Vol said:
I honestly haven't a clue what it is intended to accomplish. It doesn't create mismatches. It isn't dynamic. A Senior QB rocket scientist can't make reads, find open WRs. 30% of the plays go for 0 yards or less. I just don't get it.

It can't be solely o-line play. I'm watching a freshman QB carve us into pieces. So if y'all understand it, please enlighten me.
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You don't like the pretend-read-option-slow-developing-dive offense
 
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CA_Vol said:
I honestly haven't a clue what it is intended to accomplish. It doesn't create mismatches. It isn't dynamic. A Senior QB rocket scientist can't make reads, find open WRs. 30% of the plays go for 0 yards or less. I just don't get it.

It can't be solely o-line play. I'm watching a freshman QB carve us into pieces. So if y'all understand it, please enlighten me.
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I've been saying this for 3 years. Its like Fulmer Part II all over again.

"haha We don't have to scheme for UT." Urban M
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eyer
 
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CA_Vol said:
Ok, let me ask it this way. What is our scheme designed to do? Rush the ball up the gut from the shotgun with a line who can't run block? Fake the read option over & over again? NEVER throw the ball to a player in motion, only to a stationary player waiting for the ball?

Please help me...
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4 years in and I can't put an identity to this offense either.

Most teams have some bread and butter plays they go to in a pinch but I can't tell you what that is for the Vols.

See what Kiffin did today with a freshman QB rushing for 120+ yards on around 12 carries as an example of what I am talking about.
 
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Most of you really just don't get it. You are trying to grasp at any straw imaginable to place blame for this loss, instead of just accepting the simple facts.

1. We are a team that is decimated by injuries
2. Alabama is a more deep and talented team than we are.
 
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