Our DBs have 4 ints ... total , that's one every 10 quarters. JJ has

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EricberryFAN said:
Besides Cam, Rashaan, and Kelly we don't have elite dbs.
I'm excited for Warrior
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Don't think Kelly is an elite DB. He's smart, he's solid but he doesn't have enough athleticism to be elite. Guys like Dale Carter and Deon Grant and Eric Berry were all elite Tennessee safeties.....as much as I like TKJr, he's not in that class.

Agree with you about Warrior and I think he does have the potential to join that class.
 
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Is it too early to get a read on Buchanan's(sp?) long term potential?
 
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McDad said:
If CDM is correct (i generally find him spot on), then I find his assessment demoralizing, depressing, and disturbing. Weve had 4 recruiting classes since CBJ has taken over and yet we STILL do not have right personnel! Think on that for a moment. How long does it take to find fast, strong DBs with nasty attitudes? Meanwhile UGA, AU, UA continue to vacuum up loads of 4 and 5 star talent.

What the heck are we supposed to do?
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I don't know. Maybe stop referring to coaches as CDM. His first name is not "coach".
 
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Nocleats said:
Loosing 5 of your top 6 DBs to injury can play a part.
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We haven't lost 5 of our top 6 DBs.

TKJr has played in all 10 games
Gaulden has played in all 10 games
Moseley has played in all 10 games
Evan Berry has played in 9 of 10 games
Buchanan hasn't been injured and has played in 9 of 10 games
Martin missed only one game due to suspension

Only Sutton and Foreman have missed extensive time due to injury. By my count, that's 2 of our top 8.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Without Cam, our corners have been too busy watching the ball sail over their heads to make a play on it.
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This isn't exactly correct.

They have been getting beat, but even when they are in position they NEVER EVER turn around and play the ball. Ever!

That is because of coaching mostly.

We have plenty of athleticism back there.
 
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BleedingButch said:
Jennings could easily play both ways.
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Asking way too much of him to do so IMO, especially given up tempo offenses. I think they should determine where he best can help the team, at WR or safety, and let him perfect his craft accordingly. Jmo
 
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orangemadam said:
But I thought Shoop was a guru that would make our defense as good or better than Saban.
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I did too, minus your last sentence. I honestly thought he was the missing piece to make our defense much better and push us over the top to a championship level. I believe I was wrong at this point....very, very wrong.
 
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I just don't think CBJ is a defensive-first type coach. He is an offensive-first coach. Saban is a defensive-first coach. When you think of most coaches, they'll either fall on one side of the ball or the other.

Everyone has referenced CBJ's "system" on offense. So what's his system on defense? Answer....? Didn't think so.
 
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KBVol said:
First off, Jennings isn't our only offensive playmakers. Malone has more catches, many more yards and many more touchdowns.

Secondly, as Mathews argued, Jennings touches the ball on average, less than 3 times per game....that's it. Conversely, if he's playing safety, he'd have 70-75 opportunities to make a play/have impact on defense as opposed to only being able to make a play on offense when he is targeted by our qb, which is virtually never.

So ultimately it's a tradeoff proposal. Jennings has impacted essentially two games this season at WR, vs Florida and Georgia, and it was great impact to be sure. But what could he do, how could he impact/help improve a porous, generally uathletic defensive secondary that desperately needs help? The same question goes double for Byrd who has all of 13 catches in 10 games.
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Malone disappears in games at times and he's a solid SEC receiver but wouldn't call him a playmaker or difference maker. Jennings is largely responsible for 2 wins versus our biggest rivals. Fix the run defense and the DB issues sort of fix themselves. Jmo
 
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Why should teams throw on a defense that is giving up 200+ ypg on the ground...DB's aren't getting many opportunities.
 
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fade route said:
Malone disappears in games at times and he's a solid SEC receiver but wouldn't call him a playmaker or difference maker. Jennings is largely responsible for 2 wins versus our biggest rivals. Fix the run defense and the DB issues sort of fix themselves. Jmo
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Agree to disagree on Malone. It's all good. And anywhere Jennings plays he's gonna have impact. Intrigued to see what happens going forward.
 
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KBVol said:
Agree to disagree on Malone. It's all good. And anywhere Jennings plays he's gonna have impact. Intrigued to see what happens going forward.
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Yep, totally Ok to disagree and just leave it at that without resorting to insults. That's why you good people KB.
 
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It was a hailmary play...... JJ should never be moved from reciever, his future is at reciever. People want to see him at safety, but he would not be a good safety. He is not side to side quick enough and doesn't get to top speed quick enough. His build is to skinny to support the run, and his hips aren't safety hips. I don't understand the safety talk. Yes he plays with attitude, but that doesn't translate to being a safety. On the other hand, he is a great reciever and he has a long future there.
 
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My God. It was a Hail Mary. He isn't the next Ed Reed because he picked off a Hail Mary.
 
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VFL34 said:
It was a hailmary play...... JJ should never be moved from reciever, his future is at reciever. People want to see him at safety, but he would not be a good safety. He is not side to side quick enough and doesn't get to top speed quick enough. His build is to skinny to support the run, and his hips aren't safety hips. I don't understand the safety talk. Yes he plays with attitude, but that doesn't translate to being a safety. On the other hand, he is a great reciever and he has a long future there.
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Finally, this.
 
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VFL34 said:
It was a hailmary play...... JJ should never be moved from reciever, his future is at reciever. People want to see him at safety, but he would not be a good safety. He is not side to side quick enough and doesn't get to top speed quick enough. His build is to skinny to support the run, and his hips aren't safety hips. I don't understand the safety talk. Yes he plays with attitude, but that doesn't translate to being a safety. On the other hand, he is a great reciever and he has a long future there.
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I agree with you on this. Also, I believe that if he did switch and didnt play that well, many would be bashing Butch for not keeping him at WR.
 
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