OU and Stoops strategy on QBs

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I know OU is 1-1 and possibly 1-2 end of coming weekend but I am impressed how Stoops has handled his QB attrition situation this season so far.
Trevor Knight left OU so the back up to Baker Mayfield is Austin Kendall (yes, the one time UT commit). In their last game against ULM, Stoops let Kendall play in garbage time in 4th quarter but did actually let him throw. He ran plays with Kendall the same way as if he was starter so he could give Kendall meaningful snaps and not just handoffs.
We do not seem to do that much. Even last season, we used Dormady for handoffs mostly (I think he threw in a game).
Ohio could be a good game for that. If we build a sizeable lead, why not let Dormady come in and play not 'reps' but 'meaningful reps'. Let him throw, scramble, run etc. Give him the taste of full playbook. See how he does. Heck I would even put Sheriron for a series or two and see how he does in live game situations. (Assuming JG is in for RS)

What ya'll think ?
 
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Well JG will be our QB next year so it doesn't really matter if QD gets meaningful snaps this year or not. If Dobbs goes down then I hope JG gets the nod. If he's as good as advertised he won't be staying for his (RS) Senior year anyways.

I think the rotation should be

Dobbs
JG
SJ
QD
 
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I like Butch Jones as a coach, but I think this is important in the development of your team. If your 1st string runs away with it, you put the 2nd string in and play the game as if you were tied.
 
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He turned QD loose with the play book against North Western. One of the commentators made a big deal about UT still passing with the game in hand.
 
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volmandu said:
I know OU is 1-1 and possibly 1-2 end of coming weekend but I am impressed how Stoops has handled his QB attrition situation this season so far.
Trevor Knight left OU so the back up to Baker Mayfield is Austin Kendall (yes, the one time UT commit). In their last game against ULM, Stoops let Kendall play in garbage time in 4th quarter but did actually let him throw. He ran plays with Kendall the same way as if he was starter so he could give Kendall meaningful snaps and not just handoffs.
We do not seem to do that much. Even last season, we used Dormady for handoffs mostly (I think he threw in a game).
Ohio could be a good game for that. If we build a sizeable lead, why not let Dormady come in and play not 'reps' but 'meaningful reps'. Let him throw, scramble, run etc. Give him the taste of full playbook. See how he does. Heck I would even put Sheriron for a series or two and see how he does in live game situations. (Assuming JG is in for RS)

What ya'll think ?
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I don't think this staff trusts Dormady with the whole offense. JMO. They let him throw against a FCS School last year but not really against anyone else even when the game was out of had. TRUST is the issue. It may be in the Oline to block for him a little too but I don't believe that they Trust Dormady, to run the offense.
 
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Stoked said:
Well JG will be our QB next year so it doesn't really matter if QD gets meaningful snaps this year or not. If Dobbs goes down then I hope JG gets the nod. If he's as good as advertised he won't be staying for his (RS) Senior year anyways.

I think the rotation should be

Dobbs
JG
SJ
QD
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Thanks for the update Butch.
 
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Here were Dormady's stats last year:

He played in 6 games (BG, WCU, UK, NT, Vandy, NW). Threw passes in 4 games (WCU, NT, Vandy, NW). Each game in which he threw passes, he threw at least 4 passes.

Not sure what else you want out of CBJ on this....?
 
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Stoked said:
Well JG will be our QB next year so it doesn't really matter if QD gets meaningful snaps this year or not. If Dobbs goes down then I hope JG gets the nod. If he's as good as advertised he won't be staying for his (RS) Senior year anyways.

I think the rotation should be

Dobbs
JG
SJ
QD
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You are basing that on what ? I get the love for JG but what has he done to be ahead of QD and you have SJ ahead of QD. Did QD take your lunch money or something?
 
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johnrlansford said:
I don't think this staff trusts Dormady with the whole offense. JMO. They let him throw against a FCS School last year but not really against anyone else even when the game was out of had. TRUST is the issue. It may be in the Oline to block for him a little too but I don't believe that they Trust Dormady, to run the offense.
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TN didn't blow anybody out except FCS schools including KY and Vandy.
 
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volmandu said:
I know OU is 1-1 and possibly 1-2 end of coming weekend but I am impressed how Stoops has handled his QB attrition situation this season so far.
Trevor Knight left OU so the back up to Baker Mayfield is Austin Kendall (yes, the one time UT commit). In their last game against ULM, Stoops let Kendall play in garbage time in 4th quarter but did actually let him throw. He ran plays with Kendall the same way as if he was starter so he could give Kendall meaningful snaps and not just handoffs.
We do not seem to do that much. Even last season, we used Dormady for handoffs mostly (I think he threw in a game).
Ohio could be a good game for that. If we build a sizeable lead, why not let Dormady come in and play not 'reps' but 'meaningful reps'. Let him throw, scramble, run etc. Give him the taste of full playbook. See how he does. Heck I would even put Sheriron for a series or two and see how he does in live game situations. (Assuming JG is in for RS)

What ya'll think ?
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Quinten Dormady stats:

13-22-0 209 1 49


so he throws and runs. what else do you want him to do? Are you running out of things to have Faux outrage over?
 
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tnvols72 said:
TN didn't blow anybody out except FCS schools including KY and Vandy.
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Bowling Green 59-30
Kentucky 52-21
Vandy 53-28
North Texas 28-0

That was 4 more opportunities right there, Not even counting the 1 game he did get to throw in against Western Carolina.

Trust is the issue!!! JMO
 
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butchna said:
Hope we get this figured out. Butch needs us. :)
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Nah...he's good. He posted higher up in the thread and clarified the future plans and roster order. The QD at QB #2 thing is just a smokescreen. Don't tell anybody.
 
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volmandu said:
I know OU is 1-1 and possibly 1-2 end of coming weekend but I am impressed how Stoops has handled his QB attrition situation this season so far.
Trevor Knight left OU so the back up to Baker Mayfield is Austin Kendall (yes, the one time UT commit). In their last game against ULM, Stoops let Kendall play in garbage time in 4th quarter but did actually let him throw. He ran plays with Kendall the same way as if he was starter so he could give Kendall meaningful snaps and not just handoffs.
We do not seem to do that much. Even last season, we used Dormady for handoffs mostly (I think he threw in a game).
Ohio could be a good game for that. If we build a sizeable lead, why not let Dormady come in and play not 'reps' but 'meaningful reps'. Let him throw, scramble, run etc. Give him the taste of full playbook. See how he does. Heck I would even put Sheriron for a series or two and see how he does in live game situations. (Assuming JG is in for RS)

What ya'll think ?
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Dormady was throwing the ball downfield against NW in the bowl game (a really nice throw to Wolf). Enough to have Rod Gilmour question if UT should just be running out the clock.
 
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volmandu said:
I know OU is 1-1 and possibly 1-2 end of coming weekend but I am impressed how Stoops has handled his QB attrition situation this season so far.
Trevor Knight left OU so the back up to Baker Mayfield is Austin Kendall (yes, the one time UT commit). In their last game against ULM, Stoops let Kendall play in garbage time in 4th quarter but did actually let him throw. He ran plays with Kendall the same way as if he was starter so he could give Kendall meaningful snaps and not just handoffs.
We do not seem to do that much. Even last season, we used Dormady for handoffs mostly (I think he threw in a game).
Ohio could be a good game for that. If we build a sizeable lead, why not let Dormady come in and play not 'reps' but 'meaningful reps'. Let him throw, scramble, run etc. Give him the taste of full playbook. See how he does. Heck I would even put Sheriron for a series or two and see how he does in live game situations. (Assuming JG is in for RS)

What ya'll think ?
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Agree wholeheartedly. Give him meaningful snaps when possible and let him run the offense as though he's preparing in the event that Dobbs gets injured. Does no good for his development if all he does is get in for the last series or two and does nothing but handoff to Kelly 7-8 straight times.
 
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I'd like to see Sherion Jones get a few snaps. He deserves it for his energy alone.
 
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KBVol said:
Agree wholeheartedly. Give him meaningful snaps when possible and let him run the offense as though he's preparing in the event that Dobbs gets injured. Does no good for his development if all he does is get in for the last series or two and does nothing but handoff to Kelly 7-8 straight times.
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have you not seen him throw in games? if he got in a made a mistake, you would be on here complaining about that too.
 
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johnrlansford said:
I don't think this staff trusts Dormady with the whole offense. JMO. They let him throw against a FCS School last year but not really against anyone else even when the game was out of had. TRUST is the issue. It may be in the Oline to block for him a little too but I don't believe that they Trust Dormady, to run the offense.
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You act like we run an NFL offense. We run about 5 plays. Our backup(s) QB should play against Ohio, if we have a nice lead, and they should run all the plays. I'm tired of all this conservative BS with the offense.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
have you not seen him throw in games? if he got in a made a mistake, you would be on here complaining about that too.
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He got in 5 games last year and attempted all of 22 passes, more than 1/3 of which came in one game. I saw him throw vs W. Carolina last year, and he threw it well. Threw a few against North Texas.

Bottom line, no matter who you're backup QB is, when he gets in, let him do as much with the offense as possible in a real life game so he's as ready as possible if his number is called in a game that matters.

Clearly, you disagree. Solid take there buddy.
 
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Stoked said:
Well JG will be our QB next year so it doesn't really matter if QD gets meaningful snaps this year or not. If Dobbs goes down then I hope JG gets the nod. If he's as good as advertised he won't be staying for his (RS) Senior year anyways.

I think the rotation should be

Dobbs
JG
SJ
QD
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I hope JG is good enough to take the job. But that is far from a foregone conclusion. QD and SJ BOTH have arm talent and more time in the system.

The OP makes a really good point whether QD ends up the starter or JG's back up. Meaningful reps.... should be meaningful.
 
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armchair said:
You act like we run an NFL offense. We run about 5 plays. Our backup(s) QB should play against Ohio, if we have a nice lead, and they should run all the plays. I'm tired of all this conservative BS with the offense.
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QD seems to let them use more of the playbook in the passing game.... or he just makes better decisions on where to throw.
 
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Dormady got true playbook action in the nTX, wCar, Vandy, and NW games. Can't do too much or the "safe space" crowd will get up in arms b/c you ran up the score.
 
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