Opposing coaches anonymously break down SEC

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

The anonymous coach in the OP obviously doesn't watch as much football as D4H.

I guarantee you he hasn't watched more tape on UT than me unless he's a coach at UT.

I've watched every game we played in 2015 at least 2-3 times. And most of the big games (Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, Georgia) at least 4 times.

In particular I watched every throw Dobbs made in 2015 multiple times.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Dobbs has the TALENT to be an elite passer. He's got all the tools. He's big, tall, and has a strong arm.

He's flashed that talent several times. He's just been inconsistent as a passer so far in his career. Part of that inconsistency is his own poor play. But part of it is also poor play from wide receivers and offensive lineman.

I've been high on him because I have faith that his TALENT will ultimately shine. I also have faith his teammates will improve to help him.

Dobbs has no physical limitations. That's why I believe in him so much.

 

[WildTurkey]

I guarantee you he hasn't watched more tape on UT than me unless he's a coach at UT.

I've watched every game we played in 2015 at least 2-3 times. And most of the big games (Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, Georgia) at least 4 times.

In particular I watched every throw Dobbs made in 2015 multiple times.

Don't ever change man.

 

[WildTurkey]

Dobbs has the TALENT to be an elite passer. He's got all the tools. He's big, tall, and has a strong arm.

He's flashed that talent several times. He's just been inconsistent as a passer so far in his career. Part of that inconsistency is his own poor play. But part of it is also poor play from wide receivers and offensive lineman.

I've been high on him because I have faith that his TALENT will ultimately shine. I also have faith his teammates will improve to help him.

Dobbs has no physical limitations. That's why I believe in him so much.

I have to admit this is one of the more level-headed posts I've ever read from you concerning Dobbs. I read it twice to make sure I saw it right.

Here's hoping Dobbs realizes his arm talent this season and that his receivers/oline help him out.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

I guarantee you he hasn't watched more tape on UT than me unless he's a coach at UT.

I've watched every game we played in 2015 at least 2-3 times. And most of the big games (Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, Georgia) at least 4 times.

In particular I watched every throw Dobbs made in 2015 multiple times.

Please tell me all your posts are not serious??? If they are, God have mercy on your soul child.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Dobbs has the TALENT to be an elite passer. He's got all the tools. He's big, tall, and has a strong arm.

He's flashed that talent several times. He's just been inconsistent as a passer so far in his career. Part of that inconsistency is his own poor play. But part of it is also poor play from wide receivers and offensive lineman.

I've been high on him because I have faith that his TALENT will ultimately shine. I also have faith his teammates will improve to help him.

Dobbs has no physical limitations. That's why I believe in him so much.

I like how you think watching a game 2-3 times counts as watching tape.

Get back to me when you watch a play 50 times and break down that play from start to finish 50 more times followed by watching Dobbs footwork zoomed in 50 more times and wrapping that up by watching his throwing motion 50 more times. Do that 6 hours a day and maybre you will stop inspiring laughter with your posts.

Jeez man, I watch every game at least 2-3 times. I watched the Oklahoma game 6 times. I watched the North Texas game 4 times. I did all of that while side eyeing a roll of duct tape. So yea, I watched tape.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

I have to admit this is one of the more level-headed posts I've ever read from you concerning Dobbs. I read it twice to make sure I saw it right.

Here's hoping Dobbs realizes his arm talent this season and that his receivers/oline help him out.

Yeah I agree with you. One of D4H's better posts

 

[EZE]

But, Dobbs tied Prescott, for 27 runs of 10-plus yards in 2015 -- so how was it that defenders took away his running strength?

What D4H seems to be saying (imo), is that playcalling and inopportune dropped-passes (+ OL learning curve) took away what otherwise is also a strength of Dobbs (an actual accuracy that we've just not fully seen yet / albeit, a possible weaker strength than his running and short-pass game).

That line of reasoning is laughable. D4H probably argues that Dooley is a great coach, but constantly losing games took away what otherwise was a strength of Dooley.

Or that Nuke and Janzen are really nice young men, but recurring legal infractions took away from what otherwise was their outstanding character.

Remember Vol brethren, when you find yourself making excuses for why the numbers and experts (I.e., the coaches) are wrong, you are usually on the wrong side of the argument.

 

[chargervol]

If you are an opposing defense, the goal is to force Dobbs to beat you from the pocket.

This isn't breaking news

Lol, trust me, it's news to a couple here.
They believe to be fake news but still.

 

[Iam4utalways]

I guarantee you he hasn't watched more tape on UT than me unless he's a coach at UT.

I've watched every game we played in 2015 at least 2-3 times. And most of the big games (Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, Georgia) at least 4 times.

In particular I watched every throw Dobbs made in 2015 multiple times.

The Video Dept. at UT can produce film for whatever a coach or player requests, so if Dobbs wanted to watch all his picks, completions or incompletions he calls them and they let him know when it's ready. Our guy built his own 3D simulator rather than buy one just for the challenge. The only advantage you would have is being able to focus on 1 team, a DC is watching film on at least 12. Take a look at the break down short<10, midrange >10<20, and deep >20 and I bet his #'s would not be considered elite for the deep, but for the other 2 the #'s I bet would be elite. Drops and spectacular catches is about a wash. Great recievers make great QB's and vice versa. Or did you not take notes and other than the joy of watching it's been a waste of time.

Edit: Ghost plays should be reviewed also.

Go Vols!

 

[MustafaRasta]

The Video Dept. at UT can produce film for whatever a coach or player requests, so if Dobbs wanted to watch all his picks, completions or incompletions he calls them and they let him know when it's ready. Our guy built his own 3D simulator rather than buy one just for the challenge. The only advantage you would have is being able to focus on 1 team, a DC is watching film on at least 12. Take a look at the break down short<10, midrange >10<20, and deep >20 and I bet his #'s would not be considered elite for the deep, but for the other 2 the #'s I bet would be elite. Drops and spectacular catches is about a wash. Great recievers make great QB's and vice versa. Or did you not take notes and other than the joy of watching it's been a waste of time.

Edit: Ghost plays should be reviewed also.

Go Vols!

same thing I said essentially, but you're nicer.

JHV :hi:

 

[Remy]

I think it's a relative statement. I too believe Dobbs can throw it downfield, but it's not his strength, so this particular defensive coach, and other DCs scheme to encourage him or "make him beat them" throwing downfield and try to take away Josh's other strengths. Conversely, a guy like Chad Kelly is just the opposite....he's a guy who's very good throwing the ball vertically so you scheme him differently to keep him from hurting you over the top. I know this is likely a very obvious statement/point to most on here, sorry if this post elicits a "duh" response.

I'm hoping this year when the ball goes downfield our receivers are aggressively going after the ball. I think this could help Dobbs's production some. I like what I see in PW and hoping Malone wakes up in this part of his game!!! Lay some out there and let get it!

 

[KBVol]

Dobbs has the TALENT to be an elite passer. He's got all the tools. He's big, tall, and has a strong arm.

He's flashed that talent several times. He's just been inconsistent as a passer so far in his career. Part of that inconsistency is his own poor play. But part of it is also poor play from wide receivers and offensive lineman.

I've been high on him because I have faith that his TALENT will ultimately shine. I also have faith his teammates will improve to help him.

Dobbs has no physical limitations. That's why I believe in him so much.

That may be the most reasonable and most balanced post I've ever read from you. Well done.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

That line of reasoning is laughable. D4H probably argues that Dooley is a great coach, but constantly losing games took away what otherwise was a strength of Dooley.

Or that Nuke and Janzen are really nice young men, but recurring legal infractions took away from what otherwise was their outstanding character.

Remember Vol brethren, when you find yourself making excuses for why the numbers and experts (I.e., the coaches) are wrong, you are usually on the wrong side of the argument.

Well, now, just something to keep in mind: what opposing coaches say for public consumption, especially anonymously when they are not directly accountable, is not necessarily the absolute truth. They do have their own agendas.

 

[volfan102455]

I don't care what offense Tennessee runs - short passes, long passes, runs, QB, runs - doesn't matter - as long as they win - it doesn't matter.

 

[chargervol]

Well, now, just something to keep in mind: what opposing coaches say for public consumption, especially anonymously when they are not directly accountable, is not necessarily the absolute truth. They do have their own agendas.

If a DC is saying Dobbs can't pass from the pocket, that means his agenda would be to make Dobbs prove him wrong and pass from the pocket.
And if a rival DC wants him to try, it's not because he thinks it will work out well for Dobbs.

 

[volfan102455]

If a DC is saying Dobbs can't pass from the pocket, that means his agenda would be to make Dobbs prove him wrong and pass from the pocket.
And if a rival DC wants him to try, it's not because he thinks it will work out well for Dobbs.

Exactly. Josh needs to continue to do what works best for him and the team.

Some on here would love to have him do what he doesn't do best and fail rather than let him just do what he does and succeed.

 

[chargervol]

Exactly. Josh needs to continue to do what works best for him and the team.

Some on here would love to have him do what he doesn't do best and fail rather than let him just do what he does and succeed.

That's just it.
People get upset for people referring to Dobbs as a mobile QB instead of a pocket passer. That's just so wrong. With our OL issues and receivers not impressing, I wouldn't trade our mobile QB for any Passer around. True dual threat like Watson, would have to consider. But not a passing QB.
Those who think they are sticking up for JD are actually not appreciating him for what he truly is.., which is exactly what we needed.

 

[Iam4utalways]

Exactly. Josh needs to continue to do what works best for him and the team.

Some on here would love to have him do what he doesn't do best and fail rather than let him just do what he does and succeed.

No Vol fans want Dobbs to fail. The few you are referring to would be the gator, Bama, Ga , and all other opposing team's fans. But no Vol fans. It's just improvement needs to take place for our success to become reality. In about 3 months we will know more, right now it's time for team to keep working and getting better and better.

Go Vols!

 

[bigorangepoppa]

if we start to prove we can beat 1 on 1 coverages, with any sort of regularity...it will make our running game....um...hard to deal with.

which is again, why i don't think we have to become the Dan Marion led Miami Dolphins.

we just have to be able to take advantage of those match ups....and we will get them.

I remember Dan Marino playing for the Dolphins, but not Marion.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

I love how we're all praising D4H for being so reasonable in a post where he said someone has "no physical limitations." &#128514;

Look in the sky! It's a bird!? It's a plane!? It's Super Dobbs! The QB without physical limitations. He has transcended beyond mortality and shred the limitations of mere men!

 

[joevol33]

I think that most teams will be forced to stack the box and we will be able to take advantage this year more than we did last year.

I agree

 

[Crazy Ivan]

You quoted him then pretty much repeated what he said. Dobbs is bad at down field passing but is good at short range passes to RBs and WRs in space that they turn into big plays. Dobbs is never going to be an accurate deep passer, if he had that potential we would have seen a lot more flashes of it over the previous 3 years. He makes his 1st and sometimes 2nd read then takes off running. No WR has put up good #s when he's played and there is a reason for that. JG will fix that in 2017, but 2016 is Dobbs year

Well, ok, but not sure how I repeated what the DC said. His quote implied that Dobbs can't throw the ball...period. I said Dobbs is merely inconsistent. He is definitely weak on attempts that are 10+ yards, but is one of the most efficient passers in the nation on 3rd and less than 10 yds.

The DC also said the key is to,force Dobbs to pass, which I thought was a "duh" statement. I would say that any DC in the history of the game would say they want to put QBs into passing situations, especially DT QBs who are typically run first QBs. I didn't think it was any great revelation.

 

[Biopsyman]

Just win

 

[volinbama256]

I think it's a relative statement. I too believe Dobbs can throw it downfield, but it's not his strength, so this particular defensive coach, and other DCs scheme to encourage him or "make him beat them" throwing downfield and try to take away Josh's other strengths. Conversely, a guy like Chad Kelly is just the opposite....he's a guy who's very good throwing the ball vertically so you scheme him differently to keep him from hurting you over the top. I know this is likely a very obvious statement/point to most on here, sorry if this post elicits a "duh" response.

Maybe this year our staff will finally realize he needs the 5-10 yard slants to keep the D honest and no throws over 15-20 yds.... no more bombs down the sidelines.... he should be good to go if they stick to his strengths and don't push the envelope of his comfort zone