Our QB room will be the best in the SEC

[82_VOL_83]

Wow. You've come full circle.

I'm not sure that I'd go that far... but I am sure I would tell him that he does not enter next spring as the coronated starter like he did this year. And yeah, he needs to be told frankly that while showing more consistency and beating the bottom half of the SEC is nice... UT needs more to beat UF, UGA, and Bama.

No kidding. Was beating me up for being one of those "hating" JG this year now he can't wait to see him transfer.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Your looking down the barrel of:

1: JG
2: Bailey
3: Hill

Why would Shrout transfer? Do you think there is another team out there willing to give him a starting spot? He also has to sit out a year, I just don't see it. I like JT as our 3rd guy next year.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Why would Shrout transfer? Do you think there is another team out there willing to give him a starting spot? He also has to sit out a year, I just don't see it. I like JT as our 3rd guy next year.

IDK maybe he didn't sign up to be a career 4th string QB? Maybe he has aspirations of actually playing somewhere and doesn't share the same fan hood for UT sports that you do.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I just don't think J G will transfer,because he has already gone through 4 OC's in his time here, why would he want to go somewhere he would have to learn an entirely new system?.That is very tough on a young man.MO is he will either go in the draft or stay for another year under Chaney whom he is beginning to thrive under.He said he was a Tennessee Vol,which I took he was coming back.Bailey coming in needs time and tutoring which JG can provide.

To be honest, if he can make the strides forward between now and next year that he has made since Bama, I would like to see him stay. The lights came on and the game slowed some. I would love to see the game slow further and the lights get brighter. I doubted his ability to make the turn that he has this year, but he proved me wrong. Saw a bit of a flash back on Sat but I think the weather and some nerves played into that. I think he will be hard to beat out next spring.

 

[Grudenhaslanded]

If JG stays and BM leaves then we’re screwed unless Bailey is ready by game 1.

 

[cgrish]

I think..........If JG comes back and HB signs...........BM and JS are gone.

I agree and it's a shame to let 2 qb go, which I think will be great qb somewhere

 

[sport3500]

I think one of the quarterbacks moves to another position ala Jennings and has a solid career at UT.

 

[KBVol]

Hate much?

No, I don’t hate the kid at all. I appreciate what he did this year on turning his season around and helping Tennessee win 3-4 games. I’m giving my honest opinion about what’s good for the QB position at Tennessee next year, what I believe is best for the team, and that’s that JG move on. Thank him, tell him you appreciate him, hell even that you love him. But move on from him and let the younger, more talented QBs with a higher upside complete for the starting QB position in 2020. Nothing about that is hating JG, it’s thinking about what’s honestly best for the team going forward. Just my honest, humble opinion.

 

[cgrish]

I just don't think J G will transfer,because he has already gone through 4 OC's in his time here, why would he want to go somewhere he would have to learn an entirely new system?.That is very tough on a young man.MO is he will either go in the draft or stay for another year under Chaney whom he is beginning to thrive under.He said he was a Tennessee Vol,which I took he was coming back.Bailey coming in needs time and tutoring which JG can provide.

You must not have seen the game sat

 

[BenGrimm]

My gut says JG stays so he can have at least 2 years with the same OC.

I think Shrout stays. He is most likely a backup at any FBS school worth a ish. He seems like a student of the game for future coaching career to me.

BM may leave if HB shows up and passes him on the depth chart.

 

[1vol8]

Not even close to the best QB room in the SEC. Not even sure best in the East. Bama has Jones, Tagovailoa, Tyson, and Young, the number one QB in the 2020 class. Florida has Trask, Jones, and 4-star Anthony Richardson committed. Georgia is better at QB if Fromm comes back. They also have Mathis and 4-star Carson Beck committed. A&M has Mond and 4-star 2020 QB King committed. Ole Miss has Corral and Plumlee.

Just so you know the word on the street in Athens is Mathis May never play a down after his brain surgery. Too high risk.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

And yet, you consider Harrison Bailey the highest profile QB recruit in UT history over Peyton Manning?

I do. Only 3 guys in Ga high school history have done what he's done. Their names are Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and Jake Fromm and HB did it in the toughest district in the South and arguably the country. I know that we've had some highly rated guys we've recruited in the past, all great players, but the buzz about HB in coaching and recruiting circles is off the charts on this kid. He may be a huge flop, they certainly happen, but as of right now he simply doesn't have a negative that anybody is out there reporting. Casey and Bray were certainly high profile guys, HB is every bit the recruit they were, I personally think a bit more desirable.

 

[sjt18]

I agree. BM has potential. I just don't think he beats out JG or HB.

Hill is not good. JT is a turnover waiting to happen.

I'm going to make a serious response though I'm pretty sure of your motive here....

BM does have potential. We have no idea what HB has so it is pretty foolish to say that BM won't beat him out or that HB won't beat them all out. We just have zero to go off of at this point concerning HB.

BM played like a Freshman in trash time vs UTC and UF. He played well before being knocked out of UGA, MSU, and Bama. Most of that was due to "moxie"... or swagger or confidence or whatever else you want to call it. He went out and decisively made plays. There were mistakes but those can be coached up. He wasn't the same vs UK. He was tentative. He made bad decisions rather than playing fast and instinctive.

So...

You have JG who may well have hit his ceiling. Even if consistent, he appears to limit UT's O and especially vs the top tier teams (He STILL hasn't led UT to more than 30 points against any FBS opponent).

You have BM who appears to have a higher ceiling but has to regain his confidence AND catch JG to a significant degree in his understanding and management of the O. BM also may be susceptible to concussions.

You have HB who best case comes in and has to play serious catch up. I've watched his highlights and while he has a nice arm... it would be no better than 4th in the QB room we're talking about based on those highlights.

You have Hill who I personally just don't see being a real threat. He was not greatly successful vs much weaker competition at Maryland.... and isn't a very accurate passer.

And you have Shrout who may have the biggest arm in the group but even midway through his 2nd season appeared to have less of a grasp of the O than Maurer as a true Fr.



On the flip side... you have 5 talented guys and any of the 5 could step forward (even JG could surprise me again) and become the QB that leads UT out of the wilderness with some big wins next fall.


Realistically, Pruitt seems to dislike unknowns. JG is a known quantity. BM is to a lesser degree. I would be shocked to see anything other than them as #1 and #2 come the end of August '20.

 

[KBVol]

Wow. You've come full circle.

I'm not sure that I'd go that far... but I am sure I would tell him that he does not enter next spring as the coronated starter like he did this year. And yeah, he needs to be told frankly that while showing more consistency and beating the bottom half of the SEC is nice... UT needs more to beat UF, UGA, and Bama.

A lot has changed since last year. Last off-season we didn’t know what Maurer and Shrout looked like and we didn’t have the benefit of seeing JG regress and play awful, and quite honestly damn near unforgivable like he did in the early part of the season. And although he turned it around and did some really good things in 3-4 games late, he’s still just too inconsistent and frankly, not good enough at that position to get Tennessee here it needs to be.

With more information, as the rest of the team has progressed around him, we see what this team can possibly be. And I just think a developed young QB like Maurer or Shrout or Bailey gives us a better chance of reaching championship status. In 2018 he was a positive, he was a helper on the whole in terms of helping a very bad team win the games they did. Now I think the team is “outgrowing” him and he needs to thanked and move on. Pretty simple imo.

 

[cgrish]

Why would any of those guys do that? BM and JS have to sit out a year if they transfer and they don't even know if anyone is interested in having them. Tennessee will immediately drop any of them if they go into the portal so if they go in now they'd have no clue what their future holds, if they stay through spring at least they will know where they stand in Knoxville. JG would be the only one other schools would make a play on as BM and JS have shown nothing as to why a team would want them to come and be their starter 2 seasons from now in '21.

Pruitt already know who the qb will be, jg, regardless of how bad he plays, that's why maurer and shrout will both transfer, and if we dont get bailey we are in trouble next yr.

 

[82_VOL_83]

No, I don’t hate the kid at all. I appreciate what he did this year on turning his season around and helping Tennessee win 3-4 games. I’m giving my honest opinion about what’s good for the QB position at Tennessee next year, what I believe is best for the team, and that’s that JG move on. Thank him, tell him you appreciate him, hell even that you love him. But move on from him and let the younger, more talented QBs with a higher upside complete for the starting QB position in 2020. Nothing about that is hating JG, it’s thinking about what’s honestly best for the team going forward. Just my honest, humble opinion.

I never said once anything worse than what you just posted. Yet you couldn't stand calling me out in the Last 4 Games thread. You need to figure out an opinion and stick with it. Stop slinging **** and quote facts.

 

[sjt18]

Who is starting the bowl game and been cited by the coaches and team as the best qb and the starter? Not BM or JTS

Not remotely relevant to the point. The point is that JG has enough issues that he was displaced by both Maurer and Shrout at different points during the season.

Due to experience and knowledge of college offenses and defenses alone... a 4th year player SHOULD be a better option than a RS Fr project and a true Fr. But during the season... there was a period when JG was not.

 

[KBVol]

I'm going to make a serious response though I'm pretty sure of your motive here....

BM does have potential. We have no idea what HB has so it is pretty foolish to say that BM won't beat him out or that HB won't beat them all out. We just have zero to go off of at this point concerning HB.

BM played like a Freshman in trash time vs UTC and UF. He played well before being knocked out of UGA, MSU, and Bama. Most of that was due to "moxie"... or swagger or confidence or whatever else you want to call it. He went out and decisively made plays. There were mistakes but those can be coached up. He wasn't the same vs UK. He was tentative. He made bad decisions rather than playing fast and instinctive.

So...

You have JG who may well have hit his ceiling. Even if consistent, he appears to limit UT's O and especially vs the top tier teams (He STILL hasn't led UT to more than 30 points against any FBS opponent).

You have BM who appears to have a higher ceiling but has to regain his confidence AND catch JG to a significant degree in his understanding and management of the O. BM also may be susceptible to concussions.

You have HB who best case comes in and has to play serious catch up. I've watched his highlights and while he has a nice arm... it would be no better than 4th in the QB room we're talking about based on those highlights.

You have Hill who I personally just don't see being a real threat. He was not greatly successful vs much weaker competition at Maryland.... and isn't a very accurate passer.

And you have Shrout who may have the biggest arm in the group but even midway through his 2nd season appeared to have less of a grasp of the O than Maurer as a true Fr.



On the flip side... you have 5 talented guys and any of the 5 could step forward (even JG could surprise me again) and become the QB that leads UT out of the wilderness with some big wins next fall.


Realistically, Pruitt seems to dislike unknowns. JG is a known quantity. BM is to a lesser degree. I would be shocked to see anything other than them as #1 and #2 come the end of August '20.

Agree with all this. But I’ll add one thing about Maurer vs Kentucky.....kid hasn’t played in nearly a month, was coming off 2 concussions and it was a cold evening/environment in Lexington....just took him a minute to warm up and get acclimated, especially since our defense couldn’t get off the field and Kentucky had the ball the whole first quarter.

But after the first 2-3 possessions, Maurer played very well, moved us up and down the field a couple times. And of course, he wasn’t given the opportunity to see what he could do in the second half. JG came in and played well, but we only scored 14 points and I’m not convinced for even a second that Maurer couldn’t have done at least as well that night.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I do. Only 3 guys in Ga high school history have done what he's done. Their names are Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and Jake Fromm and HB did it in the toughest district in the South and arguably the country. I know that we've had some highly rated guys we've recruited in the past, all great players, but the buzz about HB in coaching and recruiting circles is off the charts on this kid. He may be a huge flop, they certainly happen, but as of right now he simply doesn't have a negative that anybody is out there reporting. Casey and Bray were certainly high profile guys, HB is every bit the recruit they were, I personally think a bit more desirable.

Hope you are right, I would take Peyton over Fromm any day, however, the other two give him a close race simply because they have legs.

 

[KBVol]

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I never said once anything worse than what you just posted. Yet you couldn't stand calling me out in the Last 4 Games thread. You need to figure out an opinion and stick with it. Stop slinging **** and quote facts.

What the hell does this mean? whatever dude. Fact is, I don’t hate the kid, just think it’s best he move on.

 

[sjt18]

Pruitt already know who the qb will be, if, regardless of how bad he plays, that's why maurer and shrout will both transfer, and if we dont get bailey we are in trouble next yr.

Neither should transfer. Don't know if either will.

Both would be wise to develop behind JG then try to win the job should they not take it away from him now. There is really no obvious reason for Maurer to leave. He got the chance to compete and start this year. Worst case he can take a RS next fall and then have a spring to compete for the starting job before making a decision. Win or lose that competition... he has 3 years to start somewhere.

 

[82_VOL_83]

What the hell does this mean? whatever dude. Fact is, I don’t hate the kid, just think it’s best he move on.

Then get off my ass and understand that no one hates the kid, we just saw realities.

 

[rikberry31]

I think Shrout is gone after the bowl and maybe BM

I doubt JTS goes anywhere, his girlfriend plays softball for UT.

 

[NighthawkVol]

I do. Only 3 guys in Ga high school history have done what he's done. Their names are Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and Jake Fromm and HB did it in the toughest district in the South and arguably the country. I know that we've had some highly rated guys we've recruited in the past, all great players, but the buzz about HB in coaching and recruiting circles is off the charts on this kid. He may be a huge flop, they certainly happen, but as of right now he simply doesn't have a negative that anybody is out there reporting. Casey and Bray were certainly high profile guys, HB is every bit the recruit they were, I personally think a bit more desirable.

Yeah, but Peyton Manning.

 

[cgrish]

What games did JG lose for Tn the last 3 seasons because of his bad play? What games the last 3 years would we have won with better QB play? Bottom line is that our record would not be much different the last 3 years with Fromm, Trask or Tua playing QB for the Vols. I also think we'd likely have a worse record the last 3 seasons with any of the QBs from SC, Texas A&M, Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Miss St and Arkansas.

Bama this yr, ga state, byu, fla. U have ur opinion I have mine. We had bama on the ropes. With a new qb in game. And they werent moving the ball. Fla was not moving the ball the first half and we had many chances to score.