Only one meaningful achievement left for this team

#51
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volbound1700 said:
2025 Tennessee has failed to do many things:

End streak with Georgia
End losing streak in Tuscaloosa
Make playoff and or Atlanta

Only one meaningful goal left, win in Gainesville and end that streak. Heupel should already start coaching for that game because New Mexico doesn't mater.
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It would matter if we lost to New Mexico State. I'm not saying we will, because I think we'll win that one handily. Just saying that if we did lose that game, it would matter.
 
#52
#52
C-south said:
Lol. I forgot you’re the “know it all” that knows absolutely zero about me or anything else. This is the peak of your contributions. I know truth hurts and you’ll have to respond but didn’t have to to begin with.
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You're the one who made the crazy claims and then spout "reality". Can't make that kind of BS up. I just stated reality. Sorry
 
#53
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volbound1700 said:
2025 Tennessee has failed to do many things:

End streak with Georgia
End losing streak in Tuscaloosa
Make playoff and or Atlanta

Only one meaningful goal left, win in Gainesville and end that streak. Heupel should already start coaching for that game because New Mexico doesn't mater.
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New Mexico won’t matter until it’s overlooked and winds up being a loss.

I’m thankful Heupel is in charge of coaching the team, and not some of our posters.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
New Mexico won’t matter until it’s overlooked and winds up being a loss.

I’m thankful Heupel is in charge of coaching the team, and not some of our posters.
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He choked against Florida in 2023. Kirby Smart stated he was preparing for Tennessee a month before we played them in 2022. I think we can focus on Florida, it is a more meaningful game.

Don't forget that Heupel and Tennessee liad that ugly, unacceptable egg in swamp in 2023.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Neither. Because:

a. There is no schedule. It's not an assembly line, logical and predictable. It's 105 testosterone-driven young men being held together by an over-worked, sleep-deprived coaching staff and whatever team chemistry they've developed. It is an equation built on scores of assumptions that is partially erased and re-written every off-season. It's a butterfly flapping its wings over the Andes causing a hurricane 4 months later in the North Atlantic.

b. 2022 was not a fluke. It was a good season. We'll have plenty of those with Josh Heupel as our head coach. We'll have disappointments at times, too. Anything from 8-4 to 12-0 can happen, any season, from here on out. That's just the chaotic nature of college football.*



* And for the trolls and negative Nancies saying "oh, but look at Cignetti at Indiana, he's on a schedule going up and up," I offer you a few exhibits: first, pre-season Illinois. They were supposed to be, in August, what Indiana is now ... and second, 2022 TCU. Remember them? The darlings. Sonny Dykes had them "ahead of schedule and doing miraculous things." Until they went 5-7 the following year. No one talked about them after that.

Next year Cignetti and the Hoosiers could absolutely go 5-7. Or 7-5. And no one will really be surprised. Because that's the chaos of college football.

The rare programs that sustain a very high level of success (like Georgia under Kirby Smart) tend to start with a very stable foundation (like Mark Richt's ten (TEN) 10+ win seasons over the 15 years before Kirby took charge. Or Ohio State's fourteen (FOURTEEN) 10+ win seasons in 18 years under Jim Tressell and Urban Meyer before Ryan Day took charge.

We want to be at that level again. We want to get back there. But that isn't a fast process. And there are bumps and bruises along the way getting there. Especially if a cabal of idiots keeps calling for the coach's head every time we hit those bumps.

Go Vols!
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While agree with moth of t it at, college ball has evolved so expectations have also. A rebuild is no longer truly a rebuild. Coaches no longer have 5 years to rebuild. Given NIL, teams nearly “rebuild” yearly.

We had some generational talent in 22. That gave lots of people the idea and heup was a mastermind. Maybe he is. But it’s much easier to look that way with the athletes we had
 
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Voluble2 said:
Definitely more potential downside left in the season than upside. It will be interesting to see how players respond to that in the NIL era.

The most maddening thing is that Vandy and us have reversed roles. We will be playing the spoiler and they will be the favorite when they come to town. No excuse for that in the 5th year of a rebuilding effort and given the money we spend compared to them.

The OK game was just a flat out brutal loss that should not have happened.
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You cold say the same thing about the Georgia game and the bama game. They should not have happened. WE play like a young team. Too many mistakes.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
While agree with moth of t it at, college ball has evolved so expectations have also. A rebuild is no longer truly a rebuild. Coaches no longer have 5 years to rebuild. Given NIL, teams nearly “rebuild” yearly.

We had some generational talent in 22. That gave lots of people the idea and heup was a mastermind. Maybe he is. But it’s much easier to look that way with the athletes we had
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We had adequate talent, nowhere near generational talent. We had some talent on offense that worked perfectly for the system. The only guys on that offense playing much on Sundays are a couple of OL and Tillman when he is healthy, and Tillman was out most of that year.
 
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West Vol said:
A pendulum, by definition, the greater it swings in one direction, the greater the counter swing. So, we should be stoked if we have an 8 loss season, as we’d be looking at a playoff run the next year. Progress forward in football doesn’t result in greater backward pressure. It’s the opposite. The further ahead you get, the less likely you are to have a terrible season. Take the 2021 team and have them play as sloppy as this team has and it would have been a really, really bad season. We’ve probably underachieved this season, but because Heupel has elevated the program, we aren’t looking at a Dooley record.
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If you're going to try to get into an ideological debate with me and base your counter arguments on your viewpoint of my statement despite the fact your comment is not true based on the philosophical ideology in which you just stated. So let me ask you is a pendulum still a pendulum if it is stuck at it's highest point in temporary perpetuity? But sticking to what you said..

I asked AI: "Is a pendulum still a pendulum if it fails to fall back to it's previous point by being stopped short."

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In other words, nothing in life is a perfect pendulum. I never stated a perfect pendulum. I was using it as an ideological example and even stated coaches ability being the outside factor of that said pendulum.

Thank you for the off week philological debate. I'm glad this bachelors is getting some kind of use currently, lol.
 
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volbound1700 said:
He choked against Florida in 2023. Kirby Smart stated he was preparing for Tennessee a month before we played them in 2022. I think we can focus on Florida, it is a more meaningful game.

Don't forget that Heupel and Tennessee liad that ugly, unacceptable egg in swamp in 2023.
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Again…thankful Heupel is coach, and not some of our “fans”.
 
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#64
The top 25 in strength of schedule tells me who we are competing against in SEC, and just how weak some team schedules keep their rank higher. Mighty OS is ranked below ND. Go figure..
Rating High Low Last
1Alabama (7-1)16.11211
2Florida (3-5)15.42765
3Indiana (9-0)14.63684
4Georgia (7-1)14.31923
5Notre Dame (6-2)13.71382
6Ohio St (8-0)13.72187
7Texas A&M (8-0)13.56696
8Texas (7-2)13.51208
9Miami (6-2)12.524010
10LSU (5-3)12.422411
11Oregon (7-1)12.467113
12Illinois (6-3)12.01012212
13Oklahoma (7-2)11.7108918
14South Carolina (3-6)11.7146220
15Auburn (4-5)11.42299
16USC (7-2)11.4129015
17Mississippi (8-1)11.2107014
18Tennessee (6-3)11.1103419
19Vanderbilt (7-2)11.01911524
20Kentucky (3-5)10.5125226
21Utah (7-2)10.3217122
22Arkansas (2-7)10.21611917
23Penn St (3-5)10.239732
24Texas Tech (8-1)10.01611227
25Michigan (7-2)9.928016
 
#65
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Hairy Vols said:
If you're going to try to get into an ideological debate with me and base your counter arguments on your viewpoint of my statement despite the fact your comment is not true based on the philosophical ideology in which you just stated. So let me ask you is a pendulum still a pendulum if it is stuck at it's highest point in temporary perpetuity? But sticking to what you said..

I asked AI: "Is a pendulum still a pendulum if it fails to fall back to it's previous point by being stopped short."

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In other words, nothing in life is a perfect pendulum. I never stated a perfect pendulum. I was using it as an ideological example and even stated coaches ability being the outside factor of that said pendulum.

Thank you for the off week philological debate. I'm glad this bachelors is getting some kind of use currently, lol.
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It’s still a pendulum, but to say to think of something as a pendulum because it moves back and forth in a way that isn’t in any way like a pendulum moves isn’t really how we do metaphors.

For the ebb and flow of success to have a pendulum-like movement, Heupel would have to have really crashed and burned in 2023, like a 1 or 2 win season.
 
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VolCalls said:
McAfee just said on Gameday “in year two, Mike Elko has A&M ahead of schedule” with the rebuild.

Heupel had us in the same spot in his second season: undefeated after eight games and ranked in the top 3.

Does that mean we’re now behind schedule, or that 2022 was a fluke?
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Time will tell, I suppose. Elko could go the way of CJH and fall off in years 3, 4 & 5. Or he could go the way of Kirby Smart and start winning championships. Kirby played for a natty in his 2nd season but didn't win one until his 6th year. He won some SEC titles in between. If I had to guess, I'd say Tennessee has fallen behind schedule. Or perhaps this is just what Tennessee will be now, losing 3 a year. If so, we are right on schedule.
 
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PC Jr. said:
Right now, UF looks like a bad matchup for the Vols. Couple that with a hostile crowd (they will show up) and the staff’s SEC road struggles … I don’t think the Vols get it done. Happy to eat crow if they do, but it unlikely. If they lose, Volnation is going to get hostile. Thats’s life in year 5 for this staff.
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Bet UF gets the night game too. Notice how UGA got the noon kick at Miss st. We always get f’d bc no one respect Heupel
 
#68
#68
ALLVOL 4LIFE said:
Florida ALWAYS has talented athletes all over the field! Plus they hate us, and the feeling is mutual, and they will be out to ruin our season. Because that game really will be the difference on many feelings for the way this team is viewed.
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Ruin what season? Our chance at the Tax slayer bowl? They’ll beat us bc they always do. Just like us with the Cats
 
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#69
T-for-Tennessee said:
Time will tell, I suppose. Elko could go the way of CJH and fall off in years 3, 4 & 5. Or he could go the way of Kirby Smart and start winning championships. Kirby played for a natty in his 2nd season but didn't win one until his 6th year. He won some SEC titles in between. If I had to guess, I'd say Tennessee has fallen behind schedule. Or perhaps this is just what Tennessee will be now, losing 3 a year. If so, we are right on schedule.
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Well the recruiting is getting better every year so we really haven't fallen behind schedule.
 
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volbound1700 said:
2025 Tennessee has failed to do many things:

End streak with Georgia
End losing streak in Tuscaloosa
Make playoff and or Atlanta

Only one meaningful goal left, win in Gainesville and end that streak. Heupel should already start coaching for that game because New Mexico doesn't mater.
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Sounds line you are a terribly negative person. This has been a very successful season. This team came in with many calling for 6 losses or more. They absolutely should've beaten Georgia. They messed that one up and paid the price. The Alabama game got away from them, but that's a top 4 team in the nation. Oklahoma was the only blip on the radar. Tennessee is 14 points better than them on 90% of the days.

Crap happens man. Only 1 team wins it all. The amount of actual production that left this team last year is staggering. Yet they are a few plays away from being a 1 loss team.

Everyone would prefer to be in Atalanta.

I will remember this season as a success up to this point. They just need to go 3-0 the rest of the way and finish it off.

9-3 is a great year, under the circumstances.
 
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West Vol said:
It’s still a pendulum, but to say to think of something as a pendulum because it moves back and forth in a way that isn’t in any way like a pendulum moves isn’t really how we do metaphors.

For the ebb and flow of success to have a pendulum-like movement, Heupel would have to have really crashed and burned in 2023, like a 1 or 2 win season.
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No he wouldn’t have because external forces slowed down the rock back of the pendulum once Milton took over. You’re implying a pendulum must always go back and forth and pretending it exists in a vacuum. Fact is there will always be outside forces to effect the flow of a pendulum. A pendulum in reality is different than the “idea of a pendulum” that you are referencing.
 
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volbound1700 said:
2025 Tennessee has failed to do many things:

End streak with Georgia
End losing streak in Tuscaloosa
Make playoff and or Atlanta

Only one meaningful goal left, win in Gainesville and end that streak. Heupel should already start coaching for that game because New Mexico doesn't mater.
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Ending the season 10-3 with a decent bowl game is very meaningful. A win against Vandy is especially meaningful if Vandy is still ranked. Not looking so good against Auburn. A dub in FL is way up there too, but we need the hat trick for any of them to be a reality and/or have actual real meaning.
 
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Hairy Vols said:
No he wouldn’t have because external forces slowed down the rock back of the pendulum once Milton took over. You’re implying a pendulum must always go back and forth and pretending it exists in a vacuum. Fact is there will always be outside forces to effect the flow of a pendulum. A pendulum in reality is different than the “idea of a pendulum” that you are referencing.
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A pendulum cannot go left, right, and then left again without first going to the midpoint and then going further right. That is the nature of a pendulum. You’re describing something that isn’t functioning as a pendulum.

If you were looking at a pendulum’s path as the bottom half of a clock face, you’re describing a pendulum that drops from 3, stops at 5, bounces up to 4, goes back to 5, and then back to 3. That’s not a pendulum movement.

The whole pendulum effect is that the harder you push us into the win column, the harder the force is going to be pushing you back into losses. Football programs build pretty much the opposite way. The more momentum you get going toward nine wins, the easier it is to keep winning nine.
 
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