SuperDave
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Why would you think I consider that a problem? I don't. Just pointing out that under InVOLuntary's stated premise, certain people donate because their religion tells them to, not necessarily because they want to.
This is the problem.. you guys think if christians aren't there to do it... it wont happen.. which is ridiculous.
Take christian generosity out of the mix... nothing can fill that void but only christians. Take that away and guess what.. others would do it.
...but being generous from fear of punishment or for a reward in the afterlife isn't all that noble. But anyway.. take that away and for some reason you guys think that's the end of it.
If you make $1000 a month, you can afford so many groceries. If you then began making $500 a month, you could afford less. If you took Christian generosity out of the mix, there would be much less total global charity available, thus millions of people would suffer from it.
He never said everyone would suffer from the removal of Christian charity (by hinting that Christians are the only source of charity). He said that those who are currently benefiting from Christian charity would suffer from the removal of such charity.
I'll say it again, your abilities toward more complex reasoning is sometimes astounding.
Then by all means, let's see these hypothetical people do it. There is no lack of need in the world. Call all of these generous people that are actually generous, but not really actively generous, and have them add to the support.
You show a tremendous lack of familiarity with the faith that you like to mock, and the people that you speak freely about.
I won't speak for all Christians, but I will speak for myself and the majority that I know. We are charitable, mainly because we have experienced Christ's love and want to express it. We do it because Christ gave us the great commandment to love others as He has loved us. We do it so that our Father in Heaven may be glorified.
We have no fear of Hell, nor fear that we won't make it to Heaven, since we escaped Hell based on Christ's finished work, and we'll be in Heaven because He's prepared our place there. Nothing I've ever done will get me to heaven, Praise my Savior.
I am saved by grace through faith, not of works; it is a free gift from God lest I boast.
You know... With just a little humility and an a bit of faith, all this could be yours, my friend...
This is the problem.. you guys think if christians aren't there to do it... it wont happen.. which is ridiculous.
Take christian generosity out of the mix.. but being generous from fear of punishment or for a reward in the afterlife isn't all that noble. But anyway.. take that away and for some reason you guys think that's the end of it.. nothing can fill that void but only christians. Take that away and guess what.. others would do it.
I've actually read the bible and studied it.. all of it.
As a kid and teenager.. yeah I believed.. even into my 20's but then I took the bible's advice.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
This is the problem.. you guys think if christians aren't there to do it... it wont happen.. which is ridiculous.
Take christian generosity out of the mix.. but being generous from fear of punishment or for a reward in the afterlife isn't all that noble. But anyway.. take that away and for some reason you guys think that's the end of it.. nothing can fill that void but only christians. Take that away and guess what.. others would do it.
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